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Kz-SaKai
01-25-2007, 03:55 PM
Turkey Shot on excellent zekes_wildcats server, made by |Kz| Squadron.

|Kz|zekes_wildcats video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Om0JTgCCs)

HAVE FUN http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Tenno Heika Banzaο.

VW-IceFire
01-25-2007, 04:42 PM
I like it...but it needs a change of music. I love how it starts off...it has a nice feel to it and then...STARWARS. Everyone knows that theme so well that it hurts what you're trying to do I think.

The visuals are great...love the names attached...its a great promotion. Drop Star Wars and use something else...even another John Williams is fine but something less known. Then it'll be great. Love the semi-gun camera feel to it. Lots of shooting, some great scenes over the water with the splashes. The whole thing showcases the action on the server as well as some of the great visuals this game series can give.

Waldo.Pepper
01-25-2007, 11:36 PM
I wouldn't know never been online at z vs w. But it looks like the Wildcats are not very competitive. Is this accurate?

furyan65
01-26-2007, 12:34 AM
Hmmmm looks ok but they 'pop' too soon ah. I mean in real life vids they rolled heaps and smoked up hardly ever blowing up all over like that especially the US planes.. but that's about the game I guess. Why were the US planes just flying in a straight line? No wonder they were sitting ducks.

Philipscdrw
01-26-2007, 06:15 AM
Yeah, it's like someone's poured Araldite into every F4F's control column hinge...

Use of the Warner Brothers theme at the end was quite strange too, but I liked it!

Kz-SaKai
01-26-2007, 07:08 AM
thx a lot for comments http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif i notice for next video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WB_Outlaw
01-26-2007, 07:23 AM
A long time ago, in this galaxy, I expressed my hate for the bogus explosions and break-ups of aircraft in the movie makers forum and, for all intents and purposes, was told by many that I was an idiot b/c people want explosions and fireballs. At least I know now that I'm not that alone.

--Outlaw.

Tater-SW-
01-26-2007, 07:56 AM
For movies I agree with you. COncentrating on explosions actually kills the realism. If I were making it, I'd show almosty nothing but smoking, flaming death spirals. I'm not sure I'd let a single fuselage break end up any place but the cutting room floor.

Waldo, the F4Fs are at a disadvantage under many situations for them online. That said, online a group of F4Fs is a dangerous thing indeed. A6Ms engage, but many times it results in a pyrrhic victory for them. I frequently get bumped off by F4Fs---I'd rather be flying F4Fs, actually, but I switch sides to balance the server, and I almost never get to fly the plane I love most of all, the F4F.

It beeing an online game, the straight and level targets are somethign you never see offline---they got BOUNCED. Like 80% of all RL kills (and 0% of offline PF kills), they likely never saw what killed them.

hi_stik
01-26-2007, 08:20 AM
furyan, don't be fooled by this video. All these guys did was cull thousands of hours of game tracks to find the few times where they got lucky kills. The reality is, the KZ guys get shot down in droves.

As for the game-video itself, it's boring. There's no setup at all, nor any form of storyline that would entertain anyone but themselves.

it's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and bad videomaking, all in a nice neat package

Tromplamort
01-26-2007, 10:19 AM
Hi_stik are you one of the targets on this movie? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Kz-SaKai
01-26-2007, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by hi_stik:
furyan, don't be fooled by this video. All these guys did was cull thousands of hours of game tracks to find the few times where they got lucky kills. The reality is, the KZ guys get shot down in droves.

As for the game-video itself, it's boring. There's no setup at all, nor any form of storyline that would entertain anyone but themselves.

it's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and bad videomaking, all in a nice neat package


Thx for your comments. Ego of pilot who dont accept to be shot down ... Who are you in the video ? lol.

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-26-2007, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I wouldn't know never been online at z vs w. But it looks like the Wildcats are not very competitive. Is this accurate?

Not for me. I fly the F4F against Zekes on that server regularly with excellent (relatively speaking) results. I especially like the Midway and Wake Island maps for the F4F. Even the F2A is excellent if flown properly.


As far as the film is concerned, it seems...erm...a bit self-serving to simply show your victories and subtitle them all with your victims. A bit of bad form really.

I appreciate ANY effort to do something like this, but there was no sense of drama, buildup, or even competitiveness even though I know better. I know a few of those "victims' and know they are good pilots that don't get laced as easily as you seem to make it look most of the time.

Just saying...


TB

Heavy_Metal1982
01-26-2007, 02:43 PM
Thunderbolt you fly on ZvsW often? What is your screen name, I'm sure we have flown together.

mrsiCkstar
01-26-2007, 03:10 PM
I liked the video a lot... like icefire said it's nice promotion for the server... it doesn't need a friggin story or a build up... it's just an action montage showing some nice kills.

I love the server... I spend most of my online time there... I get shot down a lot, but every once in a while I survive and maybe even score a kill http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif love it.

Kz-SaKai
01-26-2007, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I like it...but it needs a change of music.

We tested lots of music (classical, movie), we needed something like a "military march" lots of rythm, fast .... And one day one Kz proposed to use the THEME of "DARK SIDE" with the darth vader voice, we listened to the IMPERIAL MARCH and the rythm was totally good for this type of video, the "edit" was done following this music then now it cant be changed easily !!

For next video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif we ll try to use better music, if u got idea .... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

THX A LOT.

VFS-214_Hawk
01-30-2007, 03:12 PM
Great video. Looks like the Zero's cannons are very deadly but yet the .50 cals don't do so good.

Also, I did not know external views were available in that server!

I did see a pic of a wildcat with a single cannon round in it on the net somewhere. I can imagine that a few hits certainly can be deadly!

Flew in there last night, made two sorties and made two deadstick landings on Ford Island in a P-40!!!

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-30-2007, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I wouldn't know never been online at z vs w. But it looks like the Wildcats are not very competitive. Is this accurate?

Not when Im flying one. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif You can check their stat page to answer your question though.

http://warbirdsofprey.org/stats_zekes/

ShaK.
01-30-2007, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by hi_stik:
furyan, don't be fooled by this video. All these guys did was cull thousands of hours of game tracks to find the few times where they got lucky kills. The reality is, the KZ guys get shot down in droves.

As for the game-video itself, it's boring. There's no setup at all, nor any form of storyline that would entertain anyone but themselves.

it's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and bad videomaking, all in a nice neat package

I agree.
And no I'm not in that video. I'm ShaK on HL.

The end of your video guys should of showed your deaths. Even if it was 10 shots or so, speeded up, of you going down to add some sportsmanship and balance

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-30-2007, 04:15 PM
Looks like a propaganda recruiting tool to me. LOL!

Kz-SaKai
01-30-2007, 04:15 PM
LOL HavoK, sure !!! lol

Ok ill propose this idea to group for the PART 2 ShaK !!

Thx.

striker-85
01-30-2007, 04:24 PM
Overall I liked the film http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. But I fly on the ZvW server quite a bit and can definately say that the movie is not an actual representation of the flying on there. The F4Fs give as good as they get and someone with the clips, time, and talent could make a similiar movie of the F4F's owning.

This is just a collection of kills from the |Kz| guys edited down to a short movie. Still I found it fun to watch, even though they didn't include a clip of me getting shot up.

And no, external views are not enabled on the server, this is just camera placement during movie editing.

Kz-SaKai
01-30-2007, 04:28 PM
All kills you see in video were made in december 2006 and january 2007, only the best "pictures" have been keep for video.

The part 2 (already achieved at 15%) will be done with kills between jan 15th and jan 31, with bombing, formation and more general fights on zeke server !!

Marcel_Albert
01-30-2007, 06:54 PM
Funny video for the music http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Maybe do the same video but with a Corsair or Mustang and you'll have a standing ovation .. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

joke aside , good video to advert the game the "gun cam " effect is good , in black and white , it would have been nicer , more motions with "F3" key (when you see the planes fly from outside , it's dramatic ) would have been better too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WOLFMondo
01-31-2007, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I wouldn't know never been online at z vs w. But it looks like the Wildcats are not very competitive. Is this accurate?

You is wrong be sure! The F4F is just like it really was, not as good as the Zero but its faster and has plenty of ammo so is a good little plane, just got to be careful in it. The F6F excels though and the maps where the P38J or Mosquito are available are really good fun. Nothing beats the mossie at Betty hunting!!

KIMURA
01-31-2007, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by hi_stik:
furyan, don't be fooled by this video. All these guys did was cull thousands of hours of game tracks to find the few times where they got lucky kills. The reality is, the KZ guys get shot down in droves.
As for the game-video itself, it's boring. There's no setup at all, nor any form of storyline that would entertain anyone but themselves.
it's poor form, poor sportsmanship, and bad videomaking, all in a nice neat package

my impression is that the KZ*- guys are not worser or better than any other pilots of any other Squad. So "get shot down in droves" seems more a simple provocation by you – hi_stik – than a proven fact.

Kz-SaKai
01-31-2007, 04:39 AM
Thx Kimura but let him say what he wants its not a problem for us. We dont care of all the bad words. We just made this video for FUN and because we apreciate the zeke_wildcat server. Thats all...

Albert we tried the F3 key but we dont like this motion. And not to use BLACK&WHITE is a choice, we tried but the render is not really good, too dark ....
About Corsair and mustang video we let that job to red pilots, lots of blue and lots all Kz are shot every day on server then i think its easy to do http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif !! Moreover |Kz| only fly japanese side on zeke_wildcat.

JarheadEd
01-31-2007, 08:14 AM
Hey!
I made it in!
Not like ME being shot up on Zekes vs Wildcats is
anything new. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I do have a quick question. The phrase at the end of the video, "Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh" May I have a translation of that? I see what appears to be "Training" and "Fool" but what is the correct phrase? I can't seem to find a good translater that will put it into english, and the language identifiers say its Swahilli.

Thanks

whiteladder
01-31-2007, 08:40 AM
VFS-214_Hawk posted


Also, I did not know external views were available in that server!

It doesn`t the people who made the video have recorded tracks of there online play, when you play the tracks back later you can then goto the external view.

Most movies are made in this way, then the track can be play at the slowest speed, which allows the video quality settings to be set to maximum without any FPS issues.

Kz-SaKai
01-31-2007, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by JarheadEd:
The phrase at the end of the video, "Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh" May I have a translation of that?

No comment. lol. Secret.

Waldo.Pepper
01-31-2007, 10:03 AM
Thanks everyone. I did not think it was too representative of the action on ZvsW. I may have to make some time and try it out for myself.

About
Originally posted by JarheadEd:
The phrase at the end of the video, "Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh" May I have a translation of that?

No comment. lol. Secret.

I think that 'ol Sakai may be a little shiri ga aoi. So we must forgive him and give him a little slack. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JarheadEd
01-31-2007, 10:06 AM
Why won't you comment on it?

Is it a disparaging remark?

Whats the harm in telling us about it?

Waldo.Pepper
01-31-2007, 10:09 AM
Is it a disparaging remark?

I believe that it is something like, Training always conquers. Training conquers all! It seems to advocate training, practice and experience. I believe that this is the jist of the phrase.

BillyTheKid_22
01-31-2007, 10:28 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Great video!!!

JarheadEd
01-31-2007, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Is it a disparaging remark?

I believe that it is something like, Training always conquers. Training conquers all! It seems to advocate training, practice and experience. I believe that this is the jist of the phrase. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK. Since my very limited Japanese hasn't been used since the '80s, I was't too sure where he was going with Bakayaroh. I couldn't quite remember the spelling of the word "Bakayar----something."

meaning "stupid a - - " IIRC

But, If that's what they're saying. (The training always conquers) I have to agree with them on that.

Kz-SaKai
01-31-2007, 12:33 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/typing.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-31-2007, 04:01 PM
Oleg- "Zeke vs Wildcat server is best...be sure"

KIMURA
02-01-2007, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Kz-SaKai:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JarheadEd:
The phrase at the end of the video, "Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh" May I have a translation of that?

No comment. lol. Secret. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh means something like Teaching some lessons to those stupid ***/bastards!</span> Bakayaroh is a very strong, negative word in Japanese language and far off anything that is related to respect for others/contrahents.


To me a strange slogan for 2 online units, especially if that movie is shown to the public.

VW-IceFire
02-01-2007, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Kz-SaKai:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
I like it...but it needs a change of music.

We tested lots of music (classical, movie), we needed something like a "military march" lots of rythm, fast .... And one day one Kz proposed to use the THEME of "DARK SIDE" with the darth vader voice, we listened to the IMPERIAL MARCH and the rythm was totally good for this type of video, the "edit" was done following this music then now it cant be changed easily !!

For next video http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif we ll try to use better music, if u got idea .... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

THX A LOT. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
As long as you have the original project files in whatever software you did it with, a music edit is pretty easy. But that aside, I think something less recognizable is a surefire winner. Many machinema style movie makers such as yourself tend to use clips from Hans Zimmer soundtracks. Those work well most of the time. There are other more obscure sources as well that tend to work.

You may want to try other styles where the percussion is the centerpiece and other instruments are backed off significantly.

Overall a great montage but as I said before...it would do well to feel less star wars like. I think it draws the wrong analogy and creates the wrong feel. Just my critique...overall like the work quite a bit.

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 04:41 AM
Thx a lot ICEFIRE. Part 1 is done now and we're working on part 2.



We already found the music for part 2, its totally different and in my opinion this new video will be 10 times better than part 1. First because the music is very beautifull and second because the video will be not only a turkey shoot footage. The type of the video edit and music is done in memory of a great Director !!

JarheadEd
02-02-2007, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by KIMURA:

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh means something like Teaching some lessons to those stupid ***/bastards!</span> Bakayaroh is a very strong, negative word in Japanese language and far off anything that is related to respect for others/contrahents.

To me a strange slogan for 2 online units, especially if that movie is shown to the public.

Thanks Kimura. That's what I thought it meant, but I was too unsure to come out and say it. I've had it used on me before while in Japan at Iwakuni, but that was from an unfortunate Soba spilling incident. Rapid meal replacement, beer, and a lot of apologies made it all better.

The use of it in this video was uncalled for. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 08:42 AM
its certainly not a good translation.

I wouldnt trust in "translator" begining their phrase with "means something like" ...

JarheadEd
02-02-2007, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by Kz-SaKai:
its certainly not a good translation.

I wouldnt trust in "translator" begining their phrase with "means something like" ...

Could you just answer the original question then?

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 09:54 AM
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shiru mono wa iwazu, iu mono wa shirazu

striker-85
02-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by Kz-SaKai:
I wouldnt trust in "translator" begining their phrase with "means something like" ...


I read and write Japanese (haven't spoken in a long time) and I would start off with "means something like" also because you are obviously a non native speaker and have put together at best a hacked attempt at Japanese.

The parts that are "translatable" are basically saying "training for idiots", in this case the Japanese word for idiot being a much harsher and negative connotation than the English word.

Hey if you are going to put something like that out there in the public domain then at least have the balls to admit it, pretty chickens**t to hide behind it's a "secret".

I thought you had put this video together in good spirit and I had defended it on ZvsW but now I realize I'm the bakayaro and your squad is just trying to make fools of the rest of us.

I guess everyone on ZvsW was right, you guys are tools... or to put it in Japanese for you: kutabare!

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 10:48 AM
"training for idiots" ... wrong. A native Japanese Kz pilot wrote this phrase. Striker you just saying bull**** !! Look the key of that "secret" lol :

Its means : "you need more training idiot" and this phrase is for Kz pilots !! We (Kz) need more training and that's why we laught a lot about us (Kz) puting this phrase. Its not about victims (pictures dont need phrase) Its a joke about Kz pilots. lol.

Thats the real meaning of the phrase http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif now all is clear.

striker-85
02-02-2007, 11:04 AM
Nice try but we are not that stupid...

it would make sense if it was a video of KZ being shot up, but considering you have taken a montage of your victories don't expect us to be stupid enough to believe that http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 11:11 AM
Its not a try, we never try we do ! Its just Truth.
Sorry if you refuse to accept it, now its not our problem.
If we wanted to laugh about victims we would use an english phrase and not japanese !! But i repeat every pilot is everyday a victim of another pilot on ZvW, It would be completly idiot to use this phrase for victim, in that sense it would be a big lack of respect !!

I explained the sense for us (Kz). its a joke made by Kz for Kz only (thats why we called that a "secret")

Its simple and clear.

F19_Orheim
02-02-2007, 12:38 PM
Hmm really I don't know what to say other than... there are quite many cultural differences among us all.

about the Japanese translation.. if correct, then I guess it is a bit arrogant, but then again, displaying the victims' names is kind of arrogant as well so I guess you chose the correct phrase anyway.... or maybe - as I said - it is just a cultural thing.
For me anyway it's arrogant.

KIMURA
02-02-2007, 12:40 PM
Kz nice tries of excuse but I trained some 17 years of Karate-Ryu and "learned" the one or the other word of Japanese, just because I had to do with Japanese people. That phrase at the end of the vid is far from being positive and it's adressed to the guys U shot down. I 'm not sure I already read it in the chat line at the ZvsWcat server after kills were made. If you put that sentence into the chat line after doing a kill then it's absolutely clear what it means. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif

BTW "like or means like" is a common beginning of translation, because U CAN NOT translate 1:1 from on language to the other. Even from French to German U can't take over the whole meaning of sentences.

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 01:29 PM
If the phrase in video was adressed to pilot we shot down, we would say it without problem because we dont care, but its not the case.



About Kz, i think you forget something, we always say what we think. I dont know why lie ... About online server sometimes Kz use "Kunren shinaose" each other when they miss target, when wingman is shot down and few pilots when they shoot a enemy !!
You got "17 years of Karate-Ryu" its good !! good for health ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I already explained the meaning for Kz pilots. "Kunren Shinaose Bakayaroh" is adressed to Kz pilot with the start of the amusing "warner bros music" !!

+ That's all Folks +

KIMURA
02-02-2007, 03:26 PM
Sakai handle it like U wish, but keep in mind as long as U are flying on a server U fly with people from all around the world and share time with them.
Always telling the own opinion to others whithout find accurate words can lead to misunderstanding and anger. <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">C'est le ton qui fait la musique</span>. To think the world has to know what your're think about others has rather to do with bumpkin behaviour than with wisdom. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

edit: I'm still in doubt that saying is adressed to Kz* pilots themself, otherwise you would not hide the meaning of the saying when u were asked by someone above. Bakayaroh is never adressed to the one who says that word. Most people here are not that stupid as U think. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Kz-SaKai
02-02-2007, 03:48 PM
Im totally agree with you Kimura, we dont want create "polemique" about this phrase, its totally adressed to Kz pilots, its was humor in the squad between Kz pilots. Moreover pilots "victim" in video are present because they're used to play on this server and because we respect them as excellent pilots.

Kz pilots are "crazy", laught anytime for anything, then dont worry about that becase they know what is RESPECT.

We didnt reveal the meaning of this phrase because its was a "private joke" just for us written exclusively in japanese for that specific reason. We got nothing bad to hide.

Si "c'est le ton qui fait la musique" comme tu le dis, ne t'inquiete donc pas car on a des musiciens virtuoses chez nous. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PS : Its my last message about this subject. I explained now its enough, we circle...

Ojisan_Rock
02-03-2007, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Kz-SaKai:
Im totally agree with you Kimura, we dont want create "polemique" about this phrase, its totally adressed to Kz pilots, its was humor in the squad between Kz pilots. Moreover pilots "victim" in video are present because they're used to play on this server and because we respect them as excellent pilots.

Kz pilots are "crazy", laught anytime for anything, then dont worry about that becase they know what is RESPECT.

We didnt reveal the meaning of this phrase because its was a "private joke" just for us written exclusively in japanese for that specific reason. We got nothing bad to hide.

Si "c'est le ton qui fait la musique" comme tu le dis, ne t'inquiete donc pas car on a des musiciens virtuoses chez nous. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

PS : Its my last message about this subject. I explained now its enough, we circle...

Pure rubbish. You excel in nothing other then double talk. Your appreciation for the Zekes server is a farse, i can't think of a single positive post/remark, Just an over abundant of hot air from double talking air bags.

Just my opinion of course, no secret verses, nothing hiding in my words.

hi_stik
02-05-2007, 08:23 AM
that's a straight-up SPANKIN'!

Go Rock, go

J_Anonymous
02-05-2007, 12:20 PM
As one of the native Japanese speakers on this board, let me say a few words.

Depending on the context, certainly the phrase can be interpreted either way. If Kz squads are getting shotdown repeatedly, a squad leader may be chastising his incompetent subordinates by saying, " We have to re-do more trainings, idiots".

On the other hand, if Kz squad is winning in the movie, whether Kz_Sakai and his non-native Japanese-speaking comrades intended or not, I can interpret the phrase only as a derrogatory remark against victims.

I would suggest Kz's to retract that phrase from the movie. It is misleading, to say the least. Your strange signature clearly shows, to me, that you are not a native Japanese speaker (those 6 characters above "Kamikaze" are not even Japanese). But unsuspecting people might think that real Japanese people are misbehaving, and that's not fair to us.

KIMURA
02-05-2007, 12:38 PM
Anonymous, I fervently hoped that one of you native japanese speakers would join that thread and blowing away the greyish veil around that sentence. So it seems my interpretation got confirmed, thanks matey. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

@Kz*Sakai : Hitotsu regi o mamonzuro koto.......... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Kz-SaKai
02-05-2007, 03:21 PM
Hitotsu, Kimura-san, kimi ha nihongo wo benkyo shinao****a hoh ga iine, kimi no phrase imi fumei dayo , kohkakunoda : "Hitotsu rehgi wo omonzuru koto"

J_Anonymous-san anata ha nihonjin nara watashino itteiru koto ga wakaru darohkedo,watashi ha kono saigono monku ga Kz nakama deno johdan de atte, video ni uttsutteiru katagata toha kankei naito itteiru dehanaika. Hotteoite kuretamae.

arashi no mae no shizukesa.

Sayonara.

PS: Nihonjin no katagata ni Keirei!

KIMURA
02-06-2007, 03:32 AM
Kz.Sakai, sure I should know what I write and I do. "Hitotsu regi o mamonzuro koto" is one 5 main phrase of Dojo Kun written and worked out by Funakoshi. I think he did know his mother tongue Japanese as good (I think he did better) as you - and can surely write it that sentence correct.

Dojo Kun (http://www.iskf.com/dojokun.html)

XyZspineZyX
02-06-2007, 07:40 AM
Lol...I used to scream those dojo kun at the end of my shotokan classes.

For music, this would have been better:

http://sebastien.rocque.googlepages.com/Metallica-StarWarsImperialMarch.mp3

Kz-SaKai
02-06-2007, 11:09 AM
ok i notice Skunk thx. Good idea.

Kimura ... lol ... :

You said :

@Kz*Sakai : Hitotsu regi o MAMONZURO koto..........

and your link shows that phrase :


HITOTSU! REIGI O OMONZURU KOTO

and i said :


Hitotsu rehgi wo omonzuru koto
(wo rehgi=reigi, but best accent rehgi)

MAMONZURO means nothing its bull**** LOL
You just ridiculous Kimura. you d better to shut up.

Poker_4H
02-08-2007, 11:47 AM
http://www.kamikazes.fr/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=11

only fair to those listed, right Sakai ??

J_Anonymous
02-08-2007, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Kz-SaKai:
J_Anonymous-san anata ha nihonjin nara watashino itteiru koto ga wakaru darohkedo,watashi ha kono saigono monku ga Kz nakama deno johdan de atte, video ni uttsutteiru katagata toha kankei naito itteiru dehanaika. Hotteoite kuretamae.

The damage is already done, you guys already lost your reputation. That's your problem, not mine or other real Japanese people on this board. Frankly, I don't care even if you guys suffer from your own thoughtless action in the future.

However, no, I can't honor your request, I can't leave this issue at your hand and shut my mouth up.

You missed my point. You are using somebody elses language in a disguise, and insulted other folks. You are telling me that it meant to be an internal joke within your squadron. But, then why don't you do that using your own language, French? Since you showed your arrogance in the form of insult made in Japanese, and let's face it there is a lot of racism going around on-line, you gave a perfect excuse for them to insult us back. While that may not be of your concern, it is a serious issue to us, the real Japanese.

You are the one to apologyze to all those you insulted, retract your statement, and stop mumbling strange Japanese to insult others.

BTW, you told Kimura to re-learn Japanese. In case you are not aware, your Japanese prose I quoted above sounds very funny. I felt as if I were reading from an old 1960's style document written by student movement leaders. Who taught you Japanese?

Ojisan_Rock
02-09-2007, 06:57 AM
A list.......how childish is that? I pity you.

I challenged you once in 1 vs 1, but as i expected, you declined, your words were " for what reason". If Kz is so great, why not except a friendly challenge? I know why.....air bag comes to mind.
Actually, i have a track of you getting shot down by an old friend, which he shared with me to show your energy abilities, if i remember correctly it was 2 vs 1, entertaining it was. Maybe you put this in Part 2.....LMAO.

Kz-SaKai
02-09-2007, 12:42 PM
OMG you're perfect, we laugh a lot : LOL.

Go on guys, Go on.

PS : You want fresh kill of me, call 13th-Tuplanolla, he exploded me 2 times on MIDWAY Zeke server, 1h ago !! If you want video. LMAO.