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snrumph
08-16-2006, 11:34 AM
I picked up this game about 2 weeks ago. All I can say is wow! I've done about 15 patrols and finally ran into my first battleship (along with about 5 destroyers) while skulking around near Gibraltar. By then I had sunk some merchant traffic and 3 lone destroyers. (This was also my first patrol with acoustic torps.) I fired 3 torps at the battleship but the first one disabled her and the second 2 missed as a result. I snuck away and surfaced so I could load my 2 external torps. I slowly came around the other side of the battleship's last known location and was surprised to find that the escorts had left her behind immobile! (realistic?) Nonetheless, I lined up and fired my single bow torp. Then I dove underneath her and fired my single stern torp. Both torps connected but she stayed afloat. I had to end my patrol knowing that I left a disabled battleship behind and floating. Frustrating but completely exciting. Even my wife sat down to watch things unfold. What a Game!

Marriott90
08-16-2006, 11:40 AM
i have not encountered a battleship yet. I've encountered pretty much every thing else though

Celeon999
08-16-2006, 11:58 AM
Ive encountered a task force once ......but couldnt get it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

trident42
08-16-2006, 12:39 PM
I played for about 5 months and then encountered an illustrious in a task force and then a couple of weeks later a Bogue inside a convoy. I must have been really lucky.

Shahed_Kazi
08-16-2006, 01:02 PM
Sunk 2 Nelson @ Loch Ewe, 2 different partols, damaged one more. Sunk 1 George in Scapa, 1 Illustrious in Scapa.

There is a Task Force that seems to depart or pass right south of Lemrick (?) (island harbor north of Scapa). You can usually meet this task force in grid AN 21, I'm guessing (GW 1.1). I'm going to hunt for it next time I get a northern patrol.

Virtual_Adept
08-16-2006, 01:15 PM
I used to patrol with an XXI out of Bergen and used to run into a TF running along the coast of Norway (probably trying to catch subs leaving Bergen). I'd usually encounter it on the way out and then again on the way back in. Sometimes I'd engage the TF and damage the CV, but not usually enough to stop it cold.

Remember, it was late 1944.

Shahed_Kazi
08-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Thanks for the tip, it's 1940 in my game, soon 41, will keep an eye out. Would love that kill.

RitterkreuzU35
08-16-2006, 01:25 PM
Shahed I have encountered the task force in AN21 a couple of times and it was comprised exclusivly of destroyers both times, dont know if that changes at different times or not though so be cautious when you approach it

Shahed_Kazi
08-16-2006, 02:38 PM
ASW Task force. Sounds like a good fight http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Though would be nice to see a capital ship in therte would make the hit all the more insulting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thanks for the headsup. Meanwhile U-49 has been awarded a cruise to Las Palmas, doing absolutely nothing. Gibraltar on the way back sounds enticing.

Salute !

hueywolf123
08-16-2006, 03:11 PM
Snrumph, welcome aboard mate. As you can probably tell, you are now an addict. If your pc can handle the extras, why not try the greywolves mod, it is huge but so many improvements have been made on the stock SHIII.
Good luck & good hunting kaluen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Shahed_Kazi
08-16-2006, 04:43 PM
ooops Welcome Aboard !

Sorry, forgot my manners there... in such .... a .... rush... to ... get... back ... to ... my sub.. must .... use .... code.... to cut .... down .... posting ..... time....

Grey Wolves is the Hilton, I tell you that, specially if you like it a bit more real. Immersion, incredible immersion. Only I loved the original music, anyoine know how I can get it back without breaking anything ?

relcox
08-16-2006, 05:59 PM
Hello all, very happy to joining all you fellow U-Boat commanders in laying waste to allied shipping, have been enjoying the game now for 3 weeks (stopping for sleep and food when needed), transfered my IXC to the Med 3 patrols ago as I was fed up taking nearly 3 months crossing the atlantic and getting sod all renown compared to the short trips I was doing in my previous VIIB. Anyway just south of Sardinia I encountered the 1st TF that I could actually intercept and sank 2 Fiji CLs then after another couple of small merchants in stumbled into another TF in heavy fog and found myself 350m away from a George BB at 80deg, shot front 4 fish at it, all hit but it was now passing to the rear and still going, my heart was begining to pound, I had a single torp in the stern left, was lining up the shot, just as I was about to fire, it vanished into the fog, fired anyway as the solution was only 1 second old, waited, BOOM!!!! quickly patted the crew on the back and quietly slipped off into the deep, love it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif (Patrol 24,Jan 1943)

prj57
08-16-2006, 06:28 PM
Installed GW no idea which version though...

It took some time and 2GB making me delete old **** to free up some memory...

Found a Nelson in Scapa Flow on Patrol 1 Sep 8 1939, unfortunatelly took 3 mines on the way in and lost the front torpedo section http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

Shot him twice with the two at the aft section, one in the back and one in slightly infront of the first shot, he didn't move....

A was forced to make my way back to base empty handed

Shahed_Kazi
08-16-2006, 06:41 PM
I've been to Scapa twice, CV in one and, BB+CL in the next. In my view the stright in approach can work, did it the first time, but far better is the approach from the Western side (side to the Atlantic). There are 2 DD patrols there, 1 far south and 1 right in your path, but it's a large open area, extremely easy to avoid this patrol. 2 PT Boat patrols in shallow water and the rest of the way in is clear.

I have a screenshot on my map with all the patrols marked with patrol radii. You want it ? Say, and I can post it.

You got in there, that's a good job in itself. You also hit the BB and got out which again deserves commendation.

jlpilkey
08-16-2006, 11:40 PM
i got my first battle ship today a nelson in loch ewe only had 3 torps left in the bow when i saw it got into position and fired she went down with some time. after i made it out of loch ewe i went to grid AM2 and bagged a convoy with my last 4 torps 3 stern and 1 reserve in the bow and a heck of a lot deck gun ammo. this was my 3rd patrol and also my 100k patrol. ohh and now that i think about it how do i get in the 100k club.

Gmuno
08-17-2006, 12:14 AM
The biggest TF i've encountered so far, consisted of 2 Revenge, 1 Fiji and 6 DDs. The Fiji an all the C-Class DDs got away, but i got the BBs, 1 J-Class and 1 Tribal. The northern route to Loch Ewe and the area around Gibraltar are always nice to hang out for heavies.

doug.d
08-17-2006, 12:28 AM
Intercepted and sunk these 3 battleships of a task force heading due west out of Scapa Flow. 100K in a single attack. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/TF2.jpg

Position: 100km West of Scapa Flow entrance
Date: July 27 1940
Time: 05h00
Speed: 21 Kts
Formation: In line astern, 1 lead destroyer, 4 destroyers to the rear.
Weather: Clear
Sea: Like a duckpond
Game: Stock SH3

Be interested to know if anyone finds it again.

relcox
08-17-2006, 02:12 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by doug.d:
Intercepted and sunk these 3 battleships of a task force heading due west out of Scapa Flow. 100K in a single attack. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

OK, tell me how you did that with only 5 torps ready and none of them escaping out of range before you reloaded? that must have been fun!

doug.d
08-17-2006, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by relcox:
OK, tell me how you did that with only 5 torps ready and none of them escaping out of range before you reloaded? that must have been fun!
Full attack report HERE (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/9481003653?r=9481003653#9481003653)
Sorry, deleted most of the pics during photobucket cleanup.

relcox
08-17-2006, 02:42 AM
Full attack report

Shame the picture were gone, that is..I'm lost for words http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Shahed_Kazi
08-17-2006, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by doug.d:
Intercepted and sunk these 3 battleships of a task force heading due west out of Scapa Flow. 100K in a single attack. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Doug_Dread/TF2.jpg

Position: 100km West of Scapa Flow entrance
Date: July 27 1940
Time: 05h00
Speed: 21 Kts
Formation: In line astern, 1 lead destroyer, 4 destroyers to the rear.
Weather: Clear
Sea: Like a duckpond
Game: Stock SH3

Be interested to know if anyone finds it again.


EISH ! Nice job bru !

Danelov
08-17-2006, 09:48 AM
Sunk 2 Nelson @ Loch Ewe, 2 different partols, damaged one more.

Umm, something is wrong here,there were only two Nelson type(Nelson and Rodney)

snrumph
08-17-2006, 09:58 AM
Yes, I think I am an addict now. I downloaded and installed the greywolves mod last night. Very impressive. I especially like the music and ambient noise. Most of all I like the eerie metal on metal scraping sound the torpedoes make when fired. Cool! Though I do find the mod overwhelms my computer somewhat and my system goes well beyond the recommended requirements.

Danelov
08-17-2006, 10:34 AM
Well, in reality, only three Battleships were destroyed by submarines in WWII in all fronts

-The Royal Oak by U-47 in Scapa Flow
-The Barham by U-331 in the Mediterranean
-The Kongo by the USS Sealion near Formosa.

Battleship were build to resist all type of impacts,bombs and torpedos and in some ships the armour belt can take 4 or more torpedo hits.All they were a lot too fast to be hunted by submarines(Also the olds Royal Sovereigns and Queen Elizabeths were a lot too fast with his 22 knts),and in general very well escorted.The only exception were the German ships, sometimes really operating alone or with minimum escort(a paying also the high price).
Only a luck tactical position(like the U-331 with Barham)a inmovil target(like U-47 with Royal Oak)or a previous damaged ship with reduced speed(USS Sealion with IJN Kongo)can give a sub the oportunity to destroy his colosses.Certainly several Battleships were damaged by German ,Japanese,French,Italian subs but not enough to put this ship out of combat.Exception for his special circuntances the attack in Alexandria by the "Maiali" of the Italian Regia Marina with the Queen Elizabeth and the Valiant Heavy damaged.But there were made with human torpedos and deposing the explosives charges in the hulls or in the bottom of the port, under the anchored ships.

Shahed_Kazi
08-17-2006, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Danelov:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Sunk 2 Nelson @ Loch Ewe, 2 different partols, damaged one more.

Umm, something is wrong here,there were only two Nelson type(Nelson and Rodney) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes what's wrong is that if you happen to revisit Loch Ewe you will find a Nelson there every time. OI'm not sure if it depends on date, but I visited 3 times and every time I found a nelson there, sunk 2 of them (seperate patrols), the 3rd visit I damaged the Nelson with 5 torps. hat was when I just aimed at the ship and not for a specific part, now I would kill it with a single shot, most probably. Sunk the George with a single shot.

Shahed_Kazi
08-17-2006, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by snrumph:
Yes, I think I am an addict now. I downloaded and installed the greywolves mod last night. Very impressive. I especially like the music and ambient noise. Most of all I like the eerie metal on metal scraping sound the torpedoes make when fired. Cool! Though I do find the mod overwhelms my computer somewhat and my system goes well beyond the recommended requirements.

I've reduced particle density to 40%, runs smooth as silk.

prj57
08-17-2006, 05:24 PM
Maybe I am stupid or BB just don't want to die http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

Patrol 3 GW1.1 - went to Loch Ewe on the way back from AM41, sneaked with no trouble this time just some paintwork damaged from some tin can that someone left floating under the water...

As sonar goes crazy reporting every single contact I decide to take a peak and see what we have...

http://vwclub-bg.org/~prj57/SH%20III/SH3Img@18-8-2006_1.13.jpg

I am lucky! (I say to myself) This time I have a full load of torps - 5 front, 2 aft

As I get closer I want to have a look at this guy

http://vwclub-bg.org/~prj57/SH%20III/SH3Img@18-8-2006_1.12.jpg

I fire one at the DD behind Nelson and send a 3 salvo at the BB

http://vwclub-bg.org/~prj57/SH%20III/SH3Img@18-8-2006_1.16.jpg

DD torp detonates prematureley, but other 3 hit Nelson bang on!

And here starts the problem.... that ship doesn't want to sink....I fire last torp infront -hit, do a 180 turn and empty the 2 aft torps, all hits!

So I'm thinking, he should go sleep with the fishes now...

This is what is going on after 24hr sitting quietly in Loch Ewe

http://vwclub-bg.org/~prj57/SH%20III/SH3Img@18-8-2006_1.52.jpg

He is just slightly to the left but hasn't touch bottom even!

Here's a pic of the shots and sequence....I've tried aiming at different parts but I suck big time!

http://vwclub-bg.org/~prj57/SH%20III/SH3Img@18-8-2006_1.55.jpg

Would appreciate any help where to aim. I saw on a pic here in the forum a Rec Manual that showed ships and a color scheme with Ammo, Fuel, Engines, etc.

How can I get that?

the_Wakeful
08-17-2006, 05:59 PM
I would very much like that manual as well.

Gmuno
08-18-2006, 12:38 AM
Aim for ammo depots. 2 impact-torps below the turrets and you've got your score http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif.

Danelov
08-19-2006, 02:46 PM
"Yes what's wrong is that if you happen to revisit Loch Ewe you will find a Nelson there every time. OI'm not sure if it depends on date, but I visited 3 times and every time I found a nelson there, sunk 2 of them (seperate patrols]

I was today there, already a lot of danger very shallow entry and a lot of very carefull protecting destroyers.But not BB Nelson class there, a Illustrious class carrier anchored ,A Fletcher class DD and a T-3 tanker.
Launched four torpedos to the Illustrious but the ship was anchored in a very sharp angle ,protected by the docks and all torpedos were missed or duds. A lucky hit with the stern tube in the bow of the Fletcher and running out in maximum silence to evade the furies o the DDs.The "Pinging" was constant and terrible and the near misses in so shallow waters take a good toll of the hull integrity.Finally escaped with minimum speed and noise and expended many hours submerged to gain the exit of the bay and then, again down to evade the continuos attack of Sunderlands and Swordfishs.The time was July 1942 and the boat, the U-85(VIIB).

tambor198
08-19-2006, 06:58 PM
I've had several encounters with English Battleships since insatlling the GW mod. Like everyone else I've sunk a couple of Nelson class BBs in Lock Ewe on two different patrols. My very first one was an encounter was with two Revenge class BBs escorted by two Dido class CL and five destroyers. I was heading north Grid CG northwest of Gibraltor when my lookouts spotted a BB coming out of the gloom at about 8,000 meters. I was patrolling in a Type IXB by the way. Lucily for me there where no escorts out ahead of the BB when we made contact. I fired four torpedoes at a very shallow angle (almost "down the throat" as they say)from 900 meters. The rudder was was put hard over to port to bring the stern tubes to bear. At less than 500 meters after the bow torpedoes had all hit I fired the stern tubes with the BB firing everthing that could bear on us. The first four torpedoes had hit up forward on the BB, while the stern tubes hit the BB in the *** end. Six hits out of six torpedoes fired and the BB just sailed on like nothing had happened. When I got back to base, I told my Squadron CDR that I think I at least damaged the BB. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif



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prj57
08-20-2006, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by the_Wakeful:
I would very much like that manual as well.

I think I found the manual - it should be Full Vulnerability Mod - try this page:

Target Manual (http://www.jeuxdeguerre.com/index.php?p=2&t=44&c=113)

mariuszj1939
08-21-2006, 01:27 AM
I was so lucky to find once task force with 3 battleships. I still didn't meet any carriers on open water.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/73...381034824#7381034824 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/7381034824?r=7381034824#7381034824)

Grrbob25
08-25-2006, 02:32 AM
I got a revenge after sitting in scapa all night in '39. As i am horribly innaccutate with torps it took awhile http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Gmuno
08-25-2006, 03:11 AM
If the ship is stoped, don't use the TDC. Go near to the ship (about 500 meters), make sure that you have optimal bearing (90?) and aim with your crosshairs alone. Fire impacts at 2 m depth bellow the turrets (2 torps for BB, 1 for anything else).