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XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 11:06 PM
For a new FB experience, do this...

Starting at 2000m above mountains, fly off the east (right) map edge of the (south~east) bottom right of the Kuban map. Then come back to the cut off mountain "cliffs" at lower altitude. You fly through the cliffs and the entire mountain terrain is above you. Using speedbar altitude, you may fly at negative (less than zero) altitude.

Do *not* lower gear and try to "land" under mountains, as you will lose elevator control. Just nose down and the only thing you will notice is the negative number on speedbar.

Now, I got a MiG~3U to 1470km/hr by diving down to -15km altitude. But it seemed my controls were acting up afterward, but I was able to climb back up to just beneath the map. Yes, the landscape 15km above looked like the nice little landscape Pancake that we all have come to Tolerate and have Compassion for. When flying beneath the map, the grafix below you is the same as you see when you land in water--nothing but dull grey. High above were all the familiar landscape details:: roads, forests, crop Patches, airfields, "inverted" mountains, etc...

So I flew beneath the map north up to that big lake and guess what, you can look up at the lake and see the sky through the water above, just like normal.

The fun is coming up from below and you hit land. The first time I tried this I got a fb109G2 to "bounce" into the map, I found myself just above the map where I hit from below, at 2000km/hr speed and I zoomed to 7km in a few seconds, slowing down all the way. Nice little white puff balls formed all around my 109--possibly an FB attempt to render transonic vapour condensations or something.

I hope this is on topic. verygrimsmileyface.rbj

Have Fun!



Message Edited on 07/01/0310:12PM by LEXX_Luthor

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 11:06 PM
For a new FB experience, do this...

Starting at 2000m above mountains, fly off the east (right) map edge of the (south~east) bottom right of the Kuban map. Then come back to the cut off mountain "cliffs" at lower altitude. You fly through the cliffs and the entire mountain terrain is above you. Using speedbar altitude, you may fly at negative (less than zero) altitude.

Do *not* lower gear and try to "land" under mountains, as you will lose elevator control. Just nose down and the only thing you will notice is the negative number on speedbar.

Now, I got a MiG~3U to 1470km/hr by diving down to -15km altitude. But it seemed my controls were acting up afterward, but I was able to climb back up to just beneath the map. Yes, the landscape 15km above looked like the nice little landscape Pancake that we all have come to Tolerate and have Compassion for. When flying beneath the map, the grafix below you is the same as you see when you land in water--nothing but dull grey. High above were all the familiar landscape details:: roads, forests, crop Patches, airfields, "inverted" mountains, etc...

So I flew beneath the map north up to that big lake and guess what, you can look up at the lake and see the sky through the water above, just like normal.

The fun is coming up from below and you hit land. The first time I tried this I got a fb109G2 to "bounce" into the map, I found myself just above the map where I hit from below, at 2000km/hr speed and I zoomed to 7km in a few seconds, slowing down all the way. Nice little white puff balls formed all around my 109--possibly an FB attempt to render transonic vapour condensations or something.

I hope this is on topic. verygrimsmileyface.rbj

Have Fun!



Message Edited on 07/01/0310:12PM by LEXX_Luthor

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 11:32 PM
http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/seeger/bilder/mib_k2.jpg

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 11:37 PM
haha.

I love the pic

I got a B-1 supersonic once.

I turned off fuel conumption, hoped in a QMB at 10k, no enemies (not nescessary, but speeds things up) and climbed until I couldn't anymore at full throttle (about 25k meters up)

Then I dove. I hit 2000km/h at about 15k meters. 1600km/h is 1000 mph, and speed of sound is about 750 mph. So i think I was around mach 2, a little under.


Funny thing was this: I went into flyby mode (zip) and fired the guns to see what the doppler shift would do to them . . they should be silent until the plane passes, and then you hear all of them . . . in backwards order . . .

well, the gunshots were not doppler shifted at all. In fact, you heard them just normal normal. Its not fun, but then speed of sound wasn't officially broken until a later date.

XyZspineZyX
07-01-2003, 11:50 PM
Hehe, nice one. My favorite is the subterrainian trees.

http://geocities.com/fennec50/trees.txt

Then on the second day, it was made bug free, and He saw that it was good.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:12 AM
I tood a ME-262 "Down" to 78K Meters. Funny thing is even though I was at idle my engines overheated.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:31 AM
Fly *Below* Kuban Map


Long ago while flyin a mission called Flak ally ,I dl:ed on some site. I found my self flyin over them cliffs and as I lossed alt my plane ended low below the edge of cliff.

Not feelin like climbin back up I decided to crasch the IL-2 against the mountin wall.....and got right throu it!!!

I ended up under the map like you.

I made some more similar flights and even tried to flie throu the sea surface to the upper side, but that didÔ┬┤nt work. Plane blew up,but I was able to destroy ground and seatargets from below...lol.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:47 AM
triggerhappyfin wrote:

- I made some more similar flights and even tried to
- flie throu the sea surface to the upper side, but
- that didÔ┬┤nt work. Plane blew up,but I was able to
- destroy ground and seatargets from below...lol.
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This could put a new perspective on vulching,

just lurk BENEATH the enemy runway waiting for them to spawn http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 04:01 AM
I have seen submarines at +60 ft so that would balance things.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 04:07 AM
could be a sneaky way of killing subs

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:25 AM
This is just soooo Jules Verne!!!

S!

M0NS



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:43 PM
Anyone have seen Tremor I or II? I just got SCARED!

michapma
07-03-2003, 11:12 AM
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Gotta try this out. Thanks for sharing!

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 01:09 PM
Last night I got a humble Polish P11c to "bounce" through the surface below the mountains, I came out moving at 4000km/hr according to speedbar. Zoomed up to over 11km altitude I did, before stopping. I could not maintain that altitude, of course. Repeated flights doing this (same mission) I would get less performance boost, and the white puffballs surrounding the aircraft got worse each time I did it.

XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:13 PM
Thats pure phun /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . Found it out a year or so ago... but didn't write about it. As it's "out" now I hope they *don'T* fix it /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif . BTW You need all realistic landings, blackout & redout, flutter effect and engine overheat off for this. Otherwise the big accelleration will even crack a Hurri engine with overheatig on, flutter effects kill you or you just explode on contact with realistic landings on. No blackout is better for controllability /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif . Furthermore it seems like slow planes get propelled more than fast planes. So don't run in there with 1000 IAS, slow down before it. Another good thing is to come 90Ô? against the surface. This also works if you come from above, but the effect isn't that high. 1000 IAS are already really hard to reach there, but from below it's a childsplay. Too good the germans didn't know it in the war /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:42 PM
OK....
http://mitglied.lycos.de/eldur190d9/bilder/space.jpg

anybody can beat THIS??? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Doh!
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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 04:56 PM
There are quite a few oddities about the mountain map. Does anyone remember the track with the 109's hovering in mid-air? They landed at at least 300 meters above the runway. One would "land", then the next would come in over it and stradle it until they both exploded. I took a screenshot that looked as if the two planes were doin' the nasty LMAO /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/p39s.jpg


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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 05:02 PM
This is crap...
First, I want to see somebody exceeding c. It's about 300000 km/s, about 1,080,000,000 km/h.

Now planes gonna start goin' back in time, so we'll have them finally meet our beloved WWI planes! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Second, does it work online? It could be so fun organizing dogfights at thousands of km/h below mountains... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Sometimes I think we're goin' mad... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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