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XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 10:12 PM
I just saw the movie Battle of Britain and i noticed how large the airfields were. We can also see several planes taking off at the same time. Was it a very common design for airfields? And how come we don't see that kind of airfields in IL2? Was it only common to British airfields?
Anyway, i would love to take off and land in a wave with my teamates.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 10:12 PM
I just saw the movie Battle of Britain and i noticed how large the airfields were. We can also see several planes taking off at the same time. Was it a very common design for airfields? And how come we don't see that kind of airfields in IL2? Was it only common to British airfields?
Anyway, i would love to take off and land in a wave with my teamates.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 10:34 PM
Pre-war, airfields were very much what the word suggests - fields. No runways. This was handy as you could always land directly into wind. But as the war progressed planes got heavier, and needed longer takeoff runs (e.g. heavy bombers), so hard runways became more and more common.
The classic Battle of Britain scramble involved flights of aircraft taking off line abreast. Exciting stuff!

I've seen several people on the boards lamenting the lack of traditional, non-runwayed airfields in Il2 and FB.

XyZspineZyX
10-17-2003, 10:39 PM
Hopefully the BoB sim will show the grass airfields as they were in 1940. Though to have mass take-offs we will need a wind direction, otherwise folk will just point anywhere and go, like in online play at present.
Cheers!

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XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 12:00 AM
I am from South Africa and was in the UK a while back for work, I went to the British F1 Grand Prix at Silverstone.
I was amazed at how big the general area was as in the WW2 era it was an airfield. Or at least so I was told.

XyZspineZyX
10-18-2003, 02:08 AM
I live near the site of RAF Hornchurch and I can confirm that it was indeed enormous (it's now an enormous housing estate). However, the pre- war RAF airstrips were much more than just grass fields- they were very well established even in the 1920s. I have a wartime map of RAF Hornchurch which shows that it had an internal road system; ammunition, fuel and oil storage dumps; dispersal bays; control towers; officers and NCOs quarters; sanitoriums; a morgue; a chapel and extensive 'married' quarters. To say nothing of a series of large hangers and numerous searchlight platforms/AAA batteries/pill boxes.
The accommodation was mainly brick- built , multi-storey and intended to last- as were the concrete fortifications.
Ironically, all that remains of the airfield now is a solitary pill box and the odd overgrown concrete ruin in amongst woodland. Some of the married quarters also still exist but they've been incorporated into the housing estate and are almost unrecognisable.
If it wasn't for the fact that many of the roads around here are named after Battle of Britain pilots who flew from Hornchurch you would never guess that the place had been prominent in our recent history.
I visited RAF Detling in Kent a few weeks ago- it is also now defunct although some of its tarmaced road network and buildings still exist. Same story with RAF Biggin Hill which was also built on the grand scale.

So in answer to your question the film is correct in showing large aerodromes- they were all constructed in peacetime many years before.
In Russia the same was true- Siverskaya Aerodrome, where JG54 were based for 18 months (in an effort to seize Leningrad) was a thoroughly modern and very large facility ie it had hard- surfaced take- off strips, taxiways, disperal points, barracks and centrally heated hangers. But JG54 were unusually lucky to be able to use such a site- most of the other German units found themselves obliged to use much smaller airstrips or simply fields- where the Wehrmacht went they had to follow.