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XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 11:52 PM
Any chance of seeing these in the game?

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sd2.htm

XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 11:52 PM
Any chance of seeing these in the game?

http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sd2.htm

XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 11:58 PM
pretty cool. what nation are they from? also what kind of aircraft dropped em?

XyZspineZyX
06-23-2003, 11:58 PM
oh nevermind i see it says german at the bottom

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:05 AM
They were like exploding sycamore seeds. Didn't even look like bombs. They were sort of like flying cluster bomblets that helicoptered (if there's such a word!) away from the plane and scattered over a wide area. Naturally enough, there were plenty of stories of kids finding them, not recognising them as bombs, and picking them up...

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:08 AM
MosquitoFB wrote:
- Any chance of seeing these in the game?

Only if you look close enough! They are already in the game /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Try the AB250.
http://www.mudmovers.com/sturmovik_101/images/AB250.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:10 AM
Theo is the man tonight.

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XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:43 AM
M'lud, I stand corrected /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(bloody serial numbers!)

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:46 AM
Those things are nasty. Remember watching a movie series called UBX about a British bomb disposal team during the Battle of Britain, guy blew himself up trying to defuse it after a kid brought it up to his bedroom.

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XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:50 AM
What are they used for? ANti tank, like PTAB?

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:54 AM
I believe they are just clusterbombs designed to spread out over a large area.

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XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 01:24 AM
TAW_Jenikov wrote:
- What are they used for? ANti tank, like PTAB?

They are not shaped charges like PTAB and thus aren't very good against armor. According to Warbirds Resource Group there were 3 types:

SD 2B(41) - airburst or impact
SD 2B(67) - delay 5-30 min.
SD 3B(70) - antidisturbance

The kind in SD250 used in the sim has (41)A impact fuzes. The second type with variable fuzing is for temporary area denial. The third type is a nasty landmine.

Wouldn't it be evil to drop a load of SD 3B(70) all over an enemy runway? Hahaha... no soup for you!
http://www.btinternet.com/~paul.steele/BUTTERFLIES.jpg

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 01:29 AM
i never woulda noticed the shape of the little tiny bombs inside the ab's. heck, my computer probably won't even show em, even that close.

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 02:34 AM
Yes, I watched the UBX (I think Unexploded Bomb) series and I remember the episode with the butterfly bomblets. They were anti-personnel bomblets. Children and adults aliked liked to pick them up. They looked like toys and at that time no one knew what they were. They were deadly bombs.

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 03:49 AM
Wow, I've used these things before but I never took the time to "zoom" in on them. Talk about attention to detail, just when I thought I'd seen it all in the game.

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:02 PM
See? My lack of attention to detail has had a positive benefit /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:19 PM
From what I remember from the programme I watched they were an experiment in area denial and were purposely dropped over a previously untouched British town by the Luftwaffe to see what sort of an effect they had.

The effect was huge - many were killed by these unconventional weapons but the death toll overall was not particularly large, it's main effect was to bring the whole area to a grinding halt while methods were found to locate and dispose of these devices.

They were subsequently dropped over a few airfields but those in control eventually decided they weren't particularly effective and stopped using them.

This was in stark contrast to what was actually happening on the ground, terrible disruption greatly disproportional to tonnage dropped. If they'd stuck with the idea and plastered London with such bomblets the problems caused would have been immense.

SSS

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:25 PM
I've also seen reports that these bombs weren't particularly safe to use. there seem to be plentifold of reports of planes returning with their bombs, only to have them come off at touchdown.

I'm a crappy pilot, but one hell of a shot.

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:32 PM
Bit of interest info...my wife's Grandfather was an 'advisor' for 'Danger UXB' due to experience in munitions clearance from 1940-45 (I think). He dealt with these anti-personnel bomblets.

When Channel 4 (UK) did a program last year he was interviewed for it....

Off to the gym now!

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XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:36 PM
It was called "Danger:UXB" (UneXploded Bomb)

I'd never join a club that would have ME as a member!!.

XyZspineZyX
06-24-2003, 12:36 PM
EmbarkChief wrote:
- Wow, I've used these things before but I never took
- the time to "zoom" in on them. Talk about attention
- to detail, just when I thought I'd seen it all in
- the game.

Thank you all for your patronage of the Loadout Guide that I wrote last year, the pics of the AB250 above were created by me for just such an occasion.

If you want to learn more about the many types of ordnance available in IL2, check out the rest of the weapons guide here, the full Loadout Guide was moved to Mudmovers recently:

http://www.mudmovers.com/sturmovik_101/loadouts.htm


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