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fordfan25
07-11-2005, 04:53 PM
its just a dag nasty fact. there is no way thay were that good IRL. i KNOW for a FACT thay were not half that strong.............
........................................

FritzGryphon
07-11-2005, 05:10 PM
Thank you for the insight. This changes everything.

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 05:22 PM
................ well theres 1 ..........................na to small thrown him back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

LStarosta
07-11-2005, 05:28 PM
I think you need a better can of worms to put on your hook.

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by LStarosta:
I think you need a better can of worms to put on your hook.


shshshshh be vawy vawy quiet. but yea i know. i donbt want to be to good and get a ban lol.

MEGILE
07-11-2005, 06:32 PM
STFU n00b!!! Rall shotdown 7 P-47s using a single MK-108, so get your facts right! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

The 1st P47 was a direct hit to the tail, and the rest of the wing got took down from the shockwave

Badsight.
07-11-2005, 06:41 PM
too soon for the money shot ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Badsight/oneMK108inSpit.jpg

thats a Spitfire BTW

makes you wonder what the latest 20 to 30mm cannon on the latest jets are like

the F22 Raptor carries 480 rounds for its M61A2 20mm , the Flankers & Fulcrums have insane cannon too

MEGILE
07-11-2005, 06:49 PM
The A-10s 30mm is uber

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
STFU n00b!!! Rall shotdown 7 P-47s using a single MK-108, so get your facts right! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

The 1st P47 was a direct hit to the tail, and the rest of the wing got took down from the shockwave


Oooooo this ones a keeper. im thinking of haveing him mounted on a oak plaq. with the inscripton :cought in july 05 in the shallow waters of the IL2 forum: what do you guys think, gold or silver lettering? im thinking silver will give it that majestic antique look.

he cant go down....not with 3 barrels in him.

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
too soon for the money shot ?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v18/Badsight/oneMK108inSpit.jpg

thats a Spitfire BTW

makes you wonder what the latest 20 to 30mm cannon on the latest jets are like

the F22 Raptor carries 480 rounds for its M61A2 20mm , the Flankers & Fulcrums have insane cannon too

what is it oleg says when facts are presented...O yea PROPAGANDA http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Badsight.
07-11-2005, 07:33 PM
& that was just ONE round too !

but seriously , use Mahogany

it will look nicer

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Badsight.:
& that was just ONE round too !

but seriously , use Mahogany

it will look nicer

you think so. was kinda thinking ceder to match the dresser i accedently shot when i was 14 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif man a 30-30 win is load in a single wide trailer http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Mahogany.... yea i think that would look good with the silver inlays. besides mahogany is almost as over moddled as the 108's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

MEGILE
07-11-2005, 07:42 PM
Catching a fisherman is against the laws of fizzics.. it causes a rip in the space time continium, and creates a black hole in the 4th paralel dimension.
You nice?

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
Catching a fisherman is against the laws of fizzics.. it causes a rip in the space time continium, and creates a black hole in the 4th paralel dimension.
You nice?

Na the hook still set's fine. ever seen one of those movies were two guys are fishing. on guy will go to cast and catch the guy behind him in the lip lol. dont worry m8 a little bandaid and youll be right as rain....only with a swollen lip lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MEGILE
07-11-2005, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
:

The 1st P47 was a direct hit to the tail, and the rest of the wing got took down from the shockwave

Irony is dead.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

I could do, why did the chicken cross the road?

fordfan25
07-11-2005, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
:

The 1st P47 was a direct hit to the tail, and the rest of the wing got took down from the shockwave

Irony is dead.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

I could do, why did the chicken cross the road? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol no i get it u just dont get that i get it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

by the way i love the avater. i am a huge fan of the old school transformers. thay kinda made saterday morning the place to me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MEGILE
07-11-2005, 08:21 PM
Be sure

Optimus Prime is 1337

lbhskier37
07-11-2005, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
Be sure

Optimus Prime is 1337

"I didn't know optimus prime was jewish"--in his bestPeter Griffin voice

JamesBlonde888
07-11-2005, 11:01 PM
I guess I should go burn my copy of the First and the Last then. Adolf Galland obviously knew squat about the Mk108 since our resident authority was the real General der Jagdfleiger and armed his Mk108's with bb's.

Manos1
07-12-2005, 01:23 AM
fishing season started again !

LStarosta
07-12-2005, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by JamesBlonde888:
I guess I should go burn my copy of the First and the Last then. Adolf Galland obviously knew squat about the Mk108 since our resident authority was the real General der Jagdfleiger and armed his Mk108's with bb's.

Against all odds, it looks like you got one, FordFan. Congratulations!

Jagdklinger
07-12-2005, 04:54 AM
Idiot! Don't you know the power of a Mk108?
The comparative kinetic energy of a 30mm round as opposed to a 20mm Hispano round blah blah -

*runs off and staggers back under a pile of 'official' German test data and eyewitness accounts laboriously printed off the internet

*Pile of 'proof' collapses, squashing respondent, who gasps "Where's Hristos or Kurfurst when you need them?" before expiring...

NextBarbaPapa
07-12-2005, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
its just a dag nasty fact. there is no way thay were that good IRL. i KNOW for a FACT thay were not half that strong.............
........................................

This is simply not true. Mk108 is overmodelled only in regard of ACCURACY, not POWER. German fighter pilots prefered Mg151/20 because it had much better ballistics and was much accurately. By Luftwaffe reports, a SINGLE hit from Mk108 was liable to down TWIN engined plane, 3 on average needed to shoot down four engined bomber. (while 20-25 hits with 20mm ammunition was needed for same).

When I rewieved previous versions of game, I think 2.0 or 2.01 got Mk108 accuracy quite good, but then it was turned unrealisticaly accurate. I don't know why developement team changed this.

Jagdklinger
07-12-2005, 05:24 AM
Congrats fordfan http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

carguy_
07-12-2005, 05:54 AM
Sorry,MK108 had problems with accuracy until plane got in range of 20m.It is ok now.

F19_Olli72
07-12-2005, 05:57 AM
Yawn, one of the more boring troll post ive read.

Now please let this useless waste of space die.

jessi1
07-12-2005, 05:58 AM
Nextbarbapapa your kiddin right, please someone tell me hes kiddin......lol. Dam that was too easy huh fordfan.

F19_Ob
07-12-2005, 06:30 AM
Just remember that there are limitations in this sim and damage cant be replicaded from all aspects.
Sometimes the damage may feel a bit less and other times a bit too much.Often it's really good though and correspond well with written accounts. Cant find another sim that compares with it.

Too bad some need to take sides in this imaginary conflict and enjoy the sim less.
The happier part of the community still seem to be those who enjoy planes from all sides.
I highly recommend that experience.

regards http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

PBNA-Boosher
07-12-2005, 06:36 AM
I know this is kind of a joke, but just to prove the other point:

Gottfried Dulias, a Bf-109G-14/AS pilot shot down 5 planes in his career, he was an ace. All planes he shot down were with the MK108 cannon, and all were brought down with one gunshot. The only exception would be his attempted 6th kill. the I-16 was still flying after it was brutally hit in the wing tank and was going home.

So it is very possible to survive a MK-108 round, but it also is even more plausible that if you're hit, you should bail.

F19_Ob
07-12-2005, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by PBNA-Boosher:

So it is very possible to survive a MK-108 round, but it also is even more plausible that if you're hit, you should bail.

That pretty much sums up my years of reading about axis planes and about the accounts involving the 30mm.

Regarding the p47 I have come across one hit kills, aswell as several 30mm hits without the plane going down. That perhaps means it depend a lot where and how it hits.

Atomic_Marten
07-12-2005, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
its just a dag nasty fact. there is no way thay were that good IRL. i KNOW for a FACT thay were not half that strong.............
........................................

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/Atomic_Marten/Smileys/th_boo.gif

MEGILE
07-12-2005, 07:50 AM
I retire from fishing, Fordfan can take over

NextBarbaPapa
07-12-2005, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by jessi1:
Nextbarbapapa your kiddin right, please someone tell me hes kiddin......lol. Dam that was too easy huh fordfan.

Hi jessi

Have you ever seen guncam footage of Mk108? Have you ever seen a single picture with Mk108 hit damage (yes, they are rare, because of not many planes being hit with that that were able to come back)? They were even posted in this thread!

I mean, hey, it is not a bow, it's a 30mm rapid firing cannon! What else can you expect? It was one hit - kill weapon. Such a grenade is capable of killing a plane even if you toss it there with your bare hands - being much stronger than, let's say, handgrendade. And I bet having handgrenade going off on thin plating of ww2 fighter is not a good idea.

M.

BSS_Goat
07-12-2005, 08:07 AM
He's a fighter! Carefull now he may still be dangerous.

JG7_Rall
07-12-2005, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by NextBarbaPapa:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jessi1:
Nextbarbapapa your kiddin right, please someone tell me hes kiddin......lol. Dam that was too easy huh fordfan.

Hi jessi

Have you ever seen guncam footage of Mk108? Have you ever seen a single picture with Mk108 hit damage (yes, they are rare, because of not many planes being hit with that that were able to come back)? They were even posted in this thread!

I mean, hey, it is not a bow, it's a 30mm rapid firing cannon! What else can you expect? It was one hit - kill weapon. Such a grenade is capable of killing a plane even if you toss it there with your bare hands - being much stronger than, let's say, handgrendade. And I bet having handgrenade going off on thin plating of ww2 fighter is not a good idea.

M. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FISH ON! *runs over to ford to ensure that he isn't pulled in, and tightens seat straps*



This is the best thread ever. Most productive in a long time, methinks.

JG7_Rall
07-12-2005, 08:13 AM
I'm being sincere. I love the thread.

F19_Olli72
07-12-2005, 08:28 AM
http://gallery.battleangel.org/albums/userpics/net_culture/normal_dont-feed-the-trolls.png

Pirschjaeger
07-12-2005, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by Megile:
it causes a rip in the space time continium, and creates a black hole in the 4th paralel dimension.


That's the best argument in favor of the 108 I've heard in a long time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

Ankanor
07-12-2005, 11:39 AM
I have a proof that the MK108 are in fact waaaay overmodeled http://server2.uploadit.org/files/ankanor-pwned.jpg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Kurfurst__
07-12-2005, 11:45 AM
Effect of single MK 108 hit on Blenheim light bomber fuselage :

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/715_1095101516_mk108effectonblenheim.jpg

Guess this thread can die now? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VW-IceFire
07-12-2005, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Manos1:
fishing season started again !
Yes except Forfan is actually funny about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The other fishermen are not nearly as funny. Oh...except Crash.

LStarosta
07-12-2005, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
I'm being sincere. I love the thread.

I....thought... :: snivel :: that you loved.... me?

WarWolfe_1
07-12-2005, 12:05 PM
http://e4u.deltait.com.au/sport/sport24.gif

FliegerAas
07-12-2005, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
its just a dag nasty fact. there is no way thay were that good IRL. i KNOW for a FACT thay were not half that strong.............
........................................

http://www.negativeactiongroup.at/portal/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/10075/gay_thread.jpg

MEGILE
07-12-2005, 12:26 PM
hmm Flieger, we don't behave in such a manner around these parts http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

FliegerAas
07-12-2005, 01:19 PM
No, you guys make trolling thread after trolling thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif Not much better either, don't you think ?

MEGILE
07-12-2005, 01:25 PM
I meant the prancing about in Spandex..
as for the rest.. guilty as charged http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FliegerAas
07-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
I meant the prancing about in Spandex..
as for the rest.. guilty as charged http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

fordfan25
07-12-2005, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Manos1:
fishing season started again !
Yes except Forfan is actually funny about it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The other fishermen are not nearly as funny. Oh...except Crash. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thank u for the kind words http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and yes crash is the seth master. i am but his lowly aprintece. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

gotta admit i cought more than a started out to. FliegerAas is the catch of the day though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

fordfan25
07-12-2005, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NextBarbaPapa:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jessi1:
Nextbarbapapa your kiddin right, please someone tell me hes kiddin......lol. Dam that was too easy huh fordfan.

Hi jessi

Have you ever seen guncam footage of Mk108? Have you ever seen a single picture with Mk108 hit damage (yes, they are rare, because of not many planes being hit with that that were able to come back)? They were even posted in this thread!

I mean, hey, it is not a bow, it's a 30mm rapid firing cannon! What else can you expect? It was one hit - kill weapon. Such a grenade is capable of killing a plane even if you toss it there with your bare hands - being much stronger than, let's say, handgrendade. And I bet having handgrenade going off on thin plating of ww2 fighter is not a good idea.

M. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

FISH ON! *runs over to ford to ensure that he isn't pulled in, and tightens seat straps*



This is the best thread ever. Most productive in a long time, methinks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks for the help. he was a biggon

fordfan25
07-12-2005, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by F19_Olli72:
Yawn, one of the more boring troll post ive read.

Now please let this useless waste of space die.

im sorry but your post is to undermoddled for me to read. whine to olge and see if you cant get it as overmoddled as the 108's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Badsight.
07-12-2005, 06:13 PM
the serious replys , hilarious

truely hilarious

fordfan25
07-12-2005, 08:25 PM
Yea i know. some times i wounder if there seriose or fakeing it LOL. and yes Megile i know you were not being 4 real lol. though i will pretend you were so go back in 334th you n00b and use your overmoddled BS 108 cannons.

"for the record i think 334th server is great and in no way should be contected to a n00b like megile" LMAO j/k

MEGILE
07-12-2005, 08:52 PM
I've never been in the 334th Server.
Honestly
No.. really!
You gotta believe me!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

fordfan25
07-12-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
I've never been in the 334th Server.
Honestly
No.. really!
You gotta believe me!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif



o please i saw you on there 15 min ago......i hu mean if i had been in there 15 min ago that is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif . lol yo were in a n00b-7 tryn to vaulch some guy in a porked-38L late. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

MEGILE
07-13-2005, 07:22 AM
I pzwned him with my uber MK108

fordfan25
07-13-2005, 08:48 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

LStarosta
07-13-2005, 08:51 AM
http://www.maarasuniverse.com/luke2/lukeinbacta1.jpeg

You just don't want to let this die, huh?

Ankanor
07-13-2005, 10:37 AM
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/ankanor-bscap024.jpg
<span class="ev_code_RED">Die, Thread, Die!!!</span>

new-fherathras
07-13-2005, 11:52 AM
ST(D)FU!

I KNAAW DAT THE 50`S ARE UNDERMODDED!
DAT OLEG FELLA IZ BLUE-BIAS NR.1!

30MM GOT PWND BY 50`S IN REAL LIFE!

JUSTTD COMPARE TEH NUMBERS!!!! 30 vs 50! NO0BS!

TEH PIC IS MODELL BE SURE!!!!1ELLEVEN

darkhorizon11
07-13-2005, 05:22 PM
omg tha MKs r lke wayyyyy ovamodellled

i mean pullleeaze there is nooo waayyyy like they shot downn tha p51 that playne is likkee so like awesum i mean how could u actually fli ne thing else, tht 109??? lke ugh totally dummmmm

darkhorizon11
07-13-2005, 05:23 PM
Oh man I just blacked out there and had the wierdest dream, anyways, what happened? Did I miss anything?

new-fherathras
07-13-2005, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by darkhorizon11:
Oh man I just blacked out there and had the wierdest dream, anyways, what happened? Did I miss anything?


Do we have the same mother? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif



anyways, back on topic.


blah

fordfan25
07-13-2005, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by Ankanor:
http://server3.uploadit.org/files/ankanor-bscap024.jpg
<span class="ev_code_RED">Die, Thread, Die!!!</span>

and another one bites the hook. owww another one gone, and another one gone yea another one bites the dust. lets all sing it togather

Ankanor
07-14-2005, 01:19 AM
Ok, since it's Queen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

*sings* This thread will live forever. This thread will live forever http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

fordfan25
07-14-2005, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Ankanor:
Ok, since it's Queen http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

*sings* This thread will live forever. This thread will live forever http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif