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von1963
09-27-2006, 06:59 AM
Hi,Having been into flight sims since the spectrum 48k days http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gifi was wondering why you guys aint built a full size control room ??Has it been done at club level???You have to see the flight simulators folks have built,real pilots cant tell the difference, I know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gifJust google Flight simulators and see what people acheve.We in subs have a much easier life with making a PROPER SIMULATOR as we cant see much below deck and it is ALL instuments.I for one know its easy to make real life dials work with a sim program just need loads of servos and folks to make the dials.Just need folks to get on the boat so to speak.I would love to hear the forums views on this and maybe get Proper sims made round the world to play online http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifman it would be great and maybe SH4 can help us as i know they would love this idea.So all you arm chair simmers get off ur *** and think about this idea.I live in the SE UK and have an old grain silo just 4 inches bigger than true scale http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif imagine silo mounted on rams to move the boat 35 degrees each plane.IT CAN BE DONE AND WILL BE http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Good hunting

Realjambo
09-27-2006, 07:57 AM
I saw a documentary about hard core flight simmers. One guy had the authentic pressure flight suit and helmet and had built, a very impressive it has to say, a replica cockpit with working buttons and throttles in his home replete with several large monitors mounted around the cockpit canopy as wellas inside the cockpit to give the effect that he was really 'there' - Must have needed megabucks - and a very understanding wife!

As I said, it was all pretty imperssive stuff, must have takena lot of dedication but it looks like it paid off for that guy.

von1963
09-27-2006, 10:14 AM
Realjambo,It dont cost much if you can source the bits from scrapyards.I have 200 plus servos to make a UK sub plus the knowhow but just need help as i well cant do it myself as it would take ages.My friends dive on old uboats and i have a great collection of bits and if we want a depth meter i got 1 in my house,I got **** loads of dials bits and bobs and photos to make this work.Ive even got 2 uboat anchors with the mark.Tried to sell em on ebay but it had a greman mark on it that Ebay dont like WTF NOOBS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif{just cause Ebay is owned by a Jewish person how sad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif}Ive taken Ebay to court 4 times and won,Up the lads http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gifBut anyway i also have **** loads of Photos of the inside of 4 marks of boats as my family served in them.I will never make my 300 plus family photos public but will show em to build a sim.
Happy hunting

Kaiser_W
09-27-2006, 04:55 PM
No need to get intricate.

Look for a refrigerator box, put a rug in it to sit on and route the computer cables into it.

GoldenEagle8
09-28-2006, 03:16 PM
interesting idea, but wouldn't something like that take up an entire basement or whatever floor? That would be cool though.

"if you need me I'll be in my boat!"
lol

Kaiser_W
09-28-2006, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by GoldenEagle8:
interesting idea, but wouldn't something like that take up an entire basement or whatever floor? That would be cool though.

"if you need me I'll be in my boat!"
lol

I have a closet I'm not using.

StgShultz
09-28-2006, 06:34 PM
So am you in the closet or coming out of it - Kaiser_W?
sorry couldn't help myself

WilhelmSchulz.
09-28-2006, 08:01 PM
No what you need is something like the Holo-deck on the enterprise. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

hueywolf123
09-28-2006, 09:56 PM
It would not be too difficult, I have often thought about this. If you could run several screens off the same pc. 3 would be laid flat as the nav map, tdc map & crew management. 1 would be linked as a periscope view etc.
The entire physical structure would not have to be steel, pine beams could be used to simulate the ribs, ply wrapped around and them maybe aluminium chequer plate for the deck.
You could go way over and have hydraulic rams to rock the control room, or angle up or down for surfacing or diving. Surround sound speakers built in for engine sounds at the aft and torpedo sounds for'd. The pinging from DD's would then really freak you out. And don't forget the red lights.

Kaiser_W
09-28-2006, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by StgShultz:
So am you in the closet or coming out of it - Kaiser_W?
sorry couldn't help myself


Well if I was in it, I obviously would be using it...

Realjambo
09-29-2006, 12:59 AM
Don't forget the big hams and bananas to hang from the ceiling yummy! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Tontoman666
09-29-2006, 04:11 PM
That's big bucks. I just setup my computer in the bathtub.

If I get hit and I'm taking on water, I just turn on the shower and have the plug in so it fills up. All the emersion I need.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

T.

tuddley3
09-29-2006, 07:36 PM
Don't get electrocuted http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

spellir_74
09-30-2006, 07:08 AM
Virtual reality headsets.

They need to be lighter(neck safty etc), wider and higher peripheral vision, quicker 'latency' when turning head/moving, a way to see your body parts(hands and such) when the parts enter one's virtual view (reaching for controls and stuff), cheaper (more R&D 'growth'), ergonomic environments (ie comfortable/safe tilt-able chairs, elbow boards/hardware controls and pedals etc --which leads us back to construction again).

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(Then in the future once the virtual headsets and ergomonic "play enviroment cells" are common... we... the people.. to increase 'frame-rates' and decrease latency further... will argue/compete with each to see who gets to be first to add electrodes to the brain...

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I haven't looked for a few years but I believe(and I'm pulling this out of my a s s I think) the best headset is 25,000 grand for 1024 X 768; 5,000 grand for 800 X 600. Latency is probably slower than the 'turn your head' thing you put on top of your monitor when you play il sturm (ooh! I 'member: "trackIr"). And heavy /dangerous enough to sue (like in Steve Martin's 'the jerk') ...And still notice there is no (as monty python's spanish inquisition would say) 'comfy chair'; Eg 'CH pedals' hurt one's lower back in all but customized seating environments.

BUT the 'VR headsets' path is still a good place we (the simmers --especially history based sims) should be focusing R&D growth.

Think about all the different versions of historic equipment you'd have to hardware build accurately (bf 109 OR fw190 OR p51 mustang OR etc).

FYI The holo deck thing right now is called 'virtual caves'. They are not that good yet: small closet-sized diamond shaped mirrored rooms you sit in, in some kind of cockpit (with projectors on the floor, angled appropriately to the mirrors).

Of course the 'games' themselves need to be done better too. More immersive. Eg, at the very least, say AI wolfpacks and proper time based accurate radio messages etc. Think virtual time-machine, recreating an accurate time-place target-world and then placing you there 'virtually'. Lots of code...

spellir_74
09-30-2006, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by spellir_74:
Virtual reality headsets.

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Haven't looked for a long time. But here's to catching up...

http://www.sensics.com/?gclid=CLyFkda31YcCFU2dGgodxwOMoQ

http://www.theapplecollection.com/iMac/iStore/Z-Net.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=virtual+reality+headsets

spellir_74
09-30-2006, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by spellir_74:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spellir_74:
Virtual reality headsets.




http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/ces20051.htm


900 beans! I wonder how good though.

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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=virtual+reality+headsets

You get the idea.

von1963
09-30-2006, 10:43 AM
hueywolf123 I liked your post.Virtual reality headsets dont work and dont give you the same sence of being there,as you cant replace turning a dial by hand and that dial doing somthing.As most the programmers here will tell you you can as in a flight sim link 3 4 5 PCs to the sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifI must say ive flown military sims and us JOE PUPLIC can build just as good for the fraction of the price.People pay good money to fly in other peoples flight sims so why cant the same happen in SUBS.I for one know if i built a sub sim i would have a very long waiting list of them who want to try it out and i bet once bitten the sitting infront of the PC will never be the same,i supouse a spectrum versus a P4 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif.You can start of small and build up to the finished sim just start of with say a chart table the way is up to you guys.
Happy Hunting

tuddley3
10-01-2006, 02:34 AM
I would be interested in a program that would allow use of cheezy red/blue glasses. If there is such a program.