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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 05:35 AM
The way the pilot falls through the plane when he bails. Either program it so he doesnt hit the plane or make it so he hits the plane on occasion ....like when you bail with th wrong attitude (as in attitude of the plane in relation to the pilot for those who might say WTF.....) or you are just plane....(ok...plain..LOL pun intended) unlucky, and HE DIES..... but this falling through the wing stuff and through the fuselage is a drag. I still love the sim though!!! I wont let that stop me from having a good time but SHHHEEEESHHH!!!

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Message Edited on 07/02/0312:36AM by Bearcat99

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 05:35 AM
The way the pilot falls through the plane when he bails. Either program it so he doesnt hit the plane or make it so he hits the plane on occasion ....like when you bail with th wrong attitude (as in attitude of the plane in relation to the pilot for those who might say WTF.....) or you are just plane....(ok...plain..LOL pun intended) unlucky, and HE DIES..... but this falling through the wing stuff and through the fuselage is a drag. I still love the sim though!!! I wont let that stop me from having a good time but SHHHEEEESHHH!!!

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Message Edited on 07/02/0312:36AM by Bearcat99

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 05:47 AM
Edit - these paragraphs seemed a little funnier at the time but not so much now...

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Message Edited on 07/02/0306:08AM by Dexmeister

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:45 AM
Dexmeister wrote:
- Yah, whenever I see him go through the plane and
- then release his chute it's so fake. I want to see
- bloody decapitations where the blood shoots all over
- the plane, then you should be able to zoom in on him
- as he flutters lifelessly to the ground and you
- should be able to see a blood trail as his heart
- continues to pump blood through his gaping jugular
- vein.
-
- Also, if the rear stabilizers go through his torso,
- SO BE IT! Let's see what the sorry SOB had for
- dinner? I want to see that corn flying out of his
- stomach! I want to see his coffee and whiskey soaked
- liver! I want to see intestines wrap around the
- rudder! Bring it on!
-
- And if the pilot ejects from a burning canopy, I
- want to see those goggles melt onto his face! I want
- to see the skin flake away revealing flesh fragments
- over bones. I want to see him grasping for his
- burning hair and saying "Aieeeee" instead of just
- smiling and casually reaching for the ripcord.
-
- REALISM, WE WANT REALISM! No sugar-coated video game
- ejections!
-

Then the next thing you wanted is burning body parts from disintergrating warplanes and flocks of buffalos fro you to strafe and add to your blood fetish.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:51 AM
Dexmeister wrote:
- Yah, whenever I see him go through the plane and
- then release his chute it's so fake. I want to see
- bloody decapitations where the blood shoots all over
- the plane, then you should be able to zoom in on him
- as he flutters lifelessly to the ground and you
- should be able to see a blood trail as his heart
- continues to pump blood through his gaping jugular
- vein.
-
- Also, if the rear stabilizers go through his torso,
- SO BE IT! Let's see what the sorry SOB had for
- dinner? I want to see that corn flying out of his
- stomach! I want to see his coffee and whiskey soaked
- liver! I want to see intestines wrap around the
- rudder! Bring it on!
-
- And if the pilot ejects from a burning canopy, I
- want to see those goggles melt onto his face! I want
- to see the skin flake away revealing flesh fragments
- over bones. I want to see him grasping for his
- burning hair and saying "Aieeeee" instead of just
- smiling and casually reaching for the ripcord.
-
- REALISM, WE WANT REALISM! No sugar-coated video game
- ejections!

Unfortunately, there are some in this forum that have seen the ravages of war mate. It's not a pretty site. Best leave this kinda crude humor at home /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:02 AM
That was well said. I would like to see his teeth and lipps get smashed in, with Realisc blood spraying over his face when his head hits the tail of the plane.
This way crashing or bailing out would be more enjoyable, could evan take a shot of it and email it or post it.

lol,lol, and lol.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:18 AM
there are reports of tiger tanks being destroted after being hit from above by body parts

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:49 AM
After you seen a pile of bodies or a maimed human you will not want to see another. Crushed bones and blood spurting is for some other sim. The look of burned flesh and hair is guaranteed to ruturn your dinner. Lips burn first. People lose body parts and live to see the horror before shock can set in. The smell of blood is sickening.
I could live with a little blood splatter once in a while but no major gore. I was in Desert Storm, Thunder, ThunderII and Fox. So spare me the flashbacks.
As for the bailing out, I do think it looks kind of fake but I dont focus on it. Its not as important. I was a paratrooper. If you make the bailout realistic, you can cut your survibability down to one fourth of your bailouts.
I noticed a little bounce of the elevator once. I think its funny when you bail out and the plane explodes killing you. Also and best of all, when you bail and your chute opens then callapses from the explosion of your plane. Really makes me laugh my butt off.

Maico

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:58 AM
h009291 wrote:
-Unfortunately, there are some in this forum that have seen -the ravages of war mate. It's not a pretty site. Best leave -this kinda crude humor at home.


Maico_249th wrote:
- After you seen a pile of bodies or a maimed human
- you will not want to see another. Crushed bones and
- blood spurting is for some other sim. The look of
- burned flesh and hair is guaranteed to ruturn your
- dinner. Lips burn first. People lose body parts and
- live to see the horror before shock can set in. The
- smell of blood is sickening.
- I could live with a little blood splatter once in
- a while but no major gore. I was in Desert Storm,
- Thunder, ThunderII and Fox. So spare me the
- flashbacks.
-
- As for the bailing out, I do think it looks kind
- of fake but I dont focus on it. Its not as
- important. I was a paratrooper. If you make the
- bailout realistic, you can cut your survibability
- down to one fourth of your bailouts.
-
- I noticed a little bounce of the elevator once. I
- think its funny when you bail out and the plane
- explodes killing you. Also and best of all, when
- you bail and your chute opens then callapses from
- the explosion of your plane. Really makes me laugh
- my butt off.
-
- Maico

That certainly changes my view on this whole blood/'realism' bussiness. Makes me feel like an ignorant little bastard. Thanks for the poke, guys. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Reminds me of a thing I said a good while back in an Iraq war thread, which was rather strong. Posted that without thinking and should have said sorry back then. (edit: Actually, I shouldn't have posted that back then at all.)
HeavyD, you reacted pretty strongly to it, understandably, going from the things I "know" about your background. Sorry mate. And sorry to all the rest that has taken offense to that post.

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Message Edited on 07/02/0310:59AM by Sigi_di_Capri

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 11:17 AM
And so have we all our little pet peeves with the game /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif but I do agree that the bailing out isn't always executed right.

But what are you doing bailing out! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 12:15 PM
Bearcat99 wrote:
- The way the pilot falls through the plane when he
- bails.

So, don't bail out /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif . Just kidding.

Fly fast, stay high, shoot to kill.

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 02:07 PM
Sorry if I offended anyone with my callous remarks. I actually don't mind how bailouts are in FB and shouldn't have made light of how it was in real life, which unfortunately some of you have seen. I'll dedicate my prose to less touchy issues.



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 03:09 PM
I am not offended. I think everyone is entitled to thier oppinion. I expressed mine. I seen enough gore. Once I attacked a convoy in FB and saw them men running. It shocked me. I felt like I was back in the desert. But I got a hold of myself. Its just a game. I guess I just dont want to see major Gore. That is all

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 03:15 PM
Just so the other side of the fence has a chance to comment.

I've seen my fair share of nasties in life.

Flying Helicopters usually means that sooner or later you will see something that makes you gag.

Having said that, I would prefer that this sim include everything. If that means gore then so be it. The game starts with gore set by default to off. Ok, so if you want it then you turn it on.

If it isn't for you then so be it.

I wish the jumps looked better and I for one would like to see blood on the windscreen.

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michapma
07-02-2003, 03:52 PM
I remember reading somewhere—I think in the pilot's notes&mdash;that in the P-39 all you had to do was open that door and lean and you were sucked out of the canopy. I think that normal procedure is to bail out when the aircraft is in stable flight. There were also many occasions where the cockpit wouldn't open due to airframe damage. Might not always have been up to the pilot about when to bail...

I've noticed that the pilot waits different amounts of time before bailing, so there must be an algorithm for some conditions before being able to jump out. He also wouldn't gradually drift away from the plane, he's much less aerodynamic. I'd rather see him be pulled quickly away from the plane than see some kind of collision detector.

Mike

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:03 PM
also make the canopies open like the real thing while your at it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:05 PM
If canopies don't open in FB, I doubt they did in real life /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:08 PM
In order to avoid that you must fly <u>very fast</u>.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:12 PM
Dexmeister wrote:
- Yah, whenever I see him go through the plane and
- then release his chute it's so fake. I want to see
- bloody decapitations where the blood shoots all over
- the plane, then you should be able to zoom in on him
- as he flutters lifelessly to the ground and you
- should be able to see a blood trail as his heart
- continues to pump blood through his gaping jugular
- vein.
-
- Also, if the rear stabilizers go through his torso,
- SO BE IT! Let's see what the sorry SOB had for
- dinner? I want to see that corn flying out of his
- stomach! I want to see his coffee and whiskey soaked
- liver! I want to see intestines wrap around the
- rudder! Bring it on!
-
- And if the pilot ejects from a burning canopy, I
- want to see those goggles melt onto his face! I want
- to see the skin flake away revealing flesh fragments
- over bones. I want to see him grasping for his
- burning hair and saying "Aieeeee" instead of just
- smiling and casually reaching for the ripcord.
-
- REALISM, WE WANT REALISM! No sugar-coated video game
- ejections!
-

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:14 PM
crazyivan1970 wrote:
-
- /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
-


Hey, I was bored and insensitive, okay? I deleted it when I realized some people rightfully don't see humour in rudders jammed by intestines or gaping, gushing jugular wounds /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:20 PM
LOL Dex...but i like your idea /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:22 PM
Actually, in retrospect I think my idea was ignorantly morbid and tasteless... Ah well...



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:23 PM
Dex,

The quote will always bite you../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif It's a fecking hobby of some guys to quote everything.

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:24 PM
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"We make war that we may live in peace."

Aristotle

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 06:26 PM
Dexmeister wrote:
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-
-
- Hey, I was bored and insensitive, okay? I deleted it
- when I realized some people rightfully don't see
- humour in rudders jammed by intestines or gaping,
- gushing jugular wounds

Classy move Dexmeister .....kinda pu$$yfied but classy..LOL

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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 07:23 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- Dex,
-
- The quote will always bite you../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif It's a fecking hobby of some
- guys to quote everything.
-
-
- Da Buzz


Huh? What?

Oh ... Sorry. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif



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XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 09:38 PM
The early Hurricane and Spitfire pilots were told to open the canopy, release their harness and then flip the plane onto it's back so that they dropped out. Parachutes were fairly new to the RAF at that point, they previously believed that parachutes would make the pilots cowardly and liable to ditch the aircraft!

XyZspineZyX
07-02-2003, 10:22 PM
skip the blood and gore, let's just have so the pilot can
hit the stabilizer and then swear a lot. like this:

Plane is shot to pieces

Pilot bails

Pilot hits tail with his right arm

Pilot holds wounded arm, swears and curses at the one who
invented stabilizers. "I hope that a$$hat who invented
stabilizers had hairy children, too many toes" etc, etc...


Research must be done on swearing, and voice packs recorded/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-03-2003, 07:12 AM
And if the pilot in question is hit in the fragile parts by one of the stabilizers, I'd say there should be the sound of churchbells being rung.

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