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mole_boy
08-07-2005, 11:47 PM

mole_boy
08-07-2005, 11:47 PM

FritzGryphon
08-07-2005, 11:49 PM
IBTL!

wayno7777
08-07-2005, 11:56 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FritzGryphon:
IBTL! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

DO-217Z http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

fordfan25
08-08-2005, 12:02 AM
lol....spit fire... no such thing. clown plane says he http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

ClnlSandersLite
08-08-2005, 12:06 AM
Probably the british cannon varients. Assuming they're in there. They where admitidly rare, but nonethless, present.

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 12:14 AM
&lt;fom reliable sources&gt;

Spit pilots bad teeth.

&lt;/from reliable sources&gt;

ClnlSandersLite
08-08-2005, 12:22 AM
Yeah, you'll probably think the luft's fear of the spit pilot's bad teeth is overmodled.

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 01:04 AM
With such teeth no fear is overmodelled. Too much bottom sniffing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

MEGILE
08-08-2005, 05:33 AM
Not having a Focke Wulf.

Pirschjaeger
08-08-2005, 05:52 AM
What will Hristo complain about in Bob?

Hmmmm, what will Gibbage be working on? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Fritz

SeaNorris
08-08-2005, 06:00 AM
Hurricane- Seen as it got the most kills out of it and the Spit, he will complain that Oleg is biased to the reds and hates the blue team http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 06:11 AM
With Hurricanes only around, a Bf 110 will look like a Focke Wulf.

110 outruns, outdives, outguns and of course - outranges the Hurri.

The only thing that worries me will be whines of Hurri pilots about overmodeled 110 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

SeaNorris
08-08-2005, 06:18 AM
Hang on, if its true the Hurricane was a higher scorer in the BoB, it owned the Bf-110, becasue it was poor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 06:27 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaNorris:
Hang on, if its true the Hurricane was a higher scorer in the BoB, it owned the Bf-110, becasue it was poor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Then we have a bet !

How about I state my K/D will be 10/1 in Bf-110 vs Hurricanes and you will whine about it ?

Black Sheep
08-08-2005, 06:52 AM
Hurricanes were responsible for two out of every three downed Luftwaffe birds during the campaign; of course, a great number of these (if not the majority) would have been bombers rather than 109E's / 110's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 07:01 AM
With historical availability of planes introduced into BoB you will not fly anything except Hurricanes anyway, with an odd Spit here and there.

All this while Blue players will have no problem in getting a Bf 109E to fly.

Me predicts quite some whining about this little issue.

BSS_CUDA
08-08-2005, 08:00 AM
What will Hristos complain about in BoB?

the fact that he can no longer whine about the P-38 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The question should really be what won't Hristo whine about in BOB.

I think in reality Hristo won't know what to whine about in BOB, that is until Kurfurst starts whinning then all bets are off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Vipez-
08-08-2005, 08:11 AM
I Can't wait to own some Hurri Is with my 110C ih BoB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Besides, if we forget the vastly undermodelled turn rate of current 110G in IL2/FB, the turn rates are infact quite close to each other.. BF110G had about 22 seconds, BF110 about 20-21 seconds, so it's not lagging behind the Hurricane in turn rate that much, when you think of it.. 110G in game has about 33 seconds http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif where it looses is the roll rate, but why get in rolling scissors, when you can outrun the Hurri http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Spit I is offcourse different story, but fortunalety there are four times more Hurris, than Spits http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

stelr
08-08-2005, 08:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hristo_:
With historical availability of planes introduced into BoB you will not fly anything except Hurricanes anyway, with an odd Spit here and there.

All this while Blue players will have no problem in getting a Bf 109E to fly.


Me predicts quite some whining about this little issue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Ahhh...don't think you want to go there M8. Unless of course, you wish to invoke "historical accuracy" in the current sim. Oops, there goes all the TA-152s that seem to flock to the fight. And while the FW DM is porked, it is the odd 109 that strays into the fight, while "historically accurate" purists seem to all grab late war 190s and TA's.

Of course, if this "historical accuracy" were introduced, I don't think there is enough cheese in Germany to meet the demand.

v/r
Stel

lbhskier37
08-08-2005, 08:16 AM
I'm sure Hristo will find something, but what will copperhead and hayateace complain about since there will be no overpowered mk108 or porked american planes http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

SeaNorris
08-08-2005, 08:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hristo_:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by SeaNorris:
Hang on, if its true the Hurricane was a higher scorer in the BoB, it owned the Bf-110, becasue it was poor http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
you will whine about it ? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No

USAF_pilot
08-08-2005, 08:43 AM
In BOB Copperwhiner , hayatenoob and leadwhiner will have no work to do.Of course you forget all 3 are merged into a single entity known as an Amiwhiner

Lucius_Esox
08-08-2005, 08:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">With historical availability of planes introduced into BoB you will not fly anything except Hurricanes anyway, with an odd Spit here and there.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course, words of wisdom here.

Lucius_Esox
08-08-2005, 08:51 AM
Does this mean you are "scared" of the Spit then

hop2002
08-08-2005, 09:23 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">With historical availability of planes introduced into BoB you will not fly anything except Hurricanes anyway, with an odd Spit here and there </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Well, about 1 Spitfire for every 2 Hurricanes, anyway.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">All this while Blue players will have no problem in getting a Bf 109E to fly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, but which E?

With historical availabilty of planes, about 40% of 109Es will be 109E-1s, with 4 machine guns and no cannon. (44% of losses in July, dropping to 36% in October, according to Hooton)

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 09:26 AM
I'm scared of anything you don't get to fly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

hop2002
08-08-2005, 09:26 AM
Seriously, I think the biggest whines will be the performance of the Spitfire, and to some extent the Hurricane, when running on 100 octane fuel (if it's modelled as it should be)

NorrisMcWhirter
08-08-2005, 09:54 AM
One thing is for sure..the amout of whining overall will fall significantly to the levels prior to certain Western aircraft being introduced

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Ta,
Norris

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 10:19 AM
OK, let me see. In BoB, I will complain about:

1. Lack of overconfident "we won the war" USAAF types, believing John Wayne movies when turning in their overweight crates on the deck. There is little to compare with feeling of satisfaction in shooting those down. In fact, they are the sole reason why I prefer WF over EF.

2. see above

3. see above

4. Lack of P-38 megathreads which try to convince you that black is actually white and viceversa.

5. Lack of " Oleg nerfed the .50 cals" whining.

6. Lack of Fw 190 DM whining.

7. Lack of Bf 109 prop pitch exploit whining.

8. Lack of Bf 109 trim assisted insta bat turn whining.

9. Lack of .50 cal can kill Tigers threads.

10. Lack of "I want my Bearcat" threads.

NorrisMcWhirter
08-08-2005, 10:23 AM
You forgot two:

11. Lack of P47-N whining.

12. Lack of some late model Corsair whining (which one? I have absolutely no interest whatsoever in late war p*ssing contest UFOs so cannot remember the model number)

Ta,
Norris

BSS_CUDA
08-08-2005, 10:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hristo_:
OK, let me see. In BoB, I will complain about:

1. Lack of overconfident "we won the war" USAAF types, believing John Wayne movies when turning in their overweight crates on the deck. There is little to compare with feeling of satisfaction in shooting those down. In fact, they are the sole reason why I prefer WF over EF.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OPPS thats right the FW won the war sorry Hristo we forgot, http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

UHM by the way just exactly what war did it win? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

USAF_pilot
08-08-2005, 10:53 AM
Hristo you hit the nail on the head when the poster above me answered http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

MEGILE
08-08-2005, 11:30 AM
Best thing about BoB: no Lag inducing Me-262 to spoil may fun as I heroically swoop down on my Nazi enemy, and send them to their doom!

ploughman
08-08-2005, 01:05 PM
With any luck it'll be the lack of a " http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif" smiley on the forums. His ability to punctuate will be severely effected and after a brief post concerning under-modelled smilies he'll go fetal.

JG5_UnKle
08-08-2005, 01:22 PM
I think the Fw-190 will be in BoB, if Kanalfront operations are covered into 1941 then it will be there.

Happy days for JG26 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

MEGILE
08-08-2005, 01:26 PM
1941, you nice?

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Daiichidoku
08-08-2005, 01:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
Best thing about BoB: no Lag inducing Me-262 to spoil may fun as I heroically swoop down on my Nazi enemy, and send them to their doom! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



262s do not cause lag, it was the Me 163 Komet that did, and even it doesnt anymore since 3.0

MEGILE
08-08-2005, 03:10 PM
Look we have been over this before.. I have shown the tracks, and the proof.

Dtools4fools
08-08-2005, 09:23 PM
Historical Rarity. What a great little feature would this be. With a simple little switch to off it for those who do not like it.
****

Badsight.
08-08-2005, 11:18 PM
now this here is funny http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hristo_:
OK, let me see. In BoB, I will complain about:

1. Lack of overconfident "we won the war" USAAF types, believing John Wayne movies when turning in their overweight crates on the deck. There is little to compare with feeling of satisfaction in shooting those down. In fact, they are the sole reason why I prefer WF over EF.

2. see above

3. see above. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>but hey ! i like the Bearcat ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Badsight.
08-08-2005, 11:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Megile:
Look we have been over this before.. I have shown the tracks, and the proof. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>dont play Poker with this man , hes a pro

Hristo_
08-08-2005, 11:50 PM
109 seems to be almost spot on since 4.01, right up there with its historical reputation.

Finally it makes sense to fly the 109. Kills have still to be earned though, as it is not an easy plane to master. But overall, I like it more than ever.

Sometimes I almost want to be bounced by P-51, just to reverse on it and shoot it down. Even Spit pilots are in for trouble, unless they really know what they are doing.

Thanks, Oleg ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

FI-Aflak
08-08-2005, 11:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hristo_:
109 seems to be almost spot on since 4.01, right up there with its historical reputation.

Finally it makes sense to fly the 109. Kills have still to be earned though, as it is not an easy plane to master. But overall, I like it more than ever.

Sometimes I almost want to be bounced by P-51, just to reverse on it and shoot it down. Even Spit pilots are in for trouble, unless they really know what they are doing.

Thanks, Oleg ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The current 109 we have isn't a hard plane to master. Anyone with experience can clean house with it now.

Hristo_
08-09-2005, 01:45 AM
Bf 109 in this sim takes a better than average pilot for average results and an Experte for great results.

Right now it is just as it was in real life. A decent machine, but requiring a gifted pilot to make it shine.

It is a challenging and rewarding plane. Taking one up into the sky full of late war Allied rides takes guts and landing your sorties takes great skill. And rightly so.

Again, thanks Oleg and team for making the Messerschmitt right.

Pirschjaeger
08-09-2005, 03:13 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hristo_:
Bf 109 in this sim takes a better than average pilot for average results and an Experte for great results.

Right now it is just as it was in real life. A decent machine, but requiring a gifted pilot to make it shine.

It is a challenging and rewarding plane. Taking one up into the sky full of late war Allied rides takes guts and landing your sorties takes great skill. And rightly so.

Again, thanks Oleg and team for making the Messerschmitt right. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you really Hristo? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

That's the first serious thread I've read from you. Good one at that. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Fritz

Grue_
08-09-2005, 03:41 AM
BoB dogfight servers will just be Spits vs 109s in a historically inaccurate scenario where the 109s will have lots of fuel and no bombers to protect. This will lead to lots of pointless comparisons to statistics from the actual BoB and complaining. As usual.

Co-Op servers will represent far more realistic scenarios where the 109 pilots will have a hard job to protect the bombers and make it home.
Looking forward to it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Regarding the comment that most 109's will only have machine guns, so will Spits! I'd prefer to see the BoB machine guns (red and blue) to be a lot more effective than they are in the IL-2 series and for the cannons to be less accurate.

csThor
08-09-2005, 03:55 AM
Ahem Grue ... it wasn't always just bomber escort. Sometimes a few bombers were just baits while the indirect and direct escort was waiting for the RAF (I remember an instant where a Bombergruppe of some 40 planes were covered by nearly 600 Bf 109's and Bf 110's).

hop2002 - I really really hope for all relevant versions of the Emils (and I'm already lobbying for them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). Just having one version would be a bit ... boring http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Grue_
08-09-2005, 04:01 AM
I agree csThor, there will be some 'happy times' http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was just trying to draw a distinct comparison between df and co-op servers.