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Bremspropeller
10-11-2011, 01:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jphYnNJQAnw

I just saw an engine plus cowling of this thingy at Berlin's "Deutsches Technik Museum" this past week-end, and I gotta say "jebus!".

It's the only airplane I know with a cowling heavier than the actual engine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The Cowling is made out of 2-3mm thick plates of steel http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

Luno13
10-11-2011, 08:31 PM
Considering how the thing looks like it barely gets up into the air, I wonder if our in-game version is a bit over-powered. The Il-2 is a very big plane and has tons of armor too.

On topic, it's amazing to see one of these flying again. It's about time, I think, considering how many were produced and their overall historical significance. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Apparently this bird still has a few of the original bullet holes it earned in battle.

TipsyTed
10-12-2011, 12:53 AM
Yup IL-2 carried more armour than an A-10 does. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Tully__
10-12-2011, 04:50 AM
Originally posted by Luno13:
Considering how the thing looks like it barely gets up into the air, I wonder if our in-game version is a bit over-powered. The Il-2 is a very big plane and has tons of armor too.
He used a technique I've never seen anyone use in the game - 3 point takeoff. His lift from the runway must have been at close to absolute minimum airspeed so climb performance would be rather a lot less than spectacular until he'd accelerated closer to best climb speed.

Woke_Up_Dead
10-12-2011, 11:11 AM
At 2:26 they show the rear gun, anyone know what the short and long tubes above and below the barrel are?

Luno13
10-12-2011, 12:10 PM
Based on my limited knowledge of guns, those could be tubes which siphon off the exhaust gasses to push another round into the firing chamber.




He used a technique I've never seen anyone use in the game - 3 point takeoff. His lift from the runway must have been at close to absolute minimum airspeed so climb performance would be rather a lot less than spectacular until he'd accelerated closer to best climb speed.


I've never seen or heard of a 3-point take-off. I haven't flown a tail-dragger though (that's what they call a real plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) If it's close to stall speed, that seems risky in this unique aircraft.

Tully__
10-12-2011, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Woke_Up_Dead:
At 2:26 they show the rear gun, anyone know what the short and long tubes above and below the barrel are?
The long one is the gas piston, it siphons off some of the propellant gas from the barrel to drive the action loading the next round. The short one looks like it's either the action return spring, or a shock absorber to smooth out the gun action making aiming easier.


Originally posted by Luno13:
I've never seen or heard of a 3-point take-off. I haven't flown a tail-dragger though (that's what they call a real plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) If it's close to stall speed, that seems risky in this unique aircraft.
The attitude of the IL2 on its wheels is not as steep as many tail draggers so it's probably not that close to stall speed. It's still a steep enough angle of attack to be well below best rate of climb speed (V<sub>Y</sub>) though, it's probably pretty close to best angle of climb (V<sub>X</sub>) or designed lift off speed (V<sub>LOF</sub>).

wheelsup_cavu
10-15-2011, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Luno13:
Based on my limited knowledge of guns, those could be tubes which siphon off the exhaust gasses to push another round into the firing chamber.


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He used a technique I've never seen anyone use in the game - 3 point takeoff. His lift from the runway must have been at close to absolute minimum airspeed so climb performance would be rather a lot less than spectacular until he'd accelerated closer to best climb speed.


I've never seen or heard of a 3-point take-off. I haven't flown a tail-dragger though (that's what they call a real plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) If it's close to stall speed, that seems risky in this unique aircraft. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
A 3 point takeoff was the preferred method in a B-17.

Takeoff Training:
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(The 13:00 minute mark is where the explantion of why the three point takeoff is used starts.)
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Very cool video of the restored IL-2 Brems. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


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Tully__
10-15-2011, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by wheelsup_cavu:

(The 13:00 minute mark is where the explantion of why the three point takeoff is used starts.)
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Same logic applies for the IL2 which was frequently loaded to gross weight limits on short, hastily prepared strips.

joeap
10-19-2011, 07:35 AM
Amazing!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

Luno13
10-24-2011, 10:37 PM
Some more videos from 1C, guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...XFNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUYVNRXFNg&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...d2G8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVz-Yxrd2G8&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...luQs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rrc29luQs&feature=related)

Such a plane!

WTE_Galway
10-25-2011, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Luno13:
Some more videos from 1C, guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...XFNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUYVNRXFNg&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...d2G8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVz-Yxrd2G8&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...luQs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rrc29luQs&feature=related)

Such a plane!

You also gotta love those Russian concrete slab runways ... perfect match for the plane.

BillyTheKid_22
11-01-2011, 05:47 PM
lol and coolest! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

wheelsup_cavu
11-12-2011, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Luno13:
Some more videos from 1C, guys!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...XFNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUYVNRXFNg&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...d2G8&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVz-Yxrd2G8&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...luQs&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2rrc29luQs&feature=related)

Such a plane!
Great videos. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


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