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pop_sot
09-27-2010, 11:50 AM
Hey Friends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I was among those guys who had been the massive admirers of Assassins Creed since the release of its first trailer 4 years back maybe but were let-down by the performance after actually playing.

I highly disliked AC 1 and felt that its never my type but I couldn't ignore the massive budget which the development team has put into the sequel of it. I was again impressed AC 2 Trailers and shots so after getting PS3, Now Finally I have purchased AC 2. I have completed its first sequence and finding it quite fine so far infact very much interesting. I also heard on the web that AC 2 is better than AC 1 in many aspects.

I thought why not ask the hardcore fanbase here.

pop_sot
09-27-2010, 11:50 AM
Hey Friends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I was among those guys who had been the massive admirers of Assassins Creed since the release of its first trailer 4 years back maybe but were let-down by the performance after actually playing.

I highly disliked AC 1 and felt that its never my type but I couldn't ignore the massive budget which the development team has put into the sequel of it. I was again impressed AC 2 Trailers and shots so after getting PS3, Now Finally I have purchased AC 2. I have completed its first sequence and finding it quite fine so far infact very much interesting. I also heard on the web that AC 2 is better than AC 1 in many aspects.

I thought why not ask the hardcore fanbase here.

SlimeDynamiteD
09-27-2010, 11:52 AM
I'd say yes.

PlagueDoctor357
09-27-2010, 02:24 PM
Everything from the speech to the kill cam was better on AC1.

SBRedFlag
09-27-2010, 02:26 PM
AC! was better, definitely. Both excelled in their own different ways, but I enjoyed AC1 lots more.

Oatkeeper
09-27-2010, 03:34 PM
Ac1 > AC2
in most ways except mission structure and amount of tools (though AC2 didnt let you "play" with the tools much)

I could write a long paper comparing the games but I wont, the topic has been beaten around before, and frankly im feeling lazy about it.

P3rsianPrincess
09-27-2010, 03:44 PM
i think AC2 is better because it isnt as repeditive and i feel like i can understand Ezio better as a character then Altair because we knew more of his background, and personality. but in The first game i thought Altair was more of a phantom because he wasnt very distinct as a person. I also liked the story line of AC2 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

phil.llllll
09-27-2010, 04:01 PM
For me it's - main character: AC1 Combat: AC1, Story and general characters: AC1, and AC2 for variety (more missions and such) and some cool new moves/features. Overall I'd have to say AC1 was a more immersive than the second and in the end it would get my vote - though in no way do I think it was far superior so I'm not voting.

EzioAssassin51
09-27-2010, 04:25 PM
Some threads about this already exist, use the search function next time pleae http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

pop_sot
09-28-2010, 11:49 AM
@EzioAssassin! Its a Poll in its own existence friend and more like in a different way. I am getting very excited after reading all the above comments. Please keep on voting and comments. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

GarethNelson
09-28-2010, 12:01 PM
AC2 made the story a much more core element of the gameplay and mixed up the missions so it wasn't all "do 3 investigations, kill target, go to next one".

AC2 feels like an actual adventure if that makes sense, rather than a game with extremely linear gameplay.

extrememuffin
09-28-2010, 12:07 PM
i definatlly prefered AC2 over AC

AubreyWilborn
09-28-2010, 06:12 PM
I prefer AC2 over AC1. The story, game content, and everything else are far superior.

Keksus
09-28-2010, 06:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The story, game content, and everything else are far superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The graphics aren't ... the kill cam neither. And there are some things which are subjective. Like the atmosphere and the setting for example.

SBRedFlag
09-28-2010, 07:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The story, game content, and everything else are far superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The graphics aren't ... the kill cam neither. And there are some things which are subjective. Like the atmosphere and the setting for example. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY.
Look at the level of detail in this screenshot from AC1: http://img.gamespot.com/gamesp...071113_screen003.jpg (http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2007/316/reviews/930278_20071113_screen003.jpg)

and compare it to the graphics of this screenshot of AC2: http://i4.photobucket.com/albu...enshin9/_MG_1918.png (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Kenshin9/_MG_1918.png)

There's no comparison.

Storywise, that's mostly subjective, but AC2's story was much more generic and cliche, while AC1 had a totally unique concept.
Game content? That's also debatable. There were several essays' worth about that written in a previous topic: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...1069024/m/2281008558 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/2281008558)

Jack-Reacher
09-28-2010, 07:26 PM
Story, I liked AC story a lot, left a lot to interpret at the end. I dont like how AC2 turned it around so much.

The confessions are lacking in this game, they are very short and leave no room for misinterpretation, they blatantly state they are definatley the bad guys.
Also I had barely any preparation for the assassinations in AC2, most of the time I stumbled in blindly and got seen instantly. Other than that, everything else is better

afrothunder520
09-28-2010, 07:51 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
[QUOTE]The story, game content, and everything else are far superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The graphics aren't ... the kill cam neither. And there are some things which are subjective. Like the atmosphere and the setting for example. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY.
Look at the level of detail in this screenshot from AC1: http://img.gamespot.com/gamesp...071113_screen003.jpg (http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2007/316/reviews/930278_20071113_screen003.jpg)

and compare it to the graphics of this screenshot of AC2: http://i4.photobucket.com/albu...enshin9/_MG_1918.png (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Kenshin9/_MG_1918.png)

There's no comparison.

Storywise, that's mostly subjective, but AC2's story was much more generic and cliche, while AC1 had a totally unique concept.
Game content? That's also debatable. There were several essays' worth about that written in a previous topic
look at altiars knee its in the clothes("details

GarethNelson
09-28-2010, 08:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by afrothunder520:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
[QUOTE]The story, game content, and everything else are far superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The graphics aren't ... the kill cam neither. And there are some things which are subjective. Like the atmosphere and the setting for example. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY.
Look at the level of detail in this screenshot from AC1: http://img.gamespot.com/gamesp...071113_screen003.jpg (http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2007/316/reviews/930278_20071113_screen003.jpg)

and compare it to the graphics of this screenshot of AC2: http://i4.photobucket.com/albu...enshin9/_MG_1918.png (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Kenshin9/_MG_1918.png)

There's no comparison.

Storywise, that's mostly subjective, but AC2's story was much more generic and cliche, while AC1 had a totally unique concept.
Game content? That's also debatable. There were several essays' worth about that written in a previous topic
look at altiars knee its in the clothes("details </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Cliche? In some parts perhaps, but what isn't these days?
Shadowy secret organisation doing bad things™ is cliche, true

But...... an alien computer buried beneath the vatican which warns someone in the future via genetic memory about an upcoming geological disaster? That's cliche? Seems rather unique to me.

Pretty much all fiction is composed of smaller elements (some call them tropes) that are cliched. It's the way in which they're used and blended together which makes the work special.

SBRedFlag
09-28-2010, 08:07 PM
Well, I meant all the plot elements that were unique to AC2 were cliche. All the PoE stuff was introduced in the first game, they only expanded on it in the second. And anyway, that was one (1) scene of the whole 15-20 hour game. AC1's story was all unique, and awesome.

phil.llllll
09-28-2010, 08:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GarethNelson:


Cliche? In some parts perhaps, but what isn't these days?
Shadowy secret organisation doing bad things™ is cliche, true

But...... an alien computer buried beneath the vatican which warns someone in the future via genetic memory about an upcoming geological disaster? That's cliche? Seems rather unique to me.

Pretty much all fiction is composed of smaller elements (some call them tropes) that are cliched. It's the way in which they're used and blended together which makes the work special. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You make a good point. My problem with it however wasn't necessarily that it was too cliche but a lot of it was poorly done. For instance, a lot of the truth files were so bad it was almost laughable. They made the mistake of giving too much away instead of being subtle. They really could have summed the whole backstory up as - everyone in power is evil and trying to control the world, while the good guys (assassins) try to stop them. And really it took a lot away from what the first game established - that the world isn't so black and white - by giving short shrift to the motivations of those shown to be "evil".

ACfreak357
09-28-2010, 08:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by afrothunder520:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
[QUOTE]The story, game content, and everything else are far superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The graphics aren't ... the kill cam neither. And there are some things which are subjective. Like the atmosphere and the setting for example. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY.
Look at the level of detail in this screenshot from AC1: http://img.gamespot.com/gamesp...071113_screen003.jpg (http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2007/316/reviews/930278_20071113_screen003.jpg)

and compare it to the graphics of this screenshot of AC2: http://i4.photobucket.com/albu...enshin9/_MG_1918.png (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Kenshin9/_MG_1918.png)

There's no comparison.

Storywise, that's mostly subjective, but AC2's story was much more generic and cliche, while AC1 had a totally unique concept.
Game content? That's also debatable. There were several essays' worth about that written in a previous topic
look at altiars knee its in the clothes("details </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the link for the AC1 screenshot Altair just kneed through his robe......dang he must have a killer knee.

Jack-Reacher
09-28-2010, 08:50 PM
Yeah I hated how the truth segments show that pretty much anyone who comes into power was either an assassin or a templar with a PoE

SBRedFlag
09-28-2010, 10:08 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ACfreak357:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by afrothunder520:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sbredflag:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Keksus:
[QUOTE]The story, game content, and everything else are far superior. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The graphics aren't ... the kill cam neither. And there are some things which are subjective. Like the atmosphere and the setting for example. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

EXACTLY.
Look at the level of detail in this screenshot from AC1: http://img.gamespot.com/gamesp...071113_screen003.jpg (http://img.gamespot.com/gamespot/images/2007/316/reviews/930278_20071113_screen003.jpg)

and compare it to the graphics of this screenshot of AC2: http://i4.photobucket.com/albu...enshin9/_MG_1918.png (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/Kenshin9/_MG_1918.png)

There's no comparison.

Storywise, that's mostly subjective, but AC2's story was much more generic and cliche, while AC1 had a totally unique concept.
Game content? That's also debatable. There were several essays' worth about that written in a previous topic
look at altiars knee its in the clothes("details </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the link for the AC1 screenshot Altair just kneed through his robe......dang he must have a killer knee. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, I was referencing the graphics QUALITY of the shots, but if you wanna discuss graphical glitches, AC2 somehow managed to get way more than AC1 had! The textures would pop-in at close distances, the grass would look plain until you were way up close, the walls lacked shadows until you moved towards it, and suddenly it all appeared. That is unforgivable for a game that is otherwise pretty excellent. Don't get me wrong, I love both games, but the first one takes the cake, imo.

BootBlade
09-28-2010, 11:47 PM
Whoa... To say that the graphical glitches of ACII are unforgivable is truly garbage. If you play games for graphics then why don't you go watch a movie. Ubisoft worked on developing the gameplay to being more diverse and layered than the previous outing, ACI. They focussed on completely giving the fans the features they wanted and more. If that's to mean to sacrifice a few good graphics then so be it. If this was a game with the graphical power of the PS2 I would still play it because it is truly a great game, and if you're gonna let graphics affect the way you play then that is your loss.

You should be thankful Ubisoft is really trying to please the fans and give them the wider AC Experience they want as I remember back on the forums a while back, when people were discussing DLC they wanted Multiplayer, Rome, Horses in Cities and so forth. And look what we're getting.

What I'm saying is is that developers that spend so much time focussing on graphics doesn't seem to mean a great game such as Final Fantasy XIII, whereas AC: Brotherhood is further improvements on gameplay of an already great game. Would you rather have the graphical improvements or the game improvements?

pop_sot
10-03-2010, 11:41 AM
I have completed thes sequence 2 of the game yesterday. Its coming along nicely so far.