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vocatx
07-18-2006, 09:52 AM
Sorry to hear about the fire, Tony. I don't know why they keep locking the thread. An explanation would be nice.

You said the fire was in a place that made pallets...as in wooden shipping pallets, I assume? As a firefighter I can tell you, that would be a VERY challenging fire to extinguish. Let us know how it turns out.

Here's a link to the original TWO threads:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/7571018364

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/1181047364

Nice photos, by the way.

vocatx
07-18-2006, 09:52 AM
Sorry to hear about the fire, Tony. I don't know why they keep locking the thread. An explanation would be nice.

You said the fire was in a place that made pallets...as in wooden shipping pallets, I assume? As a firefighter I can tell you, that would be a VERY challenging fire to extinguish. Let us know how it turns out.

Here's a link to the original TWO threads:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/7571018364

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/1181047364

Nice photos, by the way.

TheGozr
07-18-2006, 10:02 AM
Sorry man .. Take care.

The_JudderMan
07-18-2006, 10:04 AM
Sorry to hear of your incident taylortony.... spectacular if its not affecting you, but very worrying if you are near.
Hi vocatx....are you a UK firefighter?
It's what I do to earn a crust, and have spent much of the weekend at field,woodland and barn fires....too hot to be running around!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

WWMaxGunz
07-18-2006, 10:05 AM
Whatever mod is doing this should at least give THE FORUM MEMBERS AT LARGE an explanation.

Maybe the forum has been hacked? BC visited the last thread and had no problems with it.

stanford-ukded
07-18-2006, 10:13 AM
Aye, what's going on! Perhaps BC can check who's locking them?

justflyin
07-18-2006, 10:33 AM
Dux posted a great reason...it was a "flame" thread! lol

vocatx
07-18-2006, 10:50 AM
Judderman, I'm the chief of the volunteer fire department in a small community in Texas.

F6_Ace
07-18-2006, 11:10 AM
It wasn't a pallet fire - they were 'doing a Wicker man' and torching some heretics who suggested that the 190 view was incorrect.

On a more serious note, was that the one in Maidenhead?

slipBall
07-18-2006, 11:22 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gifIn viewing both locked thread's, the only thing that i found common in both, was the use of all cap's, in topic title http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif... Go figure!
I just wanted to say that, before this thread get's locked http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

tt
sorry you could not cook at the fire, as you seemed looking forward to... in your original post http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



Disrupt the flow of chat in chat rooms or within Software that include chat functionality with vulgar language, abusiveness, hitting the return key repeatedly or inputting large images so the screen goes by too fast to read, use of excessive shouting [all caps] in an attempt to disturb other users, or flooding [posting repetitive text].

LStarosta
07-18-2006, 12:42 PM
First your plane, now your village...

Sorry about your luck, mate. Hope everything turns out okay.

ploughman
07-18-2006, 12:46 PM
These guys were seen in the area.

http://www.newizv.ru/images/photos/other/20050126210812_4-VIKINGS.jpg

Also under investigation is a big hole, police are looking into it.

Capt.England
07-18-2006, 01:31 PM
Tunes to dance naked around fires to:-

Come on baby light my fire,
Firestarter,
Re-light my fire,
Disco inferno,
Ring of fire,
Hot stuff,

And one to stop the fire:-
Dancing naked in the rain.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

IBTL again? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

justflyin
07-18-2006, 01:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
These guys were seen in the area.

http://www.newizv.ru/images/photos/other/20050126210812_4-VIKINGS.jpg

Also under investigation is a big hole, police are looking into it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What's in your wallet?

Those guys reminded me of a Capital One Visa commercial. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

Capt_Pepper
07-18-2006, 02:04 PM
Tony.......truly hope you and loved ones are all okay along with all others. Please let us know.

The_JudderMan
07-18-2006, 02:55 PM
~S~ vocatx
I am a watch commander, looking after a small Worcestershire town in the middle of England. This is a busy time for us, nothing on the scale of the wildfires you guys get, but enough to stretch our resources!!
Our main business is the motorways and fast dual-carriageways (freeways?) that pass through our county - more RTCs than fires.
Best wishes to you and your Department http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Taylortony
07-18-2006, 03:31 PM
Yes, Thanks all the fire was damped down this morning............. the village has the main road which is a main arterial rd closed and still is.. about 3 other units went up and were destroyed...... The whole road has been closed off.... I have kept out of the way and not gone to look today, they have enough work on without busy bodies getting in their way...

Too all of you in the business of putting them out, they could not use much water on it (although there was 100 firemen involved) due to there being a main Electrical Substation on the site, (there used to be a power station next door 8 years ago until it was taken apart and sold to China !!!!) in addition to Overhead Pylons carrying power lines across the fire site. That was the explosions we heard as the lines went and dropped.... the reason the village is chopped in half is that the cables run across the main road further on and there is a scare one may fall across the road...... one already has fallen onto a parked unmanned police car.. hmmmm nice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

What really is frustrating is both posts have been locked with not even a polite reason........

Stupid thing is I could quite happily post a thread about the holocaust and millions of people being burnt, or pictures or a film of a ww2 plane getting shot down where people die, and you can tell by the damage that people are dying inside it and it would have been allowed but to post 3 lousey pictures of a fire which was a big item in my village where no one was injured and to have it locked without a reason is both sad and indicitive of the way the forum is heading of late......

perhaps they would have the unfeasibly large testicles to come out from behind their anonymity and explain why.......

Village life will go on and these things will be repaired etc, but if anything, spare a thought for the poor people who through no fault of their own doing, woke up this morning to find they probably no longer have a livelyhood... they are the ones my heart goes out too..

vocatx yes the site is some 4 acres in size and they were wooden shipping pallets, it is like a regional depot for used ones and new ones, they were stacked outside and I would say the stacks were some 80 ft high? about a house and a 1/2 in height.... they were big stacks to, can understand them being a bad thing to fight as they would be by their design drawing air into the centre to feed itself.... one fireman collapse with the heat and was treated on site, but no one was injured.

slipBall
07-18-2006, 03:40 PM
Happy to hear all are safe, no loss of life. I do hope all those in need, can find employment during this, their difficult time

steve_v
07-18-2006, 03:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by slipBall:
Happy to hear all are safe, no loss of life. I do hope all those in need, can find employment during this, their difficult time </div></BLOCKQUOTE>agreed. TT, it would be in everyone's best interest for you to PM the mods. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Taylortony
07-18-2006, 04:34 PM
well Steve as no one owned up to lockingit who the hell would I PM?

fraid I left my weegie board at work, so I can't ask the spirit world for a clue, and my crystal ball ain't what it used to be after that incident climbing over a gate... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

SeaFireLIV
07-18-2006, 04:47 PM
With the wether as hot as it is, this isn`t a major surprise. Hope the fire`s out, TT.

WWMaxGunz
07-18-2006, 05:08 PM
PM the mods you know of? Bearcat and Ivan?

Taylortony
07-18-2006, 06:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWMaxGunz:
PM the mods you know of? Bearcat and Ivan? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

To Quote Steve...

"it would be in everyone's best interest for you to PM the mods".

why would it be? surely an answer would be just as straight fwd... what they are indeed saying it would be in their best interests.....

not playing that game, would rather cease posting period.

Feathered_IV
07-18-2006, 06:08 PM
Sorry to hear about it too TT http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif . I wanted to say so before but missed my chance to get into the other two threads. Thanks Vocatx for starting this one http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

vocatx
07-18-2006, 06:57 PM
Glad to hear no one was seriously injured. It looks to be quite a fire. Sorry to know some may be displaced by it. A mountain of pallets stacked that high would be very hard to extinguish due to the reasons you stated.

The Judder Man, here's a look at our small fleet. We are a very rural area with no public water supply, so our apparatus us geared for wildland and water supply. We don't believe in fighting a fire from the ground except when absolutely necessary, as you can see. The Kiaser 6X6 can go just about anywhere, and our pumper tanker can haul 2500 gallons and deliver it at 1000 gallons per minute.

Thought you might like to see what we use. It's interesting to see the different methods and equipment used in different parts of the world. You guys keep safe.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/Vocatx/Voca1View1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/Vocatx/PICT0071.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/Vocatx/PICT0076.jpg

By the way, my wife isn't wearing her personal protective equipment in that picture. She's wearing her "I only stopped by to see what you were doing on my way to town, not have my picture taken" clothing. She's showing where the two "whip lines" are that we attack wildland fires with.

puhakka-GB
07-18-2006, 06:59 PM
Saw the fire last night. I'm a train driver based at Derby and saw the smoke pall. When I found out where it was no surprise really, been going past there for years seeing all those pallets and wondering when some bright herbert was going to set it on fire. Spent many utterly thrilling hours unloading coal trains in Donington though.

Enforcer572005
07-18-2006, 07:18 PM
I spent 10 yrs as a 911 dispatcher (a brit idea i believe) in the southern US, and I know what a pain in the keyster a huge fire like that is. Ive emptied out all 10 county fire stations before and just hoped nothing else happened.

when power lines get involved things get really hairy. You guys be extra alert around there, as those things tend to lay there and ambush you. Kids tend to just come outta nowhere and find those things to.

The_JudderMan
07-19-2006, 02:03 AM
Definately different kit and priorities to us...
If you are interested, here is a link to my Service, http://www.hwfire.org.uk/. I am stationed in the north-east of the county.

Take care.

Flying_Nutcase
07-19-2006, 03:20 AM
I suspect that whoever locked the thread has experienced a fire up close and personal. I witnessed a house fire a few months back and it was a real reality shock. Scary as hell, like the devil himself was whipping up a firestorm. Plus the sounds - cracking wood, crackling of burning wood, breaking glass, minor explosions, crying and screams of neighbours. We didn't know if anyone was still in the house and the thought of what they must have been going through if anyone was in there was stomach churning.

It ain't no laughing matter. I don't think it was the pictures that got the threads locked, it was probably the 'witty' comments about the situation. Again, I think the mod has been there and experienced that. In that light I can fully understand. No injustice done.

Bearcat99
07-19-2006, 09:13 AM
I didnt lock it.... it wasnt lockworthy IMO... the only reason why I didnt reopen it when I saw the second one locked was that this one was started. I have no clue... I usually post in threads I lock.... unless the thread is obviously begging for closure.

DuxCorvan
07-19-2006, 10:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Flying_Nutcase:
It ain't no laughing matter. I don't think it was the pictures that got the threads locked, it was probably the 'witty' comments about the situation. Again, I think the mod has been there and experienced that. In that light I can fully understand. No injustice done. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personal feelings about fire certainly justifies someone not opening it to read or see, if he/she finds it personally disturbing, or brings painful memories of a personal tragedy.

It does not justify, though, the locking of a completely innocent thread to avoid all the others to see. TT was living in some drammatic, tense moments, right in the middle of news, and he just wanted to share it with us. There are more OT-ish threads running here in GD, without a problem. As for the 'witty' comments, well, I made an easy joke, not directed at this tragedy at all -I have had myself terrible experiences with fire, including a very close personal loss- but at the discutible decision of locking it.

If you find it too hard to see, it's as simple as not clicking on the thread anymore.

Capt.England
07-19-2006, 12:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Flying_Nutcase:
It ain't no laughing matter. I don't think it was the pictures that got the threads locked, it was probably the 'witty' comments about the situation. Again, I think the mod has been there and experienced that. In that light I can fully understand. No injustice done. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personal feelings about fire certainly justifies someone not opening it to read or see, if he/she finds it personally disturbing, or brings painful memories of a personal tragedy.

It does not justify, though, the locking of a completely innocent thread to avoid all the others to see. TT was living in some drammatic, tense moments, right in the middle of news, and he just wanted to share it with us. There are more OT-ish threads running here in GD, without a problem. As for the 'witty' comments, well, I made an easy joke, not directed at this tragedy at all -I have had myself terrible experiences with fire, including a very close personal loss- but at the discutible decision of locking it.

If you find it too hard to see, it's as simple as not clicking on the thread anymore. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

I had a very bad accident 3 years ago that nearly left me in a wheelchair. It was to do with a car door opening on me as I cycled past going down hill. Perhaps the person who locked the two threads should PM Tony to tell him why they were locked as if it was because of something bad that effected the mod then I am sure Tony would of just deleted the two threads and put it down to dodgy forum software.

BTW, can all threads about legs, cars, women, doors, and pandas please be locked as it gives me flash backs to my accident http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Taylortony
07-19-2006, 03:33 PM
Radio reports arresting a 21 year old today in connection with it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

They said it was believed not to be arson the other day, but if it is I hope they throw the book at him, Not totally because of the destruction of the site, But because he has probably robbed quite a sizeable portion of the workforce both on the site and in adjacent units of their Jobs and their income......... I have been their many moons ago and know what it is like to lose a job and income through no fault of the people working there, all be it for a short period, some of these no doubt have families that depend on the income.......... Bad form !

vocatx
07-19-2006, 08:18 PM
They SHOULD throw the book at him. I'll never understand what anybody gets out of starting fires. We had a rash of arson fires recently. They solved a couple of them, but not all of them.

I hope the companies in your town don't end up moving. I don't know about England, but many companies in my part of the States have taken to locating in small towns because the cost of labor is lower. They will usually pay a higher wage than the local companies, but without a union around here, they don't have to fork over rediculous wages like they would in the large cities. Hopefully it won't be as bad as it looks now.

Flying_Nutcase
07-20-2006, 12:59 AM
Dux & Capt England,

I wasn't judging in any way, just offering a possible reason why the threads were locked. The first especially seemed to be going downhill fast. Nothing wrong with the topic.

S!

Capt.England
07-21-2006, 05:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Flying_Nutcase:
Dux & Capt England,

I wasn't judging in any way, just offering a possible reason why the threads were locked. The first especially seemed to be going downhill fast. Nothing wrong with the topic.

S! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No worrys mate, you made a good point! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

It's just a shame that the two posts were locked
without a reason.

BTW, TT has another post locked tonight without a reason. Has someone got it in for him or just
a coincidence?

Taylortony
07-21-2006, 07:46 PM
so I noticed................... time to move on and leave the forums i think.... Not a happy bunny,

vocatx
07-21-2006, 09:24 PM
Another one? Tony, you must have turned into a real trouble maker around here!

Kernow
07-22-2006, 10:26 AM
Yet there are multi-page threads of almost 100%personal 'nastiness' - often totally unprovoked - and never a lock in sight. Guess those people know the right mods.

Capt.England
07-22-2006, 10:41 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by vocatx:
Another one? Tony, you must have turned into a real trouble maker around here! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe it's because he's such a firebrand? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Scragbat
07-23-2006, 08:20 AM
IBTL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif