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The_Silent_O
01-04-2008, 07:25 AM
I think most of us have seen "Das Boot", now a somewhat dated film. But, I have been very impressed with the new films that have been coming out of Germany. Perhaps it has something to do with the re-unification of Germany and the combined talents of actors and directors from both sides of Germany.

I have seen and recommend:
- Sophie Scholl, The Last Days
- The lives of others
- Goodbye Lenin
- Run Lola Run
- Downfall

Although, not completely German made, I do not recommend "Joyeux Noël" It is sad that Diane Kruger is considered by the west to be Germany's chief export actress, when she can barely hold a candle to many of the actors and actresses that have acted in the movies above.

Are there any other movies that I'm missing that I should see?

Goose_Green
01-04-2008, 07:30 AM
@ Silent O - The only film in your list I have seen is Downfall, it is becoming my all time favourite war film. It's simplicity is something that stands out for me, and the cast is first class, some of them really do look similar to the original personalities.

Those artillery shells really do play havoc with my sound system http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

The_Silent_O
01-04-2008, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
@ Silent O - The only film in your list I have seen is Downfall, it is becoming my all time favourite war film. It's simplicity is something that stands out for me, and the cast is first class, some of them really do look similar to the original personalities.

Those artillery shells really do play havoc with my sound system http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

If you liked "Downfall" for the intense drama in the bunker, I would suggest you also see "Sophie Scholl" it's also very gripping, right to the end.

Foehammer-1
01-04-2008, 07:56 AM
What's that movie, i've seen it a long while ago, not even sure if its German or not.

It's about three or so German soldiers fighting a losing battle at Stalingrad... They were supposed to get evecuated, but couldn't fit in the plane. That's all i can remember unfortunately. Saw it like 7 years ago, want to watch it again but can't remember what its called. Anyone have an idea, based on that vague description?

And it's not Enemy at the gates, which i also haven't seen.

Celeon999
01-04-2008, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by Foehammer-1:
What's that movie, i've seen it a long while ago, not even sure if its German or not.

It's about three or so German soldiers fighting a losing battle at Stalingrad... They were supposed to get evecuated, but couldn't fit in the plane. That's all i can remember unfortunately. Saw it like 7 years ago, want to watch it again but can't remember what its called. Anyone have an idea, based on that vague description?

And it's not Enemy at the gates, which i also haven't seen.


You surely mean "Stalingrad"


5 minutes from the movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq5edjlhcaQ)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3d/Stalingrad_film.jpg

The_Silent_O
01-04-2008, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Foehammer-1:
What's that movie, i've seen it a long while ago, not even sure if its German or not.

It's about three or so German soldiers fighting a losing battle at Stalingrad... They were supposed to get evecuated, but couldn't fit in the plane. That's all i can remember unfortunately. Saw it like 7 years ago, want to watch it again but can't remember what its called. Anyone have an idea, based on that vague description?

And it's not Enemy at the gates, which i also haven't seen.


You surely mean "Stalingrad"


5 minutes from the movie (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq5edjlhcaQ)

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Starring yours truly "Thomas Kretschmann" He's actually a pretty good actor who seems to star in both German and English language films...

"Stalingrad" almost made my list, although it captured the feel of the Battle, I found the storyline a little implausible, with them continually running into the same Soviet Army Woman. Stark ending!

The_Silent_O
01-04-2008, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
Those artillery shells really do play havoc with my sound system http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Those artillery shells really do play havoc with my NEIGHBORS!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

GerritJ9
01-04-2008, 09:00 AM
"Der Hauptmann von Köpenick" with Heinz Rühmann- historical, believe it or not........

Celeon999
01-04-2008, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by GerritJ9:
"Der Hauptmann von Köpenick" with Heinz Rühmann- historical, believe it or not........


http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

Celeon's home ! A lot of things are named after him (Wilhelm Voigt) here

Köpenick @ Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6penick)

Wilhelm Voigt @ wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Voigt)

List of "Hauptmann von Köpenick" films (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hauptmann_von_K%C3%B6penick)

There are several good film adaptions of that one.

He is a sort of local hero http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Mittelwaechter
01-04-2008, 09:49 AM
Some I'd like to recommend:

Bernhard Wicki: Die Brücke 1959
Oliver Hirschbiegel: Das Experiment 2001
Thomas Jahn: Knockin' On Heaven's Door 1997

Celeon999
01-04-2008, 12:00 PM
Die Brücke is a good movie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon recognizes a strange trend with german movies. Simple names. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Das Boot, Die Brücke, Das Experiment, Der Untergang.... Slowly but surely its getting rediculous. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Whats next ? Der Jumpmaster ?

A emotional drama about a parachuter who is afraid of heights .....and trees....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Talking about recommendations : Has the "O" already had the chance to watch LOST ?

The_Silent_O
01-04-2008, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
Die Brücke is a good movie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon recognizes a strange trend with german movies. Simple names. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Das Boot, Die Brücke, Das Experiment, Der Untergang.... Slowly but surely its getting rediculous. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Whats next ? Der Jumpmaster ?

A emotional drama about a parachuter who is afraid of heights .....and trees....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Talking about recommendations : Has the "O" already had the chance to watch LOST ?

CEL You forgot "Der Hof" as in "Der Hasselhoff" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Hmmm would "Der Jumpmaster" star a certain Silent film actor http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

LOST,...I'm getting to it! but not yet ...

First, I have to buy a plane ticket on an unknown airline for my trip to the south pacific ... I'll tell you about viewing LOST after I get back from this trip. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
01-04-2008, 12:58 PM
First, I have to buy a plane ticket on an unknown airline for my trip to the south pacific ... I'll tell you about viewing LOST after I get back from this trip.


Where have i heard this before ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Just a little advice ... Do not accept any of the following seat numbers : 4,8,15,16,23 and 42

Dont take a flight which's number involves any of them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Better said , AVOID THESE NUMBERS at any occassion by all means necessary http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

And....dont let that counter reach zero. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

On behalf of the DeGroots, Alvar Hanso and all of us here at the Dharma Initiative....

Namaste.., and Good luck ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif



Hmmm would "Der Jumpmaster" star a certain Silent film actor Roll Eyes

Sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif I will send you the script later http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Foehammer-1
01-04-2008, 02:26 PM
Thanks, Celeon, that indeed is the movie. Stalingrad. Although i still find it a little improbable that a T-34 blows up from a Molotov cocktail against front armor in that vid...

I'll check out some of those other movies, too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon999
01-04-2008, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Foehammer-1:
Thanks, Celeon, that indeed is the movie. Stalingrad. Although i still find it a little improbable that a T-34 blows up from a Molotov cocktail against front armor in that vid...

I'll check out some of those other movies, too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Yes indeed. It worked best when the molotov-cocktail hit the engine air-intakes and cooling openings behind the turret. (At the T-34)


Other tanks had even more openings through which the fluid could enter.

Once inside, the thick black moke created by the oil fire left the crew blind and without air to breathe forcing them to get out were they got shot.

In the most unlucky case the propellant inside the shell casing or the explosives themselves detonated through the heat but this takes a while and does not happen immidiately like in that scene. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Kaiser_W
01-04-2008, 03:28 PM
There are other movies to consider.

Der Golem, Das Kabinett des Doktor Kaligari?

Nosferatu.

These are old, but stylish.

On the modern scope I'd recommend 'Rosenstrasse'.

Kaiser_W
01-04-2008, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Celeon999:
Die Brücke is a good movie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon recognizes a strange trend with german movies. Simple names. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Das Boot, Die Brücke, Das Experiment, Der Untergang.... Slowly but surely its getting rediculous. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Whats next ? Der Jumpmaster ?

A emotional drama about a parachuter who is afraid of heights .....and trees....

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Talking about recommendations : Has the "O" already had the chance to watch LOST ?

I'm trying to sell 'Der Film' to Bavaria Studios.

It's about a guy trying to sell a film to a film studio.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

The_Silent_O
01-04-2008, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Kaiser_W:

I'm trying to sell 'Der Film' to Bavaria Studios.

It's about a guy trying to sell a film to a film studio.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Good one!

I'll check out 'Rosenstrasse'

Heinrich505
01-04-2008, 09:23 PM
Silent O,
Very interesting list. Der Untergang is an excellent film. Run Lola Run is also recommended. I saw it several times and was caught up in the premise.

Heinrich505

GerritJ9
01-05-2008, 03:12 AM
"Die Drei von der Tankstelle"
"Der Blaue Engel"

Celeon999
01-06-2008, 09:40 AM
DER CELEON !!!

Thats it ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif


At day , he is a totally normal guy...

But at night....he becomes der Celeon and fights crime and protects the innocent ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2049/gryphonad3.jpg


P.s: The project seems to be well underway. Since June last year they have a simulator for this thing but are still fishing for a military contract to get to the next phase.....Turbo jets for even more range http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Website (Now available in english) (http://www.esg.de/en/)


Forget drop zones http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif With that baby you can jump while being miles away from the place where you will land and the enemy wont even notice that a airborne operation is going on at all.




This is the mockup i forgot to photograph on the airshow Berlin in 2006.

It has these windows through which you can see all the equipment it is able to carry. And thats a lot http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Still trying to find a photo that shows more details. With that big thing on your back ,you would need to use the loading ramp to jump as you wont fit through the door.

Should'nt be a problem for the C-17 though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Have i mentioned that you are almost invisible on radar with that thing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif At least for as long as your parachute isnt deployed yet.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/7347/img313020gryphon1yu2.jpg

Heinrich505
01-06-2008, 11:33 AM
Hey, copy-infringment. We invented that already. There was a movie about it. Didn't you see TURBOMAN in "Jingle All The Way," with Ahhhhnold Schwarzenegger as the famous TURBOMAN? He vanquished Dementor, while his sidekick Booster (Boo, everyone hates Booster) was beaten up by a crowd of 9 year olds.

Heinrich505

Celeon999
01-06-2008, 01:37 PM
Ahhhnuld the Governator ?

Dammit.

Hopefully he forgot to secure himself the patent for it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Kaiser_W
01-06-2008, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by Heinrich505:
Hey, copy-infringment. We invented that already. There was a movie about it. Didn't you see TURBOMAN in "Jingle All The Way," with Ahhhhnold Schwarzenegger as the famous TURBOMAN? He vanquished Dementor, while his sidekick Booster (Boo, everyone hates Booster) was beaten up by a crowd of 9 year olds.

Heinrich505


It's Tuahbo Time!!!!

TalladegaHack
01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
Anybody seen this sniper movie?

Click Here (http://vincentperez.com/shot.html)

The_Silent_O
01-07-2008, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by TalladegaHack:
Anybody seen this sniper movie?

Click Here (http://vincentperez.com/shot.html)

No I haven't, but I really hope they don't use JON BON JOVI's song SHOT THROUGH THE HEART in its soundtrack anywhere. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

You know, JON BON JOVI of U-571 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-571_%28movie%29) fame?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I can just imagine the openning credits now...

"Shot through the heart,
And you're to blame
Darling, you give love
A bad name..."

On a side note, I went to go see "There will be Blood" this weekend and was completely impressed. Daniel Day Lewis plays a great (evil) character!

Celeon999
10-04-2008, 12:56 PM
Celeon spent the night wandering around the thread graveyard with his shovel again... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif


The reason is : Celeon finally saw "The lives of others" and highly recommends the movie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


The Lives of Others cost US$2 million and grossed more than $74 million worldwide as of November 2007.

Prior to his death, Sydney Pollack was said to be directing a possible Hollywood remake.

That means it grossed 37 times the costs of its production. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif


The Lives of Others (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lives_of_Others)


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/418QX%2BozKxL._SL500_.jpg

tuddley3
10-06-2008, 03:46 AM
I'm surprised Das Boot was not a choice

Celeon999
10-06-2008, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by tuddley3:
I'm surprised Das Boot was not a choice

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif Because the "O" wrote that the thread is about german movies beside Das Boot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


BTW : The lives of others Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3_iLOp6IhM)

"You dont know me, but i know you" says it all

www.thelivesofothers.com (http://www.sonyclassics.com/thelivesofothers/swf/index.html)

The_Silent_O
10-06-2008, 08:39 AM
Ah, Gut! Celeon has finally seen "The lives of Others" - it must have been even more meaningful for you. It has some of the best acting I've seen in a movie, period!

...And in exchange, I'm finally getting through "Lost" season 1. I'm about halfway through. My favorite characters so far is, male: Sayid (Even though he was once a foe of the O's) and Female: Kate (Duhh! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif). I'm beginning to believe that the writers are leaving so many loose ends in the plot on purpose to fuel future plotlines.

This weekend, I got around to watching "The Orphanage" and enjoyed it very much, Somebody who likes "Lost" and Lynch would get into this film. Just don't watch it alone http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif at night http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif (you will lose sleep!):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orphanage_(2007_film)

Celeon999
10-06-2008, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
Ah, Gut! Celeon has finally seen "The lives of Others" - it must have been even more meaningful for you. It has some of the best acting I've seen in a movie, period!

...And in exchange, I'm finally getting through "Lost" season 1. I'm about halfway through. My favorite characters so far is, male: Sayid (Even though he was once a foe of the O's) and Female: Kate (Duhh! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif). I'm beginning to believe that the writers are leaving so many loose ends in the plot on purpose to fuel future plotlines.

This weekend, I got around to watching "The Orphanage" and enjoyed it very much, Somebody who likes "Lost" and Lynch would get into this film. Just don't watch it alone http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif at night http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif (you will lose sleep!):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orphanage_(2007_film)

Indeed.

My favourite scene is when Wiesler , or shall we call him HGW XX/7 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif is in that elevator with the small boy.

Boy: "Are you really with the Stasi ?"

"Do you even know what this is ?"

"My daddy says that are evil people who spy on other people and sometimes throw them into prison"

"Really ? And what is the name of your da...."

And he realizes how mean it would be to use the little boy's naivity against his father and decides not to ask him. Great scene !


So the "O" likes LOST ? Celeon's favourite character is Hurley (also known as Hugo) and another one who you dont know yet but will learn of soon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif


Yes LOST is full of open plot lines which often have interconnections that are often reavaled seasons later. The real confusion is yet to come when the hatch gets opened http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif .... so stay tuned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

The_Silent_O
10-06-2008, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Celeon999:


Yes LOST is full of open plot lines which often have interconnections that are often reavaled seasons later. The real confusion is yet to come when the hatch gets opened http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif .... so stay tuned. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Hatch? What Hatch? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif (I know, I'll get there; as well as meeting all the tail section survivors)...the whole epidsode detailing John Locke's back story was very moving...especially the ending.

Ulrich Mühe was a very good actor, so sad to see him go...I love how "Live of others" ends...at the bookstore.

Celeon999
10-06-2008, 11:30 AM
No comment on the hatch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif You will see. It is the FIRST huge turning point of LOST that will leave you : http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif


Yes Mühe was great. Really really sad http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


Celeon's brother handed in a request at the BStU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BStU) for finding out if there are Stasi files on him.

He had some troubles during his conscription time in the NVA and thinks he might have brought himself into the Stasi crosshairs with certain comments and friendships.

As the wiki article states , they use computer scanning technology to put the shredded pieces of thousands of files faster back together.

I bet some people now regret not having them destroyed the "old school" way, by burning.

The experts estimate that 30 people who would puzzle the pieces back together by hand would need 600 to 800 years for this task http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

With the scanners working as good as hoped for, they calculate only 5 years of work. (33 million pages remain !)

They also hope that the documents will unmask even more former spies of which so far only covernames like IM-Mariposa, IM-Stone, IM-Spoon or IM-Hammer are known.

Even in their own internal documents the Stasi was keen to keep the identities of their employees and informants a big savagely guarded secret.

The shredding has at least given them the time they needed to dissappear into the fog.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,866082,00.jpg
http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,866095,00.jpg

Celeon999
10-07-2008, 03:15 AM
Another great scene from the movie is the interrogation in the first five minutes of the movie

The lives of others - Suspect Interrogation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu-NJA4Y1RI&feature=related)

VikingGrandad
10-07-2008, 07:56 AM
I finally got around to watching 'Sophie Scholl, The Last Days' - a very good (and important) movie. The very last shot of Sophie before the screen goes black is still stuck in mind http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/VikingG/58622-large.jpg

I thought the script and acting were superb, especially when Sophie keeps her cool whilst being interrogated by the Gestapo, knowing that she is actually fighting for her life. The dialogue is nail-biting!

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/VikingG/sophiescholl-5.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/VikingG/354444150_dc22fbccb4.jpg

For those who don't know of Sophie Scholl:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie_Scholl


Does anyone know why the film is mainly about Sophie rather than about both her and her brother Hans?


On a side note, I thought that the actress who played the part of Sophie, Julia Jentsch, is rather attractive, in an understated way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/VikingG/02_2.jpg

The_Silent_O
10-07-2008, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by VikingGrandad:
Does anyone know why the film is mainly about Sophie rather than about both her and her brother Hans?


I believe I read that the script was almost written verbatim from the interrogators notes and possibly recordings between him and Sophie, so most of the movie would have only his or her perspective (who in real life survived the war and expressed much regret about the situation). The scene that got me was when the prison guard informed her that she would be executed before the end of the day...talk about impact.



On a side note, I thought that the actress who played the part of Sophie, Julia Jentsch, is rather attractive, in an understated way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif


I totally agree, she's cute and can act. She pulled off the whole story realistically. I waiting for her to get more recognition here on the west shore of the pond. She puts Diane Kruger to shame!

VikingGrandad
10-07-2008, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
I believe I read that the script was almost written verbatim from the interrogators notes and possibly recordings between him and Sophie, so most of the movie would have only his or her perspective (who in real life survived the war and expressed much regret about the situation).

Good background info from the 'O' http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

That explains why the character of the Gestapo interrogator is portrayed in a somewhat sympathetic manner towards the end of the movie. I did wonder about that, as it was unusual given the theme of the story.


Originally posted by The_Silent_O:
I totally agree, she's cute and can act. She pulled off the whole story realistically. I waiting for her to get more recognition here on the west shore of the pond. She puts Diane Kruger to shame!

Yes, even without being able to follow the German dialogue, you can tell she's a very talented actress. And a good job too, given the high regard German people have for the real Sophie Scholl:


from Wikipedia:
Over the last four decades many local schools as well as countless streets and squares in Germany have been named after Sophie Scholl and her brother.

In 2003, Germans were invited by ZDF Television to participate in a nation-wide competition to choose the top ten most important Germans of all time. Voters under the age of 40 helped catapult Sophie and her brother Hans Scholl into fourth place, winning over Bach, Goethe, Gutenberg, Bismarck, Willy Brandt and Albert Einstein. If the votes of young viewers alone had been counted, Sophie and Hans Scholl would have been ranked first. Several years earlier, readers of Brigitte Magazine, one of Germany's leading magazines for young women, voted Sophie Scholl "the greatest woman of the twentieth century," winning over such figures as Madeleine Albright and Madonna.

(and that national TV vote was 2-3 years before the film and book were released)

I must remember to visit the memorial to Sophie and Hans Scholl at the University next time I visit Munich.

I've not seen Diane Kruger in action - just photos http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif But I notice she is on the cast for Tarantino's forthcoming WW2 movie "Inglorious Bastards", a film I'm tentatively looking forward to... (apparently a "Dirty Dozen" type story)

Celeon999
10-07-2008, 12:59 PM
Hmmm seems that Sophie is the next name on Celeon's list now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Regarding Tarantino , ive recently read that he searches "aryan" extras for his movie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif



Tarantino looking for Aryan extras for new wwII film (http://www.thelocal.de/14201/20080909/)

"Brangelina" is (or are?) here in Berlin for the shooting of this movie and constantly followed by an army of Paparazzi http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Celeon , knowing that this thread is closely monitored by "ze Stasi" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif ,would like to take this opportunity to reassure his staunchly loyality to the fatherland ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif


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