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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:21 AM
This came to me from UBI PR:

The Battle of Britain: Cliffs of Dover (Title TBC)


Product Description

The Battle of Britain (TBoB) is the next World War II flight simulation title from 1C: Maddox Games, creators of the worldwide acclaimed
IL-2 Sturmovik series. TBoB will take place in 1940 during the "Battle of Britain," between England and Germany (plus Italy), and it allows players to fly for as either the British or German (Italian) air force.

Key Features

. Flyable aircraft - At least 10-11 highly detailed English, German and Italian aircraft - including Spitfire, Hurricane, Messerschmitt 109 and Stuka.

. Non-Flyable aircraft - Between 10-17 AI controlled aircraft.

. Huge number of missions - 20 single-player missions & 10 multiplayer missions (At least).

. Brand new game map - TBoB will take place from central England in the North, to Northern France in the South (The part of map will include Belgium - area close to French border, from where were flying Italian AF, involved in BoB). The game-world will consist of a single large map and will encompass cities, towns, roads, airfields, radar stations, ports, and industrial areas.

. Enhanced campaign system - The dynamic campaign system will be an "evolution" of the Forgotten Battles campaign engine and will include expanded pilot and squadron management.

. Dynamic campaign system - Allows players to rewrite history (ability to set two variants in realistic settings for campaign system. One for realistic, and one for "rewriting history").

. Scalable gameplay - Not only appealing for sim enthusiasts, TBoB will attract the novices too through an enhanced novice mode.

. Even more precise flight model - Based on the Forgotten Battles FM development with additional modules of precise calculations.

. New weather effects (non-constant on the map area) - New "sky", especially at altitude, clouds, rain, etc that will look and works better than in FB.

. New 3D engine - highly detailed objects and ground, including coastal lines and sea. Expandable with add-ons for new theatres.

. Air-stream effects - When flying directly behind another aircraft, there will be a noticeable realistic prop-wash effect.

. Multiplayer option - 32 at minimum, dogfights, cooperative and team play with basic and special maps.



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++


IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles: Expansion Pack



Product Description

IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles: Expansion Pack is an incredible add-on allowing the Forgotten Battles owners to upgrade drastically their game. With new aircraft, environments, and effects.

Key Features


. New Flyable aircraft - At least 20 flyable aircraft including the American P-51 series, P-38, YP-80, the German Me-163B, , Ta-152H-1, Mistel and Ho-229 , the Italian Fiat G.50 and Japanese
Ki-84 and A6 Zero.

. New Non-Flyable aircraft - At least 7 AI aircraft including the Finnish Gloster Gladiators and Hawk 75, Italian Fiat CR.42, the American B-17 and the German V-1.

. 3 unexplored environments - Ardennes, Normandy and special "Pacific" online map.

. New dynamic campaigns - At least 7 campaigns using the Forgotten Battles existed maps.

. 20 new single missions - Using old and new maps areas.



. 10 exciting cooperative Multiplayer missions - Using both previous and new maps areas.

. New AI ground objects for each new map area - Includes 3D modelling of new types of trees, buildings and vehicles for each new map area.

. Improvements in flight dynamics -Featuring additional precise calculations.

. Ranking and award campaign system - For USA, Poland, Slovak and France.

. Resign of AI - Includes several improvements to AI since Forgotten Battles release.



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++



UBISOFT TO EXPAND ITS LINE OF
FLIGHT SIMS

Ubisoft and 1C:Maddox Games strengthen partnership to bring History's most notorious firefights to aviation buffs worldwide


Paris, FRANCE - October 6, 2003 - Ubisoft, one of the world's largest video game publishers, revealed plans today to expand its line of flight Sims through a partnership with 1C: Maddox Games. The publishing deal includes the announcement of The Battle of Britain, a brand new World War II flight simulation game, which is expected to build on the enormous success of the IL-2 SturmovikTM franchise. Ubisoft also plans to publish an expansion pack for IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles that will let owners of Forgotten Battles take to the skies again, to engage in more World War II dogfights alone or with players around the world via the internet.

Ubisoft's partnership with 1C: Maddox Games began with the highly acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik, lauded for revolutionizing the flight sim genre. The attention to detail, technical accuracy and beautiful graphics completely immersed players in World War II skies like never before. The Battle of Britain will be packed with even more historical realism, and will utilize a new engine, a dynamic campaign system and new weather effects. The game will take place in 1940 during the infamous "Battle of Britain", between England, Germany and Italy, and it will allow players to fly for the British, German or Italian air force.

"IC Maddox Games has a stellar reputation in the industry for making quality games," said Jay Cohen, VP Publishing, Ubisoft. "We believe that our partnership with their talented team has made Ubisoft the world's premiere publisher of historical flight sims and we can't wait to bring these two new games to fans everywhere."

"Ubisoft shares the passion we feel for flight sims and they believe in our goal to constantly work at improving the gaming experience for sim fans," said Oleg Maddox.

"The Battle of Britain will be our most ambitious work to date and we are looking forward to the challenge."

The Battle of Britain is scheduled to ship in 2005. The IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles Expansion Pack is scheduled to ship in early 2004.



Dali

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:21 AM
This came to me from UBI PR:

The Battle of Britain: Cliffs of Dover (Title TBC)


Product Description

The Battle of Britain (TBoB) is the next World War II flight simulation title from 1C: Maddox Games, creators of the worldwide acclaimed
IL-2 Sturmovik series. TBoB will take place in 1940 during the "Battle of Britain," between England and Germany (plus Italy), and it allows players to fly for as either the British or German (Italian) air force.

Key Features

. Flyable aircraft - At least 10-11 highly detailed English, German and Italian aircraft - including Spitfire, Hurricane, Messerschmitt 109 and Stuka.

. Non-Flyable aircraft - Between 10-17 AI controlled aircraft.

. Huge number of missions - 20 single-player missions & 10 multiplayer missions (At least).

. Brand new game map - TBoB will take place from central England in the North, to Northern France in the South (The part of map will include Belgium - area close to French border, from where were flying Italian AF, involved in BoB). The game-world will consist of a single large map and will encompass cities, towns, roads, airfields, radar stations, ports, and industrial areas.

. Enhanced campaign system - The dynamic campaign system will be an "evolution" of the Forgotten Battles campaign engine and will include expanded pilot and squadron management.

. Dynamic campaign system - Allows players to rewrite history (ability to set two variants in realistic settings for campaign system. One for realistic, and one for "rewriting history").

. Scalable gameplay - Not only appealing for sim enthusiasts, TBoB will attract the novices too through an enhanced novice mode.

. Even more precise flight model - Based on the Forgotten Battles FM development with additional modules of precise calculations.

. New weather effects (non-constant on the map area) - New "sky", especially at altitude, clouds, rain, etc that will look and works better than in FB.

. New 3D engine - highly detailed objects and ground, including coastal lines and sea. Expandable with add-ons for new theatres.

. Air-stream effects - When flying directly behind another aircraft, there will be a noticeable realistic prop-wash effect.

. Multiplayer option - 32 at minimum, dogfights, cooperative and team play with basic and special maps.



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++


IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles: Expansion Pack



Product Description

IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles: Expansion Pack is an incredible add-on allowing the Forgotten Battles owners to upgrade drastically their game. With new aircraft, environments, and effects.

Key Features


. New Flyable aircraft - At least 20 flyable aircraft including the American P-51 series, P-38, YP-80, the German Me-163B, , Ta-152H-1, Mistel and Ho-229 , the Italian Fiat G.50 and Japanese
Ki-84 and A6 Zero.

. New Non-Flyable aircraft - At least 7 AI aircraft including the Finnish Gloster Gladiators and Hawk 75, Italian Fiat CR.42, the American B-17 and the German V-1.

. 3 unexplored environments - Ardennes, Normandy and special "Pacific" online map.

. New dynamic campaigns - At least 7 campaigns using the Forgotten Battles existed maps.

. 20 new single missions - Using old and new maps areas.



. 10 exciting cooperative Multiplayer missions - Using both previous and new maps areas.

. New AI ground objects for each new map area - Includes 3D modelling of new types of trees, buildings and vehicles for each new map area.

. Improvements in flight dynamics -Featuring additional precise calculations.

. Ranking and award campaign system - For USA, Poland, Slovak and France.

. Resign of AI - Includes several improvements to AI since Forgotten Battles release.



++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++



UBISOFT TO EXPAND ITS LINE OF
FLIGHT SIMS

Ubisoft and 1C:Maddox Games strengthen partnership to bring History's most notorious firefights to aviation buffs worldwide


Paris, FRANCE - October 6, 2003 - Ubisoft, one of the world's largest video game publishers, revealed plans today to expand its line of flight Sims through a partnership with 1C: Maddox Games. The publishing deal includes the announcement of The Battle of Britain, a brand new World War II flight simulation game, which is expected to build on the enormous success of the IL-2 SturmovikTM franchise. Ubisoft also plans to publish an expansion pack for IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles that will let owners of Forgotten Battles take to the skies again, to engage in more World War II dogfights alone or with players around the world via the internet.

Ubisoft's partnership with 1C: Maddox Games began with the highly acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik, lauded for revolutionizing the flight sim genre. The attention to detail, technical accuracy and beautiful graphics completely immersed players in World War II skies like never before. The Battle of Britain will be packed with even more historical realism, and will utilize a new engine, a dynamic campaign system and new weather effects. The game will take place in 1940 during the infamous "Battle of Britain", between England, Germany and Italy, and it will allow players to fly for the British, German or Italian air force.

"IC Maddox Games has a stellar reputation in the industry for making quality games," said Jay Cohen, VP Publishing, Ubisoft. "We believe that our partnership with their talented team has made Ubisoft the world's premiere publisher of historical flight sims and we can't wait to bring these two new games to fans everywhere."

"Ubisoft shares the passion we feel for flight sims and they believe in our goal to constantly work at improving the gaming experience for sim fans," said Oleg Maddox.

"The Battle of Britain will be our most ambitious work to date and we are looking forward to the challenge."

The Battle of Britain is scheduled to ship in 2005. The IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles Expansion Pack is scheduled to ship in early 2004.



Dali

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:28 AM
Consider my appetite wetted /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:29 AM
The expansion sounds good. Wow, 20 new flyables? That sounds awesome. TBoB sounds good also, but that few flyable aircraft? Thank you very much for the info.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:41 AM
amazing news!!!!!!

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:41 AM
Non-Flyable aircraft - Between 10-17 AI controlled aircraft.

I cant believe this day and age they are still making sims with AI only aircraft. I dont think I would buy a sim with only 8 flyable aircraft I would get bored with them much to quickly. Its the reason I will not buy lockon.

A wwii flight sim covering all aircraft and all theaters and all flyable aircraft no AI only!, il2s gunnery and water, xplanes real physics, ms2004s 10,000-40,000 alt graphics and weather effects, rain on windshields, canopys that open, sounds of janes wwii fighters.


now that would be somthing truely ground breaking!

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:51 AM
you MUST be joking!

you get bored with 8 aircraft?

I'm playing LOMAC beta for the last 6 months, and there are NO signs of boredom at me...

and I tested both IL-2 and FB...played it for months and months...and still I find them non-boring...

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:52 AM
Hmmm, the press release did state "at least 10-11 types" implying there is a possibility of more.

Plus if you think about the scenario, (BoB) 10-11 types actually allows you to cover most of the main aircraft involved.

Spit
Hurri
Bf-109
Bf-110
Do-17
He-111
Ju-87
Ju-88

if you just did those you would have most of the significant aircraft that fought (sorry to you Italian fans, cannot remember their kites).

The day when flight sims only have flyable only planes on release? that will be the day peoples work does itself all on it's own /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - Gunther Rall

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:52 AM
erm 10 is a bit skimpy /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif
i hope that doesnt include slightly diff 109's/spitfires
u could prolly get 10 easy from them 2 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 01:58 AM
As to Spits and 109's ibn the BoB, you really only need:

Spitfire Ia (Ib was hardly combat effective)
Spitfire II (possibly)
Bf-109 E3
Bf-109 E4



"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - Gunther Rall

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:00 AM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- Non-Flyable aircraft - Between 10-17 AI controlled
- aircraft.
-
- I cant believe this day and age they are still
- making sims with AI only aircraft. I dont think I
- would buy a sim with only 8 flyable aircraft I would
- get bored with them much to quickly. Its the reason
- I will not buy lockon.
-
- A wwii flight sim covering all aircraft and all
- theaters and all flyable aircraft no AI only!, il2s
- gunnery and water, xplanes real physics, ms2004s
- 10,000-40,000 alt graphics and weather effects, rain
- on windshields, canopys that open, sounds of janes
- wwii fighters.
-
-
- now that would be somthing truely ground breaking!
-


I agree the announcement leaves me rather cold . If this is just a slightly improved IL2 engine with a few more details this is leaving me kinda cold. I hope they are just leaving their hand close to the vest because in two years with a limited plane set I would have expected more than propwash and more detailed terrain.

If we have a limited theatre and planeset, I for one am hoping for a more realistic simulator where all cockpit functions (fuel management,switches,etc) are modeled,and a more convincing physics engine including turbulence and E bleed, in addition to what is mentioned above about weather and sound.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:01 AM
Dont forget the Lysander, BPD Defient, The Roc, the Blemen, and also many SUB models. Remember, Bf-109 E4 and E7 count as two, not just one. A few version of the Spit, Hurricane, 109 and 110 and you can make 10-11 ez.

NegativeGee wrote:
- Hmmm, the press release did state "at least 10-11
- types" implying there is a possibility of more.
-
- Plus if you think about the scenario, (BoB) 10-11
- types actually allows you to cover most of the main
- aircraft involved.
-
- Spit
- Hurri
- Bf-109
- Bf-110
- Do-17
- He-111
- Ju-87
- Ju-88
-
- if you just did those you would have most of the
- significant aircraft that fought (sorry to you
- Italian fans, cannot remember their kites).
-
- The day when flight sims only have flyable only
- planes on release? that will be the day peoples work
- does itself all on it's own /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
-
- "As weaponry, both were good, but in far different
- ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it
- this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a
- florett, or foil, like that used in the precision
- art of fencing." - Gunther Rall



No fancy quote or cool photo.... YET

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:07 AM
Sounds good... I wonder if the P-51s with the Malcolm hoods flown by the RAF will be there. Anyway...I'll buy it for sure!! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:08 AM
Where do I pre-order?

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:13 AM
it is not just tweeked FB engine. It is beeing re-written. Each aircraft will be made of 10.000 pollys.

Oleg wants to do small amout of aircraft, detailed to max. Damage model will be raised to entirely new level.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:13 AM
Gibbage1 wrote:
- Dont forget the Lysander, BPD Defient, The Roc, the
- Blemen, and also many SUB models. Remember, Bf-109
- E4 and E7 count as two, not just one. A few version
- of the Spit, Hurricane, 109 and 110 and you can make
- 10-11 ez.

This is indeed true. Based on previous Ubi marketing statements on IL-2, counting each sub type as an individual aircraft "10-11" could amount to very few different designs. But then again it may not.

I guess alot depends on the emphasis of TBoB. Will it be favoured towards the single seaters (less development time required) or will it encompass the major combat types used? (more development effort, more accurate as a "complete" BoB sim).

We will wait and see....



"As weaponry, both were good, but in far different ways from each other. In a nutshell, I describe it this way: if the FW 190 was a sabre, the 109 was a florett, or foil, like that used in the precision art of fencing." - Gunther Rall

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:33 AM
NegativeGee wrote:

- Spitfire Ia (Ib was hardly combat effective)

Well now, in EAW that was the first decent plane you got in their BoB campagin. Until you were given that plane you flew Hurricanes.

Now they did produce more Hurri's than Spit's but IIRC the British pilots loved the Spit compared to the Hurricane. The Hurri was late '30's technology and didn't have battlefield testing to suss out and improve weaknesses.

The Spit Ia hardly combat effective? I don't think so. Even though the 109's Germany flew in 1940 were a little long in the tooth, the skills of the battle tested Spanish Civil War pilots gave them a definite advantage in flight mangement and in training new pilots.

Yes, the British had to hurridly produce pilots and they did not fare that well against the seasoned German pilots. But when the Spitfire was introduced it began to level the playing field. With an aircraft superior in flight characteristics and technologically advanced, it helped give the British a fighting chance. By the time the Spitfire II was produced, Germany was sending experienced pilots to the Eastern Front and the British pilots were more skilled and better trained.

(This is my opinion based on my admittedly limited knowledge. If you have better info I'll stand corrected.)

EAW's BoB was very, very difficult with the Hurricane but kills came easier with the Spitfire Ia. I think it's the perfect plane for the early battles.

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:33 AM
dali wrote:
- -
- The Battle of Britain is scheduled to ship in 2005.
- The IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles Expansion Pack
- is scheduled to ship in early 2004.
-



ahhhhh yeah

2005, ah, er, thanks for the heads up, glad you let us know, might a missed it


early 2004, is that early in the morning of some day in 2004?


sorry but you just get sinical after awhile


Dont get me wrong, great prospects just have to scratch my head at the PR

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 02:57 AM
Wow....just what the doctor ordered/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I love it that its only 10 planes.I want 10 super realistic planes/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif I really think were gonna be suprised at the huge leap in realism the BOB will make.

The FB add-on sounds great too.More precise FM calculations added....hmmm I saw no mention of that.I wonder what it is.Also the fact that AI is being worked on a little is a welcome addition/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:07 AM
Beebop-PBNA wrote:
- NegativeGee wrote:
-
-- Spitfire Ia (Ib was hardly combat effective)
-
- Well now, in EAW that was the first decent plane you
- got in their BoB campagin. Until you were given
- that plane you flew Hurricanes.
-
- Now they did produce more Hurri's than Spit's but
- IIRC the British pilots loved the Spit compared to
- the Hurricane. The Hurri was late '30's technology
- and didn't have battlefield testing to suss out and
- improve weaknesses.
-
- The Spit Ia hardly combat effective? I don't think
- so.

Nor do I. To use a Shakespearian turn of phrase, Sir, methinks you did not read my post correctly. My reference was to the 1b model.

Quote: "Spitfire Ia (Ib was hardly combat effective)"

And to forstall your next question why? The Spitfire Ib replaced 4 of it's .303 for 2x 20mm Hispano. While this was a good idea in principle, the cannons suffered from appalingly frequent jams, typically robbing the pilot of much of his firepower. The pilots involved were so concerned, that at a visit by a senior RAF officer (I cannot recall the names of those invloved) they begged him to order a restoration of the original Ia armament, which was duly carried out.

Even though the 109's Germany flew in 1940 were
- a little long in the tooth, the skills of the battle
- tested Spanish Civil War pilots gave them a definite
- advantage in flight mangement and in training new
- pilots.
-
- Yes, the British had to hurridly produce pilots and
- they did not fare that well against the seasoned
- German pilots. But when the Spitfire was introduced
- it began to level the playing field. With an
- aircraft superior in flight characteristics and
- technologically advanced, it helped give the British
- a fighting chance.

Indeed. the Spitfire Ia and the Bf109 E3/E4 were very closely matched (abeit in diffenent ways) combat aircraft.

By the time the Spitfire II was
- produced, Germany was sending experienced pilots to
- the Eastern Front and the British pilots were more
- skilled and better trained.
-
- (This is my opinion based on my admittedly limited
- knowledge. If you have better info I'll stand
- corrected.)
-
- EAW's BoB was very, very difficult with the
- Hurricane but kills came easier with the Spitfire
- Ia. I think it's the perfect plane for the early
- battles.
-
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- src="http://www.uploadit.org/files/230903-Beebop%2
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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:21 AM
Sweet. Especially the non-constant weather effects.

I'm ecstatic that there will be fewer flyables.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:51 AM
dali wrote:
Even more precise flight model - Based on the
- Forgotten Battles FM development with additional
- modules

New 3D engine - highly detailed objects and
- ground, including coastal lines and sea. Expandable
- with add-ons for new theatres.f precise calculations.

Air-stream effects - When flying directly behind
- another aircraft, there will be a noticeable
- realistic prop-wash effect.



-New weather effects (non-constant on the map area)
- New "sky", especially at altitude, clouds, rain,
- etc that will look and works better than in FB.

Improvements in flight dynamics -Featuring
- additional precise calculations.

Resign of AI - Includes several improvements to AI
- since Forgotten Battles release.
-



I Like this stuff!!!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:58 AM
Great!

I will find it difficult to wait.

and ak!

"The IL2 SturmovikTM Forgotten Battles Expansion Pack is scheduled to ship in early 2004."

early 2004 sounds a wee bit later than after Christmas or Jan '04!

Well, maybe I'll be able to get the Expansion Pack in May on my birthday?


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:49 AM
BoB::..

Sounds great, especially if this is the first step to a WW2 flight sim Olegarchy. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif But, I guess I missed the announcment of BoB Mission Editor. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


btw, are they saying the radar stations will be on the map? Did anybody notice that? So will they not be placeable in a mission editor?



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addon FB::..

um...are they listing Xanty's CR~42 as AI only? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

This gums up the works BAD, as most of the new Flyables listed here are strict high altitude late WAR, where FB does not run and does not render. What is going on here?

And what is *really* happening to the IAR~80 ???

I can understand the V~1 as unflyable, but still.... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif




Message Edited on 10/28/0304:52AM by LEXX_Luthor

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 11:05 AM
"Between England and Germany"The Battle of Britain was many things,fought over England and the Channel perhaps,but it sure wasnt between England and Germany.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 03:04 PM
Hmmmmm. sounds good. Little disapointed. I was looking forward to flying the CR.42. Looks like Im gonna have to wait for the BoB for that.

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fluke39
10-28-2003, 03:51 PM
Is it my bad memory or are there items from the forthcoming free add-on included in the product description for the paid add-on?

i'm not bothered if they have or not - it's just i was looking forward to the new maps (and B17) in the free one.....

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:02 PM
mike_espo wrote:
- Hmmmmm. sounds good. Little disapointed. I was
- looking forward to flying the CR.42. Looks like Im
- gonna have to wait for the BoB for that.


The cockpit its 2 days away from being finished. I am just too bloddy busy. But I hope it can be finished on time.
Only some touches...the external is also done and included in engine.

Have faith.


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:16 PM
Ranking and award campaign system - For USA, Poland, Slovak and France.


Yeah!!


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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:20 PM
Drool... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 04:37 PM
In the addon:-". Ranking and award campaign system - For USA, Poland, Slovak and France."
Ranking and award campaign system for the USA?

Been there, done that! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Download the USAAF campaign folder here (http://mudmovers.com/Sims/FB/fb_essential_files.htm).

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Cpt.LoneRanger
10-28-2003, 04:59 PM
Sounds like they're taking the popular features from IL2 and FB, making them even better and packing them all together in an up-to-date engine.

Sounds good IMHO.

Even the smaller scale, limiting plane numbers and sceneries, compared to FB promises much more detail and sounds like 32+ player online realistic.

I'm really looking forward to screens, vids and demos. But that will take a while.... /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 05:50 PM
I will probably play BoB to death as I do FB. I just hope that the "enhanced FB flight model" will include high altitude.

(even if it does'nt I'll still play it to death....just at a lower altitude)

I still need to start flying a campaign in Final Battles before I start getting caught up in speculating what BoB will be like.

Looking forward to the patch/add-on.

fluke39
10-28-2003, 05:56 PM
Final Battles ?

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XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 06:43 PM
fluke39 wrote:
- Final Battles ?

LOL /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 06:56 PM
I am one of those who is glad to see fewer flyables in BoB. Hopefully fewer flyables= more accurate flight models.

XyZspineZyX
10-28-2003, 07:07 PM
LilHorse wrote:
- I am one of those who is glad to see fewer flyables
- in BoB.

Me too, absolutely!

I'd be glad to fly one fighter and one bomber per side, as long as there's no lack of AI around: THAT, would limit the immersion factor.

A.

XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 05:45 AM
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I like this info.

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 01:01 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
I dont think I
- would buy a sim with only 8 flyable aircraft I would
- get bored with them much to quickly. Its the reason
- I will not buy lockon.


I had at least two years of major fun flying WW2 Fighters from Janes online and it had only eight planes

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 01:25 PM
So, when do we get the patch?

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XyZspineZyX
10-29-2003, 03:21 PM
Not sure if anyone asked this yet, but what about the ranks and awards for Britain's RAF? We've got Spits, Tempests, Beaufighters, and Typhoons in the works.

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XyZspineZyX
11-05-2003, 11:40 PM
The Battle of Britain is my FAVORITE setting for flying!!!!!
No complaints on the number of flyables, lets face it, I dont think there were all that many different planes involved in the BOB.............A Do-17 sounds really cool....................and cant wait to skin a Spit!!! Man its hard to type while Im touching myself!!!http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:07 AM
I've seen some great shots of virtually complete Spits (and others)dotted about the forums.

Can anyone tell me for which game or add-on they're being created?

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 12:50 AM
I like the idea.. I'd love to see a handfule (Spit, Hurri, 109E, 110) detailed to the MAX with a realistic damage model and physics etc than 30-40 done very well.. we already have that.. I say take it a step beyone and set a new standard..

Great news is that its financially a viable plan and Ubi seems to be happy to produce it which is important in this day and age of console games etc.

XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 01:28 AM
So, we don't see Russian aircraft anymore? It's ironic.

I hoped Oleg would make Korean War simulation but it's forgotten again. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif


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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 01:45 AM
FI-finbar1 wrote:
- "Between England and Germany"The Battle of Britain
- was many things,fought over England and the Channel
- perhaps,but it sure wasnt between England and
- Germany.
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-
....So who was flying those Hurri's and Stukas'?



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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 02:03 AM
dali wrote:
- This came to me from UBI PR:

uh oh /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif


- The Battle of Britain: Cliffs of Dover (Title TBC)
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- Product Description
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- The Battle of Britain (TBoB) is the next World War
- II flight simulation title from 1C: Maddox Games,
- creators of the worldwide acclaimed
- IL-2 Sturmovik series. TBoB will take place in 1940
- during the "Battle of Britain," between England and
- Germany (plus Italy), and it allows players to fly
- for as either the British or German (Italian) air
- force.

Sounds good.


- Key Features
- . Flyable aircraft - At least 10-11 highly detailed
- English, German and Italian aircraft - including
- Spitfire, Hurricane, Messerschmitt 109 and Stuka.

Sounds good to me. I for one am all for this "quality over quantity" theory. Although Fb does a pretty good job and look at the quantity there. I just hope this 10-11 doesn't include variants.


- . Non-Flyable aircraft - Between 10-17 AI
- controlled aircraft.
-
- . Huge number of missions - 20 single-player
- missions & 10 multiplayer missions (At least).
-
- . Brand new game map - TBoB will take place from
- central England in the North, to Northern France in
- the South (The part of map will include Belgium -
- area close to French border, from where were flying
- Italian AF, involved in BoB). The game-world will
- consist of a single large map and will encompass
- cities, towns, roads, airfields, radar stations,
- ports, and industrial areas.

So.... 4Gb of ram? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif Roger.


- . Enhanced campaign system - The dynamic campaign
- system will be an "evolution" of the Forgotten
- Battles campaign engine and will include expanded
- pilot and squadron management.
- . Dynamic campaign system - Allows players to
- rewrite history (ability to set two variants in
- realistic settings for campaign system. One for
- realistic, and one for "rewriting history").

ack! I hope they add more than pilot and squadron management! Fb is good, but the sequel needs to do a lot more in the single player campaign.


- . New 3D engine - highly detailed objects and
- ground, including coastal lines and sea. Expandable
- with add-ons for new theatres.

fecking awesome.



Anyway, Im excited to see how this sim turns out. Im already hooked on FB so maybe this will finally be the nail in my social coffin./i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif


Thanks for the update, S~


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XyZspineZyX
11-06-2003, 02:07 AM
Well I sure hope the QMB in the FB addon has new terrain maps and not just the old tired ones left over from IL2....

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