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The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 02:26 PM
Hello guys. Whats up? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Anyways.


http://forums.ubi.com/eve/foru...3110283/m/9791071997 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9791071997)

I am not looking for performance, just looking for superiority and advancedment and with one had the most gadgets in it.


P.S. Whats that dark spot on the nose cone in the Yp-80?

Daiichidoku
10-28-2009, 03:02 PM
i voted YP 80, as the MiG-9, while having more advanced axial flow engines, lacks pressurized ccokpit, boosted ailerons and DRF of the Lockheed; the MiG9 really didnt go anwhere, even after an extensive redesign, whereas the YP 80 went to be an extremely well used fighter by many countries, grew into the F-94 starfire, and gains its true longevity and widest useage in form of T-33 trainer

i would have voted for Ta-183, as it has the axial flow engines, deliberate sweep of wings, and integrated guided missle weapons, but there was never even a prototype built, and there is some question as to whether or not it could even fly safely

The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 03:08 PM
I am also looking for an all weather aircraft.



As I wrote before, I am also looking for one that I can carry lugadge and food on, so like I'f I fly around, and get hungry or thirsty, I have food.

Daiichidoku
10-28-2009, 03:19 PM
i believe the "dark spot on the nose" was for the P 80s radar-ranging gunsight

Gibbage modelled the YP-80 kinda as a P-80 in a way also..in fact, i think he had a version with the DRF and tip tanks ready as well, but Oleg wasn't interested, as they didnt wasnt post-war types in the game at that time... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

K_Freddie
10-28-2009, 03:49 PM
The ME262 was the most advanced - PERIOD.

All later generation jet designs were based on it.
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The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 04:04 PM
Could the P-80 or the Me-262 fly in rain?

erco415
10-28-2009, 04:16 PM
The ME262 was the most advanced - PERIOD.

All later generation jet designs were based on it.

Really? There seems to be a general lack of fighters with wing mounted engines these days. And why the 262 and not the HE280? Or the even earlier single engine Heinkel design?

And yes, Owl, both of those aircraft could fly in the rain. A tremendous downpour could pose some risk of flameout to a turbine engine, but, generally speaking, rain isn't an issue.

The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 04:33 PM
If the Me-262 was so advanced, why was it planned to be replaced by the Ta-183?


What is more expensive, Me-262, MiG-9, Ta-183 or YP-80.(It'l be great if you can put them in order to the most expensive.) I'n American dollars

Romanator21
10-28-2009, 04:37 PM
Why are you posting the question then, if you already 'know' the answer? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 04:46 PM
I can't decide.

berg417448
10-28-2009, 04:54 PM
The cost for the P-80 was initially around $110,000 per plane but the price dropped each year as more of them were produced.

The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 05:19 PM
Now I am thinking the Me-262.

New problem:

What version should I fly?

Rjel
10-28-2009, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
I am also looking for an all weather aircraft.



As I wrote before, I am also looking for one that I can carry lugadge and food on, so like I'f I fly around, and get hungry or thirsty, I have food.


I'm amazed you get people to answer your "polls". I'm sure everyone needs an "advanced" WWII era fighter to eat lunch in. Too funny.

The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 06:19 PM
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt138/SILVERFISH1992/FoodCockpit.jpg

Rjel
10-28-2009, 06:25 PM
I stand corrected. Excellent use of technology.

Daiichidoku
10-28-2009, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by berg417448:
The cost for the P-80 was initially around $110,000 per plane but the price dropped each year as more of them were produced.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/...ms/aircraft/f-80.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-80.htm)

The intitial contract was for one plane, at a cost of $515,000.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/...craft/f-80-specs.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-80-specs.htm)

Cost $93,456

The_Stealth_Owl
10-28-2009, 07:58 PM
I made my desition. I chose the AR-234 as my new plane.

berg417448
10-28-2009, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by berg417448:
The cost for the P-80 was initially around $110,000 per plane but the price dropped each year as more of them were produced.


http://www.globalsecurity.org/...ms/aircraft/f-80.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-80.htm)

The intitial contract was for one plane, at a cost of $515,000.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/...craft/f-80-specs.htm (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-80-specs.htm)

Cost $93,456 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And just to be even more confusing an official USAF document from WWII says the P-80 cost $109,471 in 1944 and $71,840 in 1945.

http://www.afhra.af.mil/shared...t/AFD-090608-042.pdf (http://www.afhra.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-090608-042.pdf)

page 134 of the document.


The government can do anything with numbers! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Frankthetank36
10-28-2009, 09:05 PM
The Ta-183 has friggin' missiles (albeit pilot-guided ones). 'Nuff said.

Daiichidoku
10-28-2009, 09:06 PM
very frustrating....earlier tonight i found a webpage that actually broke down the cost of the P/F-80 including many components, but da mned if i could find it now

doraemil
10-28-2009, 10:07 PM
TA 183 swept wings, missles. and cannon. I love cannon.

Cannons make me smile, unless its my opponent firing at me!

Well since you really want the 262 go with the butterfly (V) tail one for the most advanced. Ruddervators!

I like that 24 rocket thing, people hate when I use that. Esp in protect the bomber and the mustangs are busy taking on the the fw 190s and bf 109s. Come screaming down, line up at the six for blink, and let fly and shallow dive away . . .

Its weird usualy when they limit planesets, and have the mandatory 2 262's no one ever uses them.




Originally posted by Daiichidoku:
very frustrating....earlier tonight i found a webpage that actually broke down the cost of the P/F-80 including many components, but da mned if i could find it now


that happens to me alot . . . I used to save webpages in favorites and my ex HATED that the list in IE 6 would go for dayz.

And usually the "where is that site?" happens with a website that is in the "ehhh" where it's in the middle, it doesn't suck but its not noteworthy to save the link.

Saburo_0
10-29-2009, 02:54 PM
LOL!

Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt138/SILVERFISH1992/FoodCockpit.jpg

Daiichidoku
10-30-2009, 09:21 AM
more research RE: P80s "dark spot"

it was probably extra access to gun bays or access to gun cam in P80As..

for sure, P80Bs it was a transparent cover for a landing light

in P80Cs it was a cover for a radar-ranging gunsight (the landing light was moved to wing leading edge)