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Crash_Moses
10-10-2008, 10:38 AM
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Blood_Splat
10-11-2008, 09:06 AM
Hey thanks. I've been flying the B 25 offline a lot. It's nice to see how they were implemented in the pacific theater. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Crash_Moses
10-13-2008, 09:48 AM
You're welcome. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Like most people I thought the Marines only flew the Corsair in WW2...until I became addicted to this !@#$% game.

The PBJ squadrons were introduced later in the war and were used mostly for anti-shipping, night heckling and strafing bypassed islands but there was notable action over Rabaul and Kavieng and at least one unit (VMB-611) saw action in the Philippines.

There hasn't been a lot written about them either. "Leatherneck Bombers" by Alan C. Carey is probably the most detailed but is poorly organized and hard to follow without taking notes. "PBJ Mitchell Units of the Pacific War" by Jerry Scutts is well organized and easy to read but leaves out much of the detail found in the former. Both titles contain information not found in the other.

I'm currently using both to draw up a time line for when and where each unit served for creation of an historical IL-2 campaign. I'm thinking of tackling the Philippines first as we don't have a map of Rabaul and Kavieng (yet).

There are at least two other books I know of but they are exceptionally rare. One is "The Bombers of MAGSZAM" by Raymond S. Berry (history of VMB-611) and the other is "Cram's Rams" by Thomas D. Honeycutt (history of VMB-612). If anyone knows where I can find either I would be forever in thier debt.

S!

obxgyrene
10-22-2008, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Crash_Moses:
You're welcome. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

There hasn't been a lot written about them either. "Leatherneck Bombers" by Alan C. Carey is probably the most detailed but is poorly organized and hard to follow without taking notes. "PBJ Mitchell Units of the Pacific War" by Jerry Scutts is well organized and easy to read but leaves out much of the detail found in the former. Both titles contain information not found in the other.

There are at least two other books I know of but they are exceptionally rare. One is "The Bombers of MAGSZAM" by Raymond S. Berry (history of VMB-611) and the other is "Cram's Rams" by Thomas D. Honeycutt (history of VMB-612). If anyone knows where I can find either I would be forever in thier debt.

S!

"PBJ Mitchell Units of the Pacific War" has some good photos, but is chock full of historical errors. "Leatherneck Bombers" by Alan Carey is much better as far as historical facts, although the book's cover illustration is inaccurate.

If you want the books "Bombers of MAGSZAM" and "Cram's Rams" check for a PM from me. I think getting copies of both are possible without a whole lot of cost.

Semper Fi,
OBXGyrene

seahorseblue
11-18-2008, 03:49 PM
Just joined. My father served in VMB-611 as a PBJ-1 pilot. Should you want more info on the squadron, please contact me. I can provide info on VMB-611's website and an update on Ray Perry's THE BOMBERS OF MAGSZAM.

In Their Memory and Honor, Semper Fi.
Dave