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mastergas
11-08-2006, 03:09 PM
bonjour je voulais faire une discussion en francais car j'ai rien d'autre a faire a le momentet jais une question aussi est-ce-que il a un mod pour change le language du jeux sh3 en francais

Minoos
11-08-2006, 03:25 PM
guten Tag wollte ich eine Diskussion in Franz??sisch machen, denn ich habe nichts anderes zu machen habe das Gagatmomentet eine Frage auch, hat er mod f??r Wechselkurs das language der Spiele sh3 in Franz??sisch
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Bootsmann0815
11-08-2006, 03:44 PM
Alas, je ne pas parle francaise. C'est la vie.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Use the vertical!

stabiz
11-08-2006, 03:47 PM
Mais, non!

Carotio
11-08-2006, 08:01 PM
Pour vous et toutes autres personnes qui voudraient discuter SH3 en francais, il y a un assez bon forum ici:

http://www.mille-sabords.com/forum/index.php?showforum=93

Il y a assez de personnes l?? qui utilisent ce petit programme, Tripartite, pour la traduction, mais puisque je pr??f??re mon jeu en allemand, je ne sais pas, si ca marche avec toutes les versions du jeu (GW, NYGM etc...)<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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mastergas
11-08-2006, 08:08 PM
merci pour se site une place que finalement je peux parle ma langue marternel sur sh3

Celeon999
11-09-2006, 06:32 AM
Mon dieux ... Je ne sais pas.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Nous avons des opinions politiques tr??s diff??rentes.

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Michiel_88
11-09-2006, 09:21 AM
americain pr??par??, accent circonflex, pass?? compos?? et parfois avec trois dans le bois.

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Celeon999
11-09-2006, 10:00 AM
pass?? compos??

futur proche ... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Why i have painted my plane red ? It would be unfair if they couldnt recognize that it is me who they are up against.
Everytime i shoot down a brit my hunting instinct is satisfied for another 15 minutes.

The Red Baron - Freiherr Manfred von Richthofen

WilhelmSchulz.
11-09-2006, 01:59 PM
We know that.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Bootsmann0815
11-09-2006, 02:21 PM
Well, I didn't know, and I'm somewhat disappointed too. On the up side, one less threat to worry about, I'm not a total historical accuracy buff. Playability and entertainment are just as important to me.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

Use the vertical!

Josef_Reiter
11-09-2006, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by JU88:
Well for me its ruined anyway.
According to people over at subsim the devs have confirmed that once again there will be no AI submarines (in SHIV)

Whilst I appreciate that they have tight deadlines to meet I still wonder...
why oh why is it so hard to write some AI for subs? Its not like its never been done before (SH 1 & 2 spring to mind)
It also means that once again modders will have no way to add other subs in the game later, unless they give them ship AI and 'Virtual torpeedos' like SH3..
Did they learn nothing from SH3?

So once again we play as the only submarine in the whole wide world.
Well thats just made me a whole lot less bothered about rushing out to buy SHIV.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Bitterly dissapointed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

There is allot more other things to worry about then AI Subs, i'd rather see more indepth game play and smashed bugs myself.

JU88
11-09-2006, 02:34 PM
For me AI subs was big part of 'in depth gameplay' SHIV will still be good - just not as good as it could have been.

I was planning on modeling some subs to add to the game via mods, i was thinking about doing couple of IJN boats, a british T-class and maybe something dutch, i could have possibly even ported the IXD2 over from sh3 as a mosun boat - absoloutly no point in doing any of this now. A real shame.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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A 'must have' feature
Fully operational AI subs are as important as AI ships and planes -They were there-. Please dont repeat SH3's biggest Short coming in SHIV.
Thank you

Kaleun1961
11-09-2006, 03:09 PM
Arrgghh! I think the only way to get a good commercial game would be for <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] to hire the GW mod team. Or leave something open so that the community could add AI subs to the game; i.e. script in the code of the game the ability for others to implement what the commercial timeline makes undoable at time of release of the game.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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JU88
11-09-2006, 03:36 PM
Modders have very limited capabilities, time and rescources

Devs just have limited time more than anything.

But Modders cannot build up on areas where the devs have totally failed to lay any foundations.

This where SH3 fell short, it was possible to create computer controlled ships and planes for SH3 as they had behavior coded in - but try make a submarine do anything (other than take a nap) and you hit a brick wall...
Roll on SHIV and the brick wall is back with barbed wire and broken glass topping.

Im very concerned that SHIVs modding capabilties show no real signs of improvement over SH3 and you should be too.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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A 'must have' feature
Fully operational AI subs are as important as AI ships and planes -They were there-. Please dont repeat SH3's biggest Short coming in SHIV.
Thank you

mw2000
11-09-2006, 03:51 PM
No AI subs will be made available in the sh4 release but they mentioned in the interview that future expansions could be made if successful in sales.

I am annoyed about this too but I will not write this game off just yet. I have basic modding skills and have attempted this but so much of this engine is hard-coded that a development kit is needed.

I agree with the kaleun1961 that greater access to this area is needed so other great modders can continue to make the game as it should be in the first place after <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] drops support of it in timeline/patches.

P.S. please make better aircraft than in sh3. The ship models were top class but aircaft did look basic and reminded me of aircraft out of flight simulator 97.

Kaleun1961
11-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Well, I'm not going to be suckered into something like, "If enough of you people buy our product we will improve it later on." That's not a binding agreement and if you think any company would hold themselves to it, then I'm sure there are some nice Nigerian oil company executives who could use your assistance with transferring surplus funds.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Josef_Reiter
11-09-2006, 04:29 PM
Hey nobodys twisting your arm to go buy SHIV are they, if you dont like it, don't play it... simple enough.

rodan54
11-09-2006, 04:30 PM
I thinnks it's safe to say that, yes, Japanese subs won't be included in SH4. However, I wouldn't completely rule out AI US subs. The develepers had this to say in the Subsim SH4 interview:

Ivica Paulisic, 30, Croatia: Will we have the opportunity to attack within a wolfpack and meet AI subs, too?

SH4 Dev Team: We know this feature is highly important for the community and so it is to us ??? even though Wolfpacks were more prominent in the Atlantic than in the PTO. We have it on our list for additional features, we are studying it, and if time allows, it will make it in the game.

So at least some form of AI subs are still a possibility.

Minoos
11-09-2006, 04:37 PM
I do agree with Kaleun1961.
He seems to have a grasp on how businesses are run in Nigeria ( Just the tip of the Iceberg http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif ).

So for the SHIV part, I just wished software companies would deliver finished products. They never seem to focus properly and deliver a finished product. There is always six month bfore major bugs are fixed..

Could they not build a stable core, then it would be fine to wait for improvements like AI? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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GoldenEagle8
11-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Well,now, if a game not-so-top-noch as Enigma rising tide can have AI subs that will actually try (and accomplish http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif) blowing the **** out of you, why can't a great game like SH? I mean, SH has ships calling other ships and planes back and forth, for reinforcements, and no AI subs? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif it's just sad.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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NaKacu
11-09-2006, 05:14 PM
if you dont like it, don't play it... simple enough

yep. that's rather simple. Simple = good. The point is not about just this specific aspect of the game (AI Subs) -- but about the simulation component in general. SH3 is a joke and SH4 seems to be trailing right behind it. And yes, anyone who preaches the "don???t like it, don't play it" thought will be happy to know that I will listen to their advice.

I am very skeptical about SH IV -- as I said before, things were promised before but little was delivered. So far, as a long time Sub Simulation Enthusiast, I am signing off from the idea of buying another cr@p product. I will let my wallet do the talking. I have to be convinced, not hyped up with some SH3 converted intro video. Kaleun1961 is right -- I won't be suckered into that for sure.

I'm with JU88... SH4 is on a good path to be considered ruined... Oh well <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">UBI[/b] -- better luck next time.

My original 2 cents on SH4 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/9631052983/p/12)

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3.JG51_Molders
11-09-2006, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by JU88:
Well for me its ruined anyway.
According to people over at subsim the devs have confirmed that once again there will be no AI submarines (in SHIV)

Whilst I appreciate that they have tight deadlines to meet I still wonder...
why oh why is it so hard to write some AI for subs? Its not like its never been done before (SH 1 & 2 spring to mind)
It also means that once again modders will have no way to add other subs in the game later, unless they give them ship AI and 'Virtual torpeedos' like SH3..
Did they learn nothing from SH3?

So once again we play as the only submarine in the whole wide world.
Well thats just made me a whole lot less bothered about rushing out to buy SHIV.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Bitterly dissapointed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

You know they aren't going to include Jap subs period ? To me that killed it completly...its simply SH3 with a new name slapped on the box. Its also why I stopped buying Ubisoft games as they are more interested in making money then actually listening to what the buyers would like to see. I'm holding onto a game called "Knights of the Sky" where the dev. team is active in their forums and is actually taking in suggestions and commenting on the developement of the WW1 flying simulation, that to me is worth $60.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Kaleun1961
11-09-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Josef_Reiter:
Hey nobodys twisting your arm to go buy SHIV are they, if you dont like it, don't play it... simple enough.

It's not a matter of "if I don't like it I won't play it." What will matter is if they [as they seem to be] teasing us with visions of AI subs, and then prefacing it with "if we have the time." If SH4 is indeed a worthy successor to SH3, I will buy it. But if it is SH3 repackaged, bugs and missing features then I won't pay the price of a new game for repackaged old stuff. Full price implies an investment of time and resources. Repackaging is more of an add-on and should be priced accordingly. But for me it isn't so much about the price. I can afford it. It is about being promised so much to get us on the hook and then selling us second rate goods. If that proves to be the case then I'll just stick with what I've already got. I'd even pay full price for a product that included proper fixes for SH3.

It's the same principle as with rock groups reissuing old songs on new records. They charge you full price without justification. Take for example my Led Zeppelin collection. I had all the albums on vinyl, then I bought them on CD. Now they are issuing "remasters." The same stuff, lick on a coat of paint and ask the price of a house for it. It's not like Page and Plant are going back into the studio for a year.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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JU88
11-09-2006, 06:17 PM
If they could write the stupid AI, Ill model the bloody subs and email it to them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
But there is about... let me see.... ZERO chance of that happening.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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A 'must have' feature
Fully operational AI subs are as important as AI ships and planes -They were there-. Please dont repeat SH3's biggest Short coming in SHIV.
Thank you

klcarroll
11-09-2006, 06:28 PM
You know, ??????..I am sometimes amazed by the ???Marketing Types??? employed by companies like <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b]: ??????.It seems as though they can???t see beyond the walls of their cubicles.

When you have an established winner like SH3, it shouldn???t be very hard to foresee that SH4 will have a similar success: ???..It???s a ???No Brainer???!

Furthermore, the fact that your customer base is whole-heartedly involved with writing mods and improvements should tell you that; A) You left your job only partially done, and B) Your market will easily bear the cost of a product done ???right???.

When you look at the hardware resources demanded by games of this caliber, you quickly come to appreciate that the cost of the game is really the smallest expense of the bunch! If <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] went the extra mile, and incorporated the features (and de-bugging) their customers are begging for, they could easily ask a higher retail price, ???..And get it!

I paid $49.95 for my copy of SH3: ???..If <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] offered an updated version, with the bugs fixed, and some of the aftermarket improvements included, I would HAPPILY pay $89.95 for the new version, and retire my original version to a place of honor on my bookshelf. Who among you wouldn???t?

That???s the message that needs to be sent to the ???Marketing Gurus??? who control the developer???s budget: ??????..???DO IT RIGHT, AND CHARGE US FOR IT!! ???.WE???LL PAY IT!!!!???

3.JG51_Molders
11-09-2006, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by klcarroll:
You know, ??????..I am sometimes amazed by the ???Marketing Types??? employed by companies like <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b]: ??????.It seems as though they can???t see beyond the walls of their cubicles.

When you have an established winner like SH3, it shouldn???t be very hard to foresee that SH4 will have a similar success: ???..It???s a ???No Brainer???!

Furthermore, the fact that your customer base is whole-heartedly involved with writing mods and improvements should tell you that; A) You left your job only partially done, and B) Your market will easily bear the cost of a product done ???right???.

When you look at the hardware resources demanded by games of this caliber, you quickly come to appreciate that the cost of the game is really the smallest expense of the bunch! If <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] went the extra mile, and incorporated the features (and de-bugging) their customers are begging for, they could easily ask a higher retail price, ???..And get it!

I paid $49.95 for my copy of SH3: ???..If <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] offered an updated version, with the bugs fixed, and some of the aftermarket improvements included, I would HAPPILY pay $89.95 for the new version, and retire my original version to a place of honor on my bookshelf. Who among you wouldn???t?

That???s the message that needs to be sent to the ???Marketing Gurus??? who control the developer???s budget: ??????..???DO IT RIGHT, AND CHARGE US FOR IT!! ???.WE???LL PAY IT!!!!???

Take IL2 Sturmovik for example, also marketed by Ubisoft. The original game in 2001 was great but had tons of bugs. Ubisoft did its job and addressed the majority of issues and released "IL2 Forgotten Battles". Great, i bought into it...then came along Aces Expansion pack, purely an add-on that was priced as high as IL2 FB which was a standalone. Waiting for the prices to drop, I noticed the "Gold pack" coming out that had IL2 FB and AEP bundled together all for the same price as AEP by itself. When I go to get the AEP standalone as I have no need for the gold pack, I find, the AEP standalone was discountined in my area and only the Gold pack was avaliable...DOH! I bit the bullet there and bought it reluctantly. Then, a few months later, came Pacific Fighters...fine and dandy, new theatre of operations, planes, and such...but basic flaws of the AI were still not being fixed since IL2 FB...so here I am buying $100-150 for the same thing, repackaged with some tweaks. Then again, the last add-on was Pacific Fighters. The final straw of my patience went when, to continue flying in my IL2 unit online, I was forced to buy a silly Pe2 add-on off the ubisoft UK website. Doesn't sound bad ? Wrong...I personally hate buying online and the fact that I had to pay $30 for a 200mb add-on that STILL did NOTHING to fix the basic flaws in the game that make playing single player a joke and only add-on three flyable planes, one of which I won't be flying that often, being the Pe2. Here I am being charged a ridiculous amount of money for an add-on I don't want but need to continue to play online...did I mention the $6 VAT charge as well ONLY because it I had to pay CDN to UK pounds ? Great marketing scam <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b]...I hate to turn this thread into something nasty but it had to be said.

EDIT: I wonder if this relates to SH4 ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

EDIT2: Here is something I am looking quite forward too and its not marketed by Ubisoft! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif But by Gennadich http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Prealpha screenshot of a Sopwith Camel from "Knights of the Sky" (http://www.gennadich.com/) Good bye IL2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

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Celeon999
11-10-2006, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by 3.JG51_Molders:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by klcarroll:
You know, ??????..I am sometimes amazed by the ???Marketing Types??? employed by companies like <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b]: ??????.It seems as though they can???t see beyond the walls of their cubicles.

When you have an established winner like SH3, it shouldn???t be very hard to foresee that SH4 will have a similar success: ???..It???s a ???No Brainer???!

Furthermore, the fact that your customer base is whole-heartedly involved with writing mods and improvements should tell you that; A) You left your job only partially done, and B) Your market will easily bear the cost of a product done ???right???.

When you look at the hardware resources demanded by games of this caliber, you quickly come to appreciate that the cost of the game is really the smallest expense of the bunch! If <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] went the extra mile, and incorporated the features (and de-bugging) their customers are begging for, they could easily ask a higher retail price, ???..And get it!

I paid $49.95 for my copy of SH3: ???..If <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b] offered an updated version, with the bugs fixed, and some of the aftermarket improvements included, I would HAPPILY pay $89.95 for the new version, and retire my original version to a place of honor on my bookshelf. Who among you wouldn???t?

That???s the message that needs to be sent to the ???Marketing Gurus??? who control the developer???s budget: ??????..???DO IT RIGHT, AND CHARGE US FOR IT!! ???.WE???LL PAY IT!!!!???

Take IL2 Sturmovik for example, also marketed by Ubisoft. The original game in 2001 was great but had tons of bugs. Ubisoft did its job and addressed the majority of issues and released "IL2 Forgotten Battles". Great, i bought into it...then came along Aces Expansion pack, purely an add-on that was priced as high as IL2 FB which was a standalone. Waiting for the prices to drop, I noticed the "Gold pack" coming out that had IL2 FB and AEP bundled together all for the same price as AEP by itself. When I go to get the AEP standalone as I have no need for the gold pack, I find, the AEP standalone was discountined in my area and only the Gold pack was avaliable...DOH! I bit the bullet there and bought it reluctantly. Then, a few months later, came Pacific Fighters...fine and dandy, new theatre of operations, planes, and such...but basic flaws of the AI were still not being fixed since IL2 FB...so here I am buying $100-150 for the same thing, repackaged with some tweaks. Then again, the last add-on was Pacific Fighters. The final straw of my patience went when, to continue flying in my IL2 unit online, I was forced to buy a silly Pe2 add-on off the ubisoft UK website. Doesn't sound bad ? Wrong...I personally hate buying online and the fact that I had to pay $30 for a 200mb add-on that STILL did NOTHING to fix the basic flaws in the game that make playing single player a joke and only add-on three flyable planes, one of which I won't be flying that often, being the Pe2. Here I am being charged a ridiculous amount of money for an add-on I don't want but need to continue to play online...did I mention the $6 VAT charge as well ONLY because it I had to pay CDN to UK pounds ? Great marketing scam <b style="color:black;background-color:#a0ffff">Ubi[/b]...I hate to turn this thread into something nasty but it had to be said.

EDIT: I wonder if this relates to SH4 ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

EDIT2: Here is something I am looking quite forward too and its not marketed by Ubisoft! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif But by Gennadich http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Prealpha screenshot of a Sopwith Camel from "Knights of the Sky" (http://www.gennadich.com/) Good bye IL2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

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I cant wait.



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Why i have painted my plane red ? It would be unfair if they couldnt recognize that it is me who they are up against.
Everytime i shoot down a brit my hunting instinct is satisfied for another 15 minutes.

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11-10-2006, 10:53 PM
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Celeon999
11-11-2006, 03:37 AM
Nous avons des opinions politiques tr??s diff??rentes.

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Why i have painted my plane red ? It would be unfair if they couldnt recognize that it is me who they are up against.
Everytime i shoot down a brit my hunting instinct is satisfied for another 15 minutes.

The Red Baron - Freiherr Manfred von Richthofen