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Jutocsa
07-26-2006, 05:19 PM
Hello folks. Again, im in need of good photos for making generic town and country buildings. Anything that wasnt built after the war would be great.
Churches, chapels, hotels, shops, telephone booth, contemporary ads, barns, mills, lighthouses,water towers, and any other village structure you can think of is basically whats needed. Feel free to post anything that falls into the cathegories above http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Thanks again for your help.

Ps: Pretty please, would it be possible to link this to GD too, to get more attention ? Thx

hamrtime
07-26-2006, 11:57 PM
Just wondering, are you a dev? I have nothing better to do so I'll do a google and see what I can do.

hamrtime
07-27-2006, 12:03 AM
These people will probably have a lot of pics if you ask them:

http://www.georgiangroup.org.uk/docs/about/index.php

Other pics:

http://www.wardlockredguides.co.uk/images/photos/London...20photo%20Strand.jpg (http://www.wardlockredguides.co.uk/images/photos/London%20c1940%20photo%20Strand.jpg)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Heinkel_He_III_over_London_7_Sep_1940.jpg

Thats all for now, hoped this helped

IAFS_Painter
07-27-2006, 01:57 AM
Jucosta, what part of the UK are you looking at?

Kent? You'll probably want to add Oast Houses to that list. Oast Houses? Hop drying kiln's(?) associated with 'bitter' (beer).

There are a couple of buildings on this page that can get you started:
http://www.robert-stuart.me.uk/walking/ox_way/index.html (The style sheet is bugged there sorry.)

The chapel at the bottom of that page is not, IMO, generic.


On Saturday or Sunday, I'll see what else I can find.

Jutocsa
07-27-2006, 02:10 AM
South, south east, exactly. Oast houses are a great idea, I saw some pic just didnt know how common they were in that area. Kinda like them anyway

DIRTY-MAC
07-27-2006, 04:33 AM
St peter port island between england and france


http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://mishami.im...Dsv%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN (http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://mishami.image.pbase.com/v3/34/582334/1/47412674.IMG_029501.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pbase.com/funkybassman/image/47412674&h=800&w=533&sz=139&hl=sv&start=51&tbnid=a6ZncifYh9Kv3M:&tbnh=143&tbnw=95&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dst%2Bpeter%2Bport%26start%3D40%26ndsp %3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dsv%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)

Castle Cornet, St Peter Port
http://www.gsydigimap.gov.gg/website/Antiquity/hotimages/GU100.jpg

lots of fotos
http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cipost...Dsv%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN (http://images.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://www.cipostcard.co.nz/guernsey/gyspp36.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.cipostcard.co.nz/grut.htm&h=286&w=450&sz=44&hl=sv&start=54&tbnid=CshGm5V5Wk-AZM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dst%2Bpeter%2Bport%26start%3D40%26ndsp %3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dsv%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)

Dunkelgrun
07-27-2006, 05:20 AM
Here are a few sites that may help:

Kent - http://www.digiserve.com/peter/fwd_to.htm
Images of England - http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/
Windmills - http://www.windmillworld.com/uk/kent.htm
http://www.windmillworld.com/uk/bwphotos.htm#kent (http://www.windmillworld.com/uk/bwphotos.htm#kentDover)
Dover Western Heights - http://www.members.tripod.com/JeffHowe/Mainpage.htm
London Docks - http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/docklands/8-ww2-1.html
Invasion Defences - http://www.geocities.com/thedashman_99/jumpstation.html

Cheers!

IAFS_Painter
07-27-2006, 06:41 AM
Ah yes, pill-boxes, from one of Dunkelgrun's links:
http://www.geocities.com/thedashman_99/surrey/brooklands/brooklands.html

IMO, and followin observation, pillboxes were placed to provide defence of a significant object or route, BUT, once engaged, the troops inside would have no escape.

WOLFMondo
07-27-2006, 07:03 AM
I'll take some photo's of Brighton and Hove for you. I might be able to get over to Newhaven as well.

Jutocsa
07-27-2006, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
I'll take some photo's of Brighton and Hove for you. I might be able to get over to Newhaven as well.

Sounds great http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Thanks for the links, Dunkelgrün and others, keep them coming.

WOLFMondo
07-28-2006, 04:53 AM
Allot of the houses in the UK are old 19th century terraced houses, most of the towns in on the southcoast are made up of similar houses, at least in 1940 they where:
http://emiliewood.com/photos/february2005/23-feb-05-colours2.jpg
http://emiliewood.com/photos/february2005/23-feb-05-colours1.jpg
Even the posh ones:
http://www.lookingatbuildings.org.uk/img_hr/Brighton_CA3.jpg

All telephone boxes were of the old red iron type, police boxes looked just like the tardice from Doctor Who, no kidding.

http://www.christopherholt.com/wallpaper/telephone_box_bus_01.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/10/15354907_e537b6016f.jpg

I'll find some links for you of some good stereotyped British buildings you'd see on the south coast. You could probably get away with building two types of church as well, 11th Century Norman style and later gothic style churches.
Gothic church, I also have some high res photo's at home that I got when I did the Pier for you if you want them?
http://website.lineone.net/~sussex-photos/StPetersBrighton.jpg (http://website.lineone.net/%7Esussex-photos/StPetersBrighton.jpg)

Most of the older Churches look like this on the southcoast:
http://website.lineone.net/~sussex-photos/StNicholasBrighton1.jpg (http://website.lineone.net/%7Esussex-photos/StNicholasBrighton1.jpg)
http://www.stevebulman.f9.co.uk/churches/images/e_sus/brighton.jpg
Note the use of flint and sandstone. Its 11th Century with additional structures added over the last 800 years. The tower is very battered because of acid rain wear on the sand stone.


Brighton station is another great building, so many stations in London and the towns in the UK look very much the same:
http://www.mybrightonandhove.org.uk/Images/brighton_station_aerial.jpg

Don't forget, if your gonna do UK buildings, you need to have castles!
Bodium
http://www.castles-abbeys.co.uk/Bodiam-Castle/bodiam_fm_se.JPG
http://www.caravancampingsites.co.uk/eastsussex/tn325xa1.jpg
http://www.thewonderingeye.co.uk/Images/Large/bodiam_castle.jpg
Arundel
http://www.george-macdonald.com/images/arundel/arundel_castle01.jpg
http://www.castles-abbeys.co.uk/Arundel-castle/arundel-keep.jpg
http://www.sussexgallery.co.uk/images/arundel_castle_v2.jpg
Pevensy - This castle actually was used in WW2. New defences were put in but were done using local materials and in such a way to camoflage it with the original 11th Century Norman buildings and 4th Century Roman buidings. Couldn't ask for a more worthy structure to be in SOWBOB!
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/upload/img_400/se_pevensey_castle_01.jpg
http://bowlsatlindfield.homestead.com/files/senicsuspag...y_castle___roman.jpg (http://bowlsatlindfield.homestead.com/files/senicsuspage___pevensey_castle___roman.jpg)
Dover Castle was also a strategically important site in WW2.
http://www.***gfamily.fsworld.co.uk/subdirectory/dover_...le_from_the_sky2.jpg (http://www.***gfamily.fsworld.co.uk/subdirectory/dover_castle_from_the_sky2.jpg)
YOu can see Dovers port behind it, closest port to France.

edradour
07-28-2006, 07:01 AM
If you are going for castles, Leeds Castle near Maidston would be pretty

Dont let the name confuse you - Leeds Kent, not Yorkshire

http://www.castles.org/castles/Europe/Western_Europe/Un...eeds-Leeds/Leeds.htm (http://www.castles.org/castles/Europe/Western_Europe/United_Kingdom/England/Leeds-Leeds/Leeds.htm)

Links to other English castles here: http://www.castles.org/castles/Europe/Western_Europe/United_Kingdom/England/

Jutocsa
07-28-2006, 07:30 AM
Thanks, but like I said, I only need generic buildings and surroundings now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Major unique buildings were already picked, its not my decision.

Tater-SW-
07-28-2006, 09:18 AM
Make sure the "placed ob ject" trees available have at least some that are the exact same height as whatever technology you plan on doing for large, "fixed to the map" forests.

tater

WOLFMondo
07-28-2006, 09:20 AM
You misunderstand, castles here are not unique but everywhere!

Another very common building in on the south coast, on the beaches, are beach huts.

http://www.brighton-net.com/pictures/huts.jpg
http://www.headstar.com/images/beach-huts.jpg

If there is a coastal town, it will have plenty of these on the beach front. Brigthon, Eastbourne, Bournmouth Littlehampton etc all have a ton of these for a very long time.

Tater-SW-
07-28-2006, 10:14 AM
Seems like it would make sense to create a few generic castles built out of parts that could be rotated when assembled to create many different shapes.

A square, an L shape, and some straight wall segmnents, all designed to create smaller castles (more properly "estates" since I imaging many were not designed strictly for military operations, but as large homes for lesser peers).

tater

WOLFMondo
07-28-2006, 02:51 PM
That would be pretty easy as Castle in the UK are unique but all fit one of three formations depending on there time of building. I have a feeling someone doesn't want castle thoughhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Jutocsa
07-28-2006, 07:17 PM
Generic puzzle-like castle parts are a good idea and i will ask about them. But again, its not that i dont want castles, but I am being told whats necessery and whats urgent, and right now its generic buildings http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif So, generic buildings it will be http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bogustogus
07-29-2006, 06:03 AM
Jutocsa, I know a couple of books that might help. One is called "Battle of Britain - then & now" and the other is called "RAF Biggin Hill" by Graham Wallace.

Both give an excellent insight in terms of "how things would need to look". The photographs in the "battle of britain" book are countless and show much more than just airfields. I wouldn't be surprised if that one book would do to model rural villages, downtown streets, airfield perimeters, mess buildings, hangars, blast pens, control towers, vehicles used and loads of other stuff....

No601_prangster
07-29-2006, 06:15 AM
Have a look at Microsofts http://local.live.com/

Many parts of the UK have 'Birdseye' oblique aerial photos from all four angles and should prove very useful for modelling.

http://www.ijeremiah.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Victory.jpg
HMS Victory in Portsmouth Harbour

WOLFMondo
07-29-2006, 06:47 AM
Totally OT but the Royal Navy sure has allot of its ships in dock there when that image was taken. Pretty rare to see two carriers in dock at the same time.

heywooood
07-29-2006, 10:14 AM
all I have is this bump

Jutocsa
07-30-2006, 02:58 AM
and my bump

Nick_Toznost
07-30-2006, 04:22 AM
Probably best not to over-do oast houses. Oast houses should be placed mostly in middle to west Kent.

East Kent was more coal mining than beer brewing during the war- small villages with purpose built miner's cottages. Eastry, Snowdown, Betteshangar etc. All areas that the Luftwaffe would have flown over.

I can't seem to find a picture of a Miner's cottage but they are very small 2 storey houses with 4 rooms. Rather like the way children draw houses.

I live in east Kent, I'll try and take some photos and post them on here next week if the topic is still open.

thefruitbat
07-30-2006, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Nick_Toznost:
Probably best not to over-do oast houses. Oast houses should be placed mostly in middle to west Kent.

East Kent was more coal mining than beer brewing during the war- small villages with purpose built miner's cottages. Eastry, Snowdown, Betteshangar etc. All areas that the Luftwaffe would have flown over.

I can't seem to find a picture of a Miner's cottage but they are very small 2 storey houses with 4 rooms. Rather like the way children draw houses.

I live in east Kent, I'll try and take some photos and post them on here next week if the topic is still open.

where abouts do u live, i'm east kent to, not far from canterbury? Your right about the mines as well. I hope the towers at reculver will be in to, a major landmark from the air for kents northcoast. Oh, and theres an oast house about 10 doors down from me.

cheers fruitbat

Nick_Toznost
07-30-2006, 04:51 AM
Fruitbat,
I'm living in Margate at the moment, a bit north of the area I was describing, though I just moved from Sandwich where I lived for most of my life, it's certainly an area I know well. I'm in Canterbury a fair amount as I'm a student at CCCU.

Ashford railway station could be another detail to include in the game. As far as I know despite all efforts to confuse German navigation such as the blackout and the removal of roadsigns, Ashford station had ASHFORD written in huge letters on the roof as a navigation aid to British pilots (as it was a major rail junction, they could follow the railway lines to a variety of destinations).

I can't seem to find any reference to it on the net, but there's a photo of it in a book that I need to dig out.....I'll scan it in and post if anyone's interested.

I appreciate that this is about generic buildings but thought I'd mention it as I thought it was an interesting fact.

alphalvr
07-30-2006, 09:23 AM
oh wow i cant wait to see all the `RED` classic phone boxes scattered through the towns and villages

bjparker
07-30-2006, 09:41 AM
Don't forget that many Bungalows were built in the 1930s in the South East.

Try looking at estate agent's (realtors in US?) sites like www.rightmove.co.uk (http://www.rightmove.co.uk) an type in place names like "Canterbury"

BJP

Jutocsa
07-30-2006, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by Nick_Toznost:
I live in east Kent, I'll try and take some photos and post them on here next week if the topic is still open.

Sure, I will keep bumping it as long as possible http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

heywooood
07-30-2006, 09:57 AM
how about a sticky bump...you know, the bump that sticks...sticky bump?

Fritz_75
07-30-2006, 10:25 AM
Hello all!

Jutocsa:
What specifications have the team given you for the buildings: Faces, tries and texture size...??

Who is your contact at 1c? Can he make a list of all the things that they need?

I'm making furniture for the airfields. Currently I'm modeling a table with two different chairs. The chairs have a face limit of 12 and the table has a face limit of 10, so its a challange to make them look good. The texturesize allowed is 256*256 witch will hold 2 different chairtextures and the table.

Regards Henrik

heywooood
07-30-2006, 10:41 AM
well - thats interesting...about the furniture I mean.

Jutocsa
07-30-2006, 11:58 PM
His name is Lykov Kuzma, he checks on my finished works, the lists I get is either from him or Oleg. And I dont really have a definite poly limit, just have to stay within reasonable limits. Textures are between 1x512x512 and a couple 1024x1024

Foo.bar
07-31-2006, 02:53 AM
His name is Lykov Kuzma, he checks on my finished works

One of the best http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Good to hear you make buildings, Viktor http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dunkelgrun
07-31-2006, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by thefruitbat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick_Toznost:
Probably best not to over-do oast houses. Oast houses should be placed mostly in middle to west Kent.

East Kent was more coal mining than beer brewing during the war- small villages with purpose built miner's cottages. Eastry, Snowdown, Betteshangar etc. All areas that the Luftwaffe would have flown over.

I can't seem to find a picture of a Miner's cottage but they are very small 2 storey houses with 4 rooms. Rather like the way children draw houses.

I live in east Kent, I'll try and take some photos and post them on here next week if the topic is still open.

where abouts do u live, i'm east kent to, not far from canterbury? Your right about the mines as well. I hope the towers at reculver will be in to, a major landmark from the air for kents northcoast. Oh, and theres an oast house about 10 doors down from me.

cheers fruitbat </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I sent Oleg a whole load of info and wartime mapping about East Kent not long after BoB was announced, including prominent landmarks such as Reculver. He said that they wanted more but whether or not he took any notice I don't know because initially they lost the disk, then when it was rediscovered I never heard whether it was of any use to them.

Annoying really, as I was prepared to do all the research necessary so that chaps like Jutocsa wouldn't need to be asking for info at this late stage.

Back down in East Kent (Minster) myself next week, visiting the aged parents, so I'll see if I can get some pics.

Cheers!

Foo.bar
07-31-2006, 05:48 AM
They lost that disc?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Dunkelgrun
07-31-2006, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Foo.bar:
They lost that disc?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Yeah, but they did find it again. Last I ever heard though. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Cheers!

Jutocsa
07-31-2006, 02:31 PM
They did find it I guess, because I got reference for some of the landmark buildings, and quite some houses. Just not enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thefruitbat
07-31-2006, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thefruitbat:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nick_Toznost:
Probably best not to over-do oast houses. Oast houses should be placed mostly in middle to west Kent.

East Kent was more coal mining than beer brewing during the war- small villages with purpose built miner's cottages. Eastry, Snowdown, Betteshangar etc. All areas that the Luftwaffe would have flown over.

I can't seem to find a picture of a Miner's cottage but they are very small 2 storey houses with 4 rooms. Rather like the way children draw houses.

I live in east Kent, I'll try and take some photos and post them on here next week if the topic is still open.

where abouts do u live, i'm east kent to, not far from canterbury? Your right about the mines as well. I hope the towers at reculver will be in to, a major landmark from the air for kents northcoast. Oh, and theres an oast house about 10 doors down from me.

cheers fruitbat </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I sent Oleg a whole load of info and wartime mapping about East Kent not long after BoB was announced, including prominent landmarks such as Reculver. He said that they wanted more but whether or not he took any notice I don't know because initially they lost the disk, then when it was rediscovered I never heard whether it was of any use to them.

Annoying really, as I was prepared to do all the research necessary so that chaps like Jutocsa wouldn't need to be asking for info at this late stage.

Back down in East Kent (Minster) myself next week, visiting the aged parents, so I'll see if I can get some pics.

Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whoa, small world. I live in monkton, the next village down!!!

trumper
08-01-2006, 03:09 AM
Foxbat said,QUOTE "Whoa, small world. I live in monkton, the next village down!!![/QUOTE]

Don't go drinking with Dunkelgrun,he's a pro alchy LOL,only kidding.What Dunkelgrun does'nt know about roads,mapping etc is'nt worth knowing,Oleg has shot himself in the foot by not following up on Dunkelgruns offers of help.

Dunkelgrun
08-01-2006, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by trumper:
Foxbat said,<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "Whoa, small world. I live in monkton, the next village down!!!

Don't go drinking with Dunkelgrun,he's a pro alchy LOL,only kidding.What Dunkelgrun does'nt know about roads,mapping etc is'nt worth knowing,Oleg has shot himself in the foot by not following up on Dunkelgruns offers of help. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh I say - my character has been assassinated! Well, some of it anyway.

Fancy a pint in the Saddlers next week fruitbat? The White Stag was always **** so I don't go there (not that the Saddlers is much better these days).

Cheers!

Jutocsa
08-01-2006, 08:49 AM
Ohh dear...whats happening to my humble ask-for-help thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dunkelgrun
08-01-2006, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Jutocsa:
Ohh dear...whats happening to my humble ask-for-help thread http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Don't worry m8, I'll try and get you some pics next week.

Cheers!

Jutocsa
08-02-2006, 04:17 AM
That sounds good enough to me mate http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

In the meantime, could anyone tell me, what type of houses are the most common in rural areas ? Sepaking of south, south-east. Small simple two-storey huts as mentioned before, or old Tudor-style buildings, semi-detached things, or somewhat larger but still simple huts, or single-storey houses (basically i was unable to find any of those..) ?

Dunkelgrun
08-02-2006, 05:49 AM
Mainly, although not exclusively, two-storey cottages. There is a lot of red-brick and red tile-roofed houses in the south-east, esp in The Weald, but a lot in Kent are weatherboarded. Weatherboards are horizontal planks that cover the sides of the house, and quite often painted white.
Some houses have thatched roofs rather than tiles. Almost every village will also have one or two 'grander' houses, three-storey Georgian for example, where the vicar or local bigwig lived.
Not too many single-storey houses in the south-east, although bungalows were being built before the war.

Cheers!

thefruitbat
08-02-2006, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by trumper:
Foxbat said,<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> "Whoa, small world. I live in monkton, the next village down!!!

Don't go drinking with Dunkelgrun,he's a pro alchy LOL,only kidding.What Dunkelgrun does'nt know about roads,mapping etc is'nt worth knowing,Oleg has shot himself in the foot by not following up on Dunkelgruns offers of help. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh I say - my character has been assassinated! Well, some of it anyway.

Fancy a pint in the Saddlers next week fruitbat? The White Stag was always **** so I don't go there (not that the Saddlers is much better these days).

Cheers! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can always be pursuaded to have a pint!! Your right about the white stag, the owner is a *****. Saddlers sounds good.

Jutocsa, i've been takeing my camera around the last few days, and have got some pre war buildings, thatched cottages, rural farm buildings and cottages from some of the outlying villages from me (near manston airport) including my pad. Theres a few more i can think off that are good general types that i will be able to get later in the week.

cheers fruitbat

thefruitbat
08-02-2006, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by Dunkelgrun:
Mainly, although not exclusively, two-storey cottages. There is a lot of red-brick and red tile-roofed houses in the south-east, esp in The Weald, but a lot in Kent are weatherboarded. Weatherboards are horizontal planks that cover the sides of the house, and quite often painted white.
Some houses have thatched roofs rather than tiles. Almost every village will also have one or two 'grander' houses, three-storey Georgian for example, where the vicar or local bigwig lived.
Not too many single-storey houses in the south-east, although bungalows were being built before the war.

Cheers!

This is pretty much spot on, although i would add there is quite a few slate roofs around as well, although red tile is prevelant.

cheers fruitbat

Jutocsa
08-02-2006, 07:42 PM
Thanks Fruitbat :) Could you send what you have got so far ? I desperately need something as soon as possible. Please send it to szalai.viktor@saturnsoft.hu or just upload it somewhere, whatever suits you. And thanks for your help

thefruitbat
08-03-2006, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Jutocsa:
Thanks Fruitbat :) Could you send what you have got so far ? I desperately need something as soon as possible. Please send it to szalai.viktor@saturnsoft.hu or just upload it somewhere, whatever suits you. And thanks for your help

Right, i've uploaded some to photbucket so you can see if it the kind of thing you are after.

If this is the kind of stuff you are after i can send you the originals, which are 1.3meg each, much better quality, or however you want them.

The pictures are taken from 2 different villages, and are pretty representative from villages in my area (SE Kent). Theres a couple of schools, a village hall, old vicerage, 2 churchs, and a variety of differnet styles of houses.

Everything in the photos is pre WWII, most by alot. A few things to consider are that while some houses in the photos have been rendered and painted, most houses i have seen in photos from the villages show either brickwork or whitewash. oh and obviously there was no double glazing.

If there is anything that you would particuarly like more of, or something else let me know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Oh something else that might interest you is a 1m long print (made from 3 individual) i have of dover taken in 1901. Its pretty good for showing town houses, although its obviously black and white.

heres the links anyway:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01957.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01956.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01958.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01959.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01960.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01961.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01962.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01966.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01984.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01983.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01982.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01981.jpg (my househttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01980.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01979.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01978.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01975.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01974.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01973.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01955.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01954.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01953.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01952.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01951.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01972.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01970.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01969.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01968.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/thefruitbat1/DSC01967.jpg


Anyway hope this helps, and just let me know if i can do more for you.

cheers fruitbat

Nick_Toznost
08-03-2006, 11:00 AM
I'm a bit late I think.

Looks like Fruitbat's provided all the stuff you need, it's a great cross section of rural kent buildings. (saves me a trip out with the camera I suppose).

Something else that occured to me, is the perfect grid pattern (very distinctive when viewed aerially) of Victorian terraced houses, like the ones in Fruitbat's last photo. These houses were built on the cheap and hence had gardens that backed on to each other forming a perfect grid. Most towns and villages would have at least had a street or two of these in 1940.

I've been quite bored this afternoon so I've made a pointless diagram of how they'd look from the air. It's of no use to anyone, but perhaps it's worth a laugh. The houses in the photo are 1930s I think but built in the same style, obviously without double glazing.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Nick_Toznost/hhhhgh.jpg

The Isle of Thanet,(around Manston airport) being a former major tourist destination has some of the wierdest architecture in the UK. There's nothing really "generic" about any of it. Gothic revival, huge opulant terraces, acres of farmland, a modern (1920s) castle, loads of peculiar follies, that sort of thing. Obviously BoB is a combat flight sim not a sightseeing tour but I thought I'd throw in a postcard of Wellington crescent in Ramsgate.

The postcard is from 1910 but shows what a "posh" area it was at the time. In 1939 that bandstand was replaced with a huge anti aircraft gun. A BF110 tried to take the thing out in 1940 but ended up smashing into the right hand side of the terrace demolishing a large section of it.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b397/Nick_Toznost/163325c0.jpg

In the background, that thing with the flagpole, is the Granville Tower designed by the eccentric, syphilis-ridden 19th century architect Edward Pugin. It serves no purpose other than an architectural peculiarity. Can be seen for miles around. Whoops, this is getting majorly OT, sorry.

Jutocsa
08-03-2006, 03:37 PM
Never too late Nick, the more photos of those things mentioned in my first post, the better. Dunkelgrün is also going to make some photos next week, thats still way in time.

Fruitbat, nice stuff, exactly what I need. Could you send me the originals then, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif?
And since you asked, I still need more generic stuff, stables, barns, fences, mills, whatever agricultural building you can think of.

darelc
08-04-2006, 03:45 AM
Here are some wartime aerial south-east pictures that will probably give some ideas about how the types of buildings are clustered..

http://www.francisfrith.com/archive/england/

Choose which counties you want to see for example, kent, and canterbury, (click on the thumbnail, and then on the expansion to get the full size)

http://www.francisfrith.com/archive/england/kent/canterbury/aerial/

there are thousands of wartime building photographs on there..

I guess the counties you should look for are

Berkshire
Buckinghamshire
East Sussex
Hampshire
Isle of Wight
Kent
Oxfordshire
Surrey
West Sussex
(and London for some of the suburbs of london).

I think the following modern picture shows how most villages in England probably looked around that time

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:20031012-002-houses-st-albans.jpg

mostly terraced

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Terraced_houses_at_fortuneswell.jpg

Hope that helps?

Dunkelgrun
08-04-2006, 04:30 AM
LOL Fruitbat, I see that you've got both the Saddlers and the Bell in your pics; plus what was the White Horse. My folks are in the bungalows round the back of there.

Not much point in me taking snaps of Minster then, you've got it well covered.
I'll still get some more next week Jutocsa; I'll travel a bit further afield to Wingham and Sandwich etc.

Cheers!

PS Fruitbat check your PMs.

heywooood
08-04-2006, 06:23 PM
a bumble hump...errrm humble bump for the piccies

thefruitbat
08-06-2006, 03:55 AM
Originally posted by Jutocsa:
Never too late Nick, the more photos of those things mentioned in my first post, the better. Dunkelgrün is also going to make some photos next week, thats still way in time.

Fruitbat, nice stuff, exactly what I need. Could you send me the originals then, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif?
And since you asked, I still need more generic stuff, stables, barns, fences, mills, whatever agricultural building you can think of.

Sorry, i havent been home for a few days, when i get back to my pc i'll send them, should be sunday evening hopefully. I've also got some farm buildings and windmills now as well.

cheers fruitbat

Jutocsa
08-07-2006, 08:16 AM
Sounds great, Im waiting for them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thefruitbat
08-07-2006, 01:12 PM
hopefully you should now have them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

let me know if there was any problems,

cheers fruitbat

Jutocsa
08-07-2006, 02:49 PM
Got them without any problem, thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

thefruitbat
08-07-2006, 03:11 PM
i'm actually working on a farm at the moment, and have got a couple of buildings from it. Ironically though, most of the pre 1940 farm buildings were destroyed in 1940 as there was a search light battery there, on the approach to canterbury. Unfortunatley the farm got battered.

work allowing (actually more like weather) i'll be able to go around a few other places before the weekend and will try to get more farm stuff.

do you want things like railway bridges, stations etc as well?

Glad to be of help,

fruitbat

Jutocsa
08-07-2006, 03:29 PM
Sure, bridges, watchtowers, malls, whatever you think might be useful http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

major_setback
08-07-2006, 05:34 PM
Hi Jutocsa!
I just got back from holiday, I'm happy to hear that things are progressing nicely.
There was a preview picture of the finished model of The Houses of Parliament (for Oleg's BoB) in the last issue of PC Pilot. Did you do that? I remember you said you were going to do a number of buildings for BoB. It looked excellent!!

Did you notice that I added a lot of pictures of Hampton Court to your last request post (here)

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/190...751097414#4751097414 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/1901092014?r=4751097414#4751097414)

Here's some pictures from another earlier post:

Salisbury 1944:
http://www.virtualgalleries.com/Img0079zxx.jpg

Neo Georgian architecture 1936:
http://www.homeownersales.co.uk/images/jpeg/large/1930_4.jpg

1940's detached house:
http://www.homeownersales.co.uk/images/jpeg/large/1911pic4.jpg

Damage:
http://www.stockportexpress.co.uk/ContentResources/310....llery_5054_Image.jpg (http://www.stockportexpress.co.uk/ContentResources/310.$plit/C_58_ImageGallery_5054_Image.jpg)

Keep up the good work!!!

Jutocsa
08-07-2006, 05:48 PM
Yes, I did the Parliament, it was a nice complex thing to build http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif And thanks for pointing me to your new pics, it seems that I forgot to check that topic.

Fritz_75
08-08-2006, 04:47 AM
Jutocsa: Are you allowed to show us previews of what you make? If you are I would love to see some exsamples!!

Is there any news on the list of wanted things from OM? Does your contact know that many people want to contribute to the game?

Cheers Henrik

Jutocsa
08-08-2006, 05:45 AM
Never asked if I am allowed or not, but its kinda obvious that Im not http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Believe me Id like to show off some stuff too, but thats just how it is.
List of wanted things from OM ? Right now, what Ive posted in this thread is it. And later on same stuff from France http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Fritz_75
08-08-2006, 11:55 AM
Jutocsa: Well I'm not sure that it is not allowed to show models in progress. Take a look at this link:

http://forums-de.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/3751020023/m/2181080123

He is allowed to show his progress, so why not you?

Do you have any limits regarding face count, texture size and so on? Or do you have an e-mail adress for your contact at 1c?

I would like to have a go at the buildings in France, so it would be nice to have those limitations before I begin.

Hope to see something from you soon :-)


Best regards

Henrik

Jutocsa
08-08-2006, 01:14 PM
Pm sent, Fritz

KG26_Alpha
08-08-2006, 03:07 PM
Justoca

Heres some more pic I hope will help

They are more the odd type of sub stately building dotted around the South East, these are from Canturbury Kent area but this type of style can be seen around the SE UK.

The Tudor shop row and monument is Canturbury town centre area the style of the shops is quite typical even though these are higher than normal.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0516.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0534.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0536.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0537.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0538.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0540.jpg
Sorry on the quality 40 mph snapshot from car window.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0541.jpg

Jutocsa
08-08-2006, 03:12 PM
Nice ones ! Thanks, I love the Tudor ones especially

major_setback
08-08-2006, 10:18 PM
I hope these help.

Tudor shops in Chester:

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~holmes2/PhotoAlbum/Family/chester.jpg (http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/%7Eholmes2/PhotoAlbum/Family/chester.jpg)

Yorkshire 1900:

http://home.btconnect.com/geffers/SMALL_pickering.jpg



Rail bridge/viaduct 1930 (and later):

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/loughborough0.jpg

1936 rail bridge:

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/loughborough2.jpg


http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/atlantic.jpg

http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/ww2-pix/london10.jpg


http://www.cwn.org.uk/heritage/images/df/coventry/stone...bridge-1915-w400.jpg (http://www.cwn.org.uk/heritage/images/df/coventry/stoney-stanton-road-rail-bridge-1915-w400.jpg)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roncoombs/Deptford%20High%...railway%20bridge.jpg (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roncoombs/Deptford%20High%20Street%20showing%20railway%20bri dge.jpg)

1940 railway arches (Railway to London and Dover €¦)

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/station_rd6.jpg



Rail bridge (country):

http://www.manxscenes.com/01&2/July/2.jpg

http://www.saveblackheathcommon.com/Pictures/5.Railway%...f%20Sandy%20Lane.jpg (http://www.saveblackheathcommon.com/Pictures/5.Railway%20Bridge%20at%20foot%20of%20Sandy%20Lane .jpg)



1905 street:

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/loughborough12.jpg



Railway notice:

http://www.btp.police.uk/History%20Society/Images/Histo...20(Daily%20Mail).jpg (http://www.btp.police.uk/History%20Society/Images/History%20Society/Wartime%20Duties/ID%20Check%20South%20Coast%20(Daily%20Mail).jpg)


Large town pub:

http://www.urban75.org/brixton/history/images/canning.jpg


Posters (British):

http://content.lib.washington.edu/posters/image/40323181272002_4.jpg


http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...pictures/digvic1.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/digvic1.jpg)


http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/homefront/spies/graphics/p_s2.jpg

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...pictures/digvic2.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/digvic2.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...pictures/digvic4.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/digvic4.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%.../foodconvoypostr.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/foodconvoypostr.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...readposterlarger.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/savebreadposterlarger.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...pictures/digvic5.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/digvic5.jpg)

http://www.macksites.com/images/dig2.jpg


http://www.macksites.com/images/dig1.jpg

ads:

http://www.macksites.com/images/ww2oxo.jpg


More WW II posters on this site:
http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Docs/foodadverts.html

Air raid shelter for gardens:

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...on-cutaway-large.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/abderson-cutaway-large.jpg)


http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/LARGE%20PHOTO%20GALLERY...sheltermakelarge.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/LARGE%20PHOTO%20GALLERY%20PAGES/Large%20images/sheltermakelarge.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...eltpuberectlarge.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/sheltpuberectlarge.jpg)


http://www.macksites.com/images/anderlon.jpg


Public shelter:

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...ssheltbuiltlarge.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/morissheltbuiltlarge.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...ssheltbuiltlarge.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/morissheltbuiltlarge.jpg)


http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...regualtionslarge.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Large%20pictures/Shelterregualtionslarge.jpg)

Gas powered car/bus:

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...rol-rastion-home.jpg (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20main%20Images/petrol-rastion-home.jpg)

http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%...trol%20Rationing.htm (http://www.worldwar2exraf.co.uk/Online%20Museum/Museum%20Docs/Petrol%20Rationing.htm)

http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/virtual/online_exhibitions/tr...r/images/gas_bus.jpg (http://www.ltmuseum.co.uk/virtual/online_exhibitions/transportatwar/images/gas_bus.jpg)


Croydon aerodrome London (aerial):

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/oliver.merrington/lidos/purley1945.jpg

Traffic lights:

http://www.303rdbg.com/pp-rainbowcorner.jpg

http://homepage.eircom.net/~finnegam/war/images/blitz.2.gif (http://homepage.eircom.net/%7Efinnegam/war/images/blitz.2.gif)

signs:

http://www.authentichistory.com/ww2/news/images/1940_battle_of_britain_02.jpg


Womens Volunteer Service tea van/canteen:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2005/06/28/canteen_203x152.jpg

bus:

http://www.photonet.org.uk/content/images/3_1479_hZuSLXcpCg-324x324.jpg


http://www.circlecity.co.uk/wartime/history/bus.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/BlitzLondon.jpg

Ambulance:

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/newspapers/operations/image...hreatbritain_min.gif (http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/newspapers/operations/images/Invasionthreatbritain_min.gif)

major_setback
08-09-2006, 05:43 AM
Telephone boxes -

History of Telephone kiosques:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/kiosk.htm#k1


Phone box 1920-1931, this picture is from a village (Tyneham) that was evacuated in 1943 for war training purposes. They would have probably been a little bit dated in the war, but still used. This type of box is very uncommon (note the original war posters inside):

http://i.pbase.com/u47/marc_paull/large/30368408.2828Phonebox.jpg

http://www.londonleben.co.uk/london_leben/images/tynehamphone.jpg

http://flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/183306580/



http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/gpo/pictures/k1.jpg

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/k1.htm

Later box (1927-), this is more common:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/pictures/k2.jpg

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/gpo/pictures/k2ext.jpg

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/gpo/pictures/k2int.jpg

more:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/freshwater/gpo/pictures/k4.jpg

Tyneham boxes, close-up pictures:


http://flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/183306577/in/set-72157594189461768/


http://flickr.com/photos/barryslemmings/183306578/in/set-72157594189461768/

KG26_Alpha
08-09-2006, 01:28 PM
Justoca.

This link has probaly been shown to you before.

http://www.ideal-homes.org.uk/index1a.html

Also

The Greater London area was a huge building site throughout the 1930's 40's & 50's, with the suburban sprawl going in all directions out of London.

The main Builders South east london were Mesers Brazier, Feakes & Ridchards, & Stevens, these were the most prolific up to the late 50's

*********************************************

Some town houses and Tudor type, more related to older type well established towns all over Kent. These from the Rye area in Kent.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0542.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0543.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0544.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0545.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0546.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0547.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0548.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0552.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0553.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0554.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0555.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0556.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0557.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0558.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0561.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0562.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0563.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0564.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0565.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0570.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0571.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0572.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0573.jpg

Hastings Eastern coastline, I hope they get the coastlines right in BoB http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/DSCN0582.jpg

Dunkelgrun
08-09-2006, 02:21 PM
Good pics Alpha, although Rye is in Sussex http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Jutocsa, notice the weatherboarding on a lot of these; most often painted white on houses, black on farm buildings, although sometimes left as bare wood. Some houses have weatherboarding on the upper storeys only, some down to the ground; there's no hard and fast rule.
Also notice the buildings with red tiles hanging on the walls; upper floors only where used, almost without exception.

London as a building site. All building of domestic housing was stopped for the war years, as all necessary men and materiel was needed for military construction projects. Part-built housing estates were left unfinished until after 1945.

Cheers!

KG26_Alpha
08-09-2006, 02:28 PM
Woops

Ive been out all day today from Dungeness to Brighton forgot my counties there lol, been a long day for me. I popped into Rye on the way to Brighton then home to London, just forgot to separate the explanation line better, glad you like the pics.

The building of Greater London was interupted by the war of course, but Building work didnt stop untill "the big push" all hands to the deck.

The link I provided shows some construction dates, generally speaking building work probally diverted from housing estates to "other" projects for the war effort once in full swing, prefabricated housing was also used at some point, but the official start line for BoB may have to be blurred for the date of actually starting at a particular point historically.

Anyhow Im knackered and gonna be at Fort Halstead bright n early,

S!

Thxz

Dunkelgrun
08-09-2006, 03:41 PM
A couple of rural barns:

Typical large farm barn. Note the unpainted weatherboarding. http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0041.jpg

The whole of the shed attached to the end http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0040.jpg

Long single-storey farm building attached to the farm cottages. Quite common. The side facing away from the road would have been part closed with weatherboards and part open; the open part supported by wooden pillars at intervals.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0025.jpg

Cheers!

Dunkelgrun
08-09-2006, 04:03 PM
Some pubs: They might not have been painted in such interesting colours 60 years ago. They are more likely IMO to have been in their natural materials or white. Note the pub signs; they either hang off the side of the building or are on a separate pole in front. The few that didn't have signs had the name on the front of the building.

Very old pub, probably built in Tudor times:

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0022.jpg

Another old one.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0023.jpg

This one has expanded (probably since the war) into the cottages next door.

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0031.jpg

Not it's wartime paint scheme!

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0045.jpg

One of my favourites!

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0062.jpg

Cheers!

Jutocsa
08-09-2006, 04:50 PM
Excellent stuff folks, cant thank you enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A question...some of the links or photos showed nice terraced-building roads, houses painted red, blue, green, etc, some very...umm weird colors (ok, at least to a Hungarian's eye http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )
Was it common back in ww2 or its mostly recent and I should use only white, natural brick and yellow ? Just because you Dunkelgrün said something similar about the pub photos youve posted

Dunkelgrun
08-10-2006, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Jutocsa:
Excellent stuff folks, cant thank you enough http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

A question...some of the links or photos showed nice terraced-building roads, houses painted red, blue, green, etc, some very...umm weird colors (ok, at least to a Hungarian's eye http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif )
Was it common back in ww2 or its mostly recent and I should use only white, natural brick and yellow ? Just because you Dunkelgrün said something similar about the pub photos youve posted



Stick to the natural colours, especially with terraced amd semi-detached houses. The multi-coloured look is a new phenomenon. White is good for weatherboards, brick is red or yellow.
Roofs are either red tile, grey slate or (less commonly) thatch.

Cheers!

thefruitbat
08-10-2006, 04:12 AM
nice pics Dunkelgrun, i particuly liked the nice selection of pubs!!

cheers for the drink the other day,

fruitbat

Nick_Toznost
08-10-2006, 05:03 AM
[QUOTE]

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0022.jpg


Very old pub, probably built in Tudor times:
[QUOTE]

I used to be a regular in The Red Lion in Wingham. It's ridiculously old, 1250 or thereabouts, though there may be nothing left of the original structure. It has a plaque somewhere saying that it's 13th century.

Dunkelgrun
08-10-2006, 07:10 AM
Originally posted by Nick_Toznost:
[QUOTE]

http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0022.jpg


Very old pub, probably built in Tudor times
[QUOTE]

I used to be a regular in The Red Lion in Wingham. It's ridiculously old, 1250 or thereabouts, though there may be nothing left of the original structure. It has a plaque somewhere saying that it's 13th century.

The Red Lion is still good inside; not mucked about too much. It was a bit dead at lunchtime the day before last though; the food menu isn't too inspiring unless you are rich.



Here are some more shots. All apart from the last two are from Wingham, the same village that the Red Lion, Dog, and Anchor pubs are in.

This is an old village shop; or looking at the bracket outside was possibly another pub once. All villages used to have at least one shop, that was often the Post Office as well.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0020.jpg

Small rural bank; I can't ever look at this without visualising Captain Mainwaring being inside!
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0021.jpg

Typical half-timbered village house. Not hugely common in the south-east, probably about 5-10% (?) of all old rural houses.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0024.jpg

Typical row of village houses; all different sizes.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0026.jpg

Very small cottage; there were plenty of these about.http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0028.jpg


Very substantial pair of brick cottages.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0029.jpg

Small building with a 'Dutch' gable end. Quite a lot of these in Kent due to the influence of Flemish weavers who setlled here in the 1400s or thereabouts.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0030.jpg

More mismatched buildings.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0032.jpg

Large thatched cottages. Note the difference in size between them and next door!
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0033.jpg

Nice old cottages; once again with 'Dutch' gables.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0054.jpg

House of yellow brick. Yellow brick is fairly common, more so in towns and cities, but red brick is the major building material in the south-east.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0071.jpg


Cheers!

trumper
08-10-2006, 10:00 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif What worries me is that anyone not familiar with the UK will think looking at these photos that everyone lived in posh houses.
Unfortunately the masses did'nt ,they lived in much more cramped terrace type houses.
Maybe a few more poorer type houses need to be depicted. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Dunkelgrun
08-10-2006, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by trumper:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif What worries me is that anyone not familiar with the UK will think looking at these photos that everyone lived in posh houses.
Unfortunately the masses did'nt ,they lived in much more cramped terrace type houses.
Maybe a few more poorer type houses need to be depicted. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


The request was for rural buildings Gary.

Cheers!

Foo.bar
08-10-2006, 11:43 AM
Viktor, did you receive my e-mail?

Jutocsa
08-10-2006, 11:57 AM
No mate, I havent. Where have you sent it to ? Long time no see btw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Foo.bar
08-10-2006, 03:08 PM
To the address displayed on your website. Nice picture of you btw http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I will send again tomorrow. RAR or rather ZIP?

Jutocsa
08-10-2006, 03:14 PM
Hehhe...its an old one, cut my hair two years ago http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Send it to viktorszalai@yahoo.com just to be sure, the other has problems receiving mails sometimes. The format is up to you.

Foo.bar
08-10-2006, 03:32 PM
OK, mail is underway http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

major_setback
08-10-2006, 03:51 PM
More reference material:


Postboxes (country):

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photos/06/62/066288_62ef222f.jpg


http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/England/post%20box.jpg

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Exmouth%202.jpg

http://www.mjausson.com/2000/img/09Sep00/mailbox.jpg


Postboxes - town/country. (Don€t use ones with €ER€ on them, they are made under the reign of Queen Elizabeth).

http://www.3264.bm/images/PostBox-DSC03974_lg.jpg


http://www.bassetlaw.gov.uk/postbox.jpg


http://www.carmarthenshire.gov.uk/uploadedfiles/MediaLi...9---41---Postbox.jpg (http://www.carmarthenshire.gov.uk/uploadedfiles/MediaLibrary/6399---41---Postbox.jpg)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/PB1_viii_%40Warwick.jpg


http://www.maltaconference.com/filebank/imagebank/Letterbox.jpg

http://www.thomasscott.net/stickers/photos/postbox.jpg

http://www.mission.net/england/birmingham/images/postbox-phone.gif

http://img.search.com/c/c8/300px-PostboxManchesterSurvi...pyrightKaihsuTai.jpg (http://img.search.com/c/c8/300px-PostboxManchesterSurvivedIRA1996Bomb20051020_Copyr ightKaihsuTai.jpg)

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/001ewm/lg/mancc_corpst_postbox2124.jpg

Victorian style postbox:

http://www.edu.dudley.gov.uk/teachandlearnresources/dud...bcmuseum/postbox.jpg (http://www.edu.dudley.gov.uk/teachandlearnresources/dudleycd/bcmuseum/postbox.jpg)



Cottages:

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/...arrant_Hampshire.jpg (http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Hurstbourne_Tarrant_Hampshire.jpg)

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/...n_Worcestershire.jpg (http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Little_Comberton_Worcestershire.jpg)

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/Eastnor_Herefordshire.jpg

http://www.earth-photography.com/photos/Countries/Engla...ingham_Windmill2.jpg (http://www.earth-photography.com/photos/Countries/England/England_Nottingham_Windmill2.jpg)


Windmills:

Link €" Kent windmills:

http://www.kentwindmills.homestead.com/Windmill_Gallery.html

http://www.sustrans.org.uk/webimages/county/kent/RCR11%...20-%20resized_DY.jpg (http://www.sustrans.org.uk/webimages/county/kent/RCR11%20Woodchurch%20Wind%20Mill%20-%20resized_DY.jpg)


http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/windmill.jpg

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/9811..._suffolk_england.jpg (http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/981108/2/istockphoto_981108_old_windmill_in_suffolk_england .jpg)


http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/...Moorcott_Rutland.jpg (http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Tower_Mill_Moorcott_Rutland.jpg)

http://www.kentwindmills.homestead.com/files/Mill_Photos/Woodchurch.jpg


Watermills:

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/...mill_Oxfordshire.jpg (http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Mapledurham_Watermill_Oxfordshire.jpg)

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/...er_Newton_Dorset.jpg (http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Mill_on_the_Stour_Strurm_Minster_Newton_Dorset.jpg )

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:9PIyz66ChM3vcM:ht...csmallc/0/8723_1.jpg (http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:9PIyz66ChM3vcM:http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/picsmallc/0/8723_1.jpg)


Train station (country)

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/...0(Old%20station).jpg (http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Arley%20(Old%20station).jpg)

Bridges:

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Bridge%20Canal.jpg

Oast houses, Kent:

http://www.actioninengland.gb.com/EnglandPictureFolder/Oat_Houses_Kent.jpg

Dunkelgrun
08-10-2006, 04:00 PM
Major Setback's last link provides an excellent pic of oast houses. Some are square, some have slate roofs, but the ones in the shot would be how I'd like to see them in the game.
Note that they don't have windows in the round bit; if you see a modern picture many of them will have because they've been converted to houses. The white cowls on top should all face the same way as they swing with the wind.

Cheers!

Dunkelgrun
08-10-2006, 04:23 PM
Last ones from me: churches.

If we ignore the small non-conformist chapels which, although common, have no standardised appearance, then you should have three basic types of rural church:

Church with spire.
Church with tower.
Church without spire or tower.

Now, luckily for Oleg and the mapping team, these are all positioned accurately on Ordnance Survey maps, which I believe that Oleg received a full set of when BoB was announced.

Points to bear in mind about English parish churches:

1. They are all aligned East-West.
2. If they have a tower or spire it will be on the western end of the building. There are a few with central towers, and the church at Brookland has the spire separate from the rest of building, but generally this holds true.
3. They are enclosed by, usually, a wall that delineates the churchyard. This can be any shape but is often irregular. Often there is a 'lych gate' covering the entrance gateway.
4. The larger churches may be cruciform in shape, but generally most of them are oblong.
5. There is usually a large window in the eastern end of the church.
6. The entrance porch is usually but not always on the south side; if there is one at all.
7. Most church towers, and some of the walls, have castellations. The threat of attack was well-catered for.

I think that you could probably make one basic model for those with spire or tower; simply add the spire to the tower model.

Basic church with no tower or spire. Note the bell on the west end.
East end:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0057.jpg

North side:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0056.jpg

West end:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0060.jpg

South side:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0058.jpg

The building material of the walls is flint with stone used for the windows and cornices; not many churches are brick-built, although they do have some bricks in them. Once you leave the chalk country flint isn't used, but more likely stone. However, grey walls will do for these too.

Tower and spire:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0036.jpg

Tower and spire from south:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0034.jpg

Different church; same thing:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0066.jpg

Details of castellation:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0068.jpg

Details of wall and roof:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0051.jpg

Window in east wall:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0049.jpg

Southwest corner including porch:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0037.jpg

Porch entrance:
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0053.jpg

Lych gate. These are big enough to allow the pallbearers with the coffin to shelter from the rain until called into the church.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/igmusapa//Dscf0064.jpg

Cheers!

Jutocsa
08-11-2006, 04:31 AM
Excellent stuff, thanks for everyone ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have a question...do any of you know by any chance the exact dimensions of an 1916 General Service Shed ? You know, that Belfast truss roof wooden hangar thing.

KG26_Alpha
08-11-2006, 05:20 AM
The Belfast truss was used in hangar construction thus there wasnt a hard and fast rule to thier dimensions.

This may help.



http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bryan.burtonbj/barton%20hangar%202.htm

Jutocsa
08-11-2006, 05:57 AM
Yep, I also found that site, but the reference photo I got from 1C shows the hangar a bit narrower than this. But if you say there wasnt any strict rule, I guess I just shrink it a little.

KG26_Alpha
08-11-2006, 09:18 AM
Just another thought re rural buildings, whats the situation on wind/watermills and oast houses ?

http://www.windmillworld.com/uk/kent.htm

http://www.hoppingdowninkent.org.uk/oasthouse.php

major_setback
08-12-2006, 05:49 AM
More pictures.
I included some paintings of rural scenes etc.; they sometimes give the best idea of how buildings fit into a setting.


Town/city police stations:

London Police stations:

http://www.met.police.uk/wandsworth/images/wa_old_photo.jpg

Penge, London 1905:

http://www.ideal-homes.org.uk/images/bromley/penge/poli...tation-00501-640.jpg (http://www.ideal-homes.org.uk/images/bromley/penge/police-station-00501-640.jpg)

A Stoke Police Station:

http://www.thepotteries.org/streets/longton/sutherland_rd/old_police.jpg

(Detail of the above station, the entrance has been preserved):

http://www.thepotteries.org/streets/longton/sutherland_rd/police_entrance.jpg

More detail:

http://www.thepotteries.org/streets/longton/sutherland_rd/police_date.jpg

http://www.opps4blind.co.uk/graphics/pics/police_station.jpg

A Shropshire Police Station:

http://www.sportgymnasium-erfurt.de/coubertin/bilder/page9_6.jpg

Yorkshire Police Station:

http://www.ilkcam.com/2004/040321/04032101.jpg

Other Police Stations:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/john_d_holley_jou...0Nelson/Nelson18.jpg (http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/john_d_holley_journal_photos_2006/February/18-2-06%20Nelson/Nelson18.jpg)

Police lamp for outside a police station:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/images/2004/12/04/...ion_lamp_470x405.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cumbria/content/images/2004/12/04/barrow_new_station_lamp_470x405.jpg)


http://www.met.police.uk/merton/policelamp.jpg



Pub signs:

http://www.thepotteries.org/inns/hanley/carmount.jpg

http://norman.walsh.name/2003/10/13/pubsigns

http://norman.walsh.name/2004/03/11/pubsigns


Cottages:

http://www.jigsaw-puzzle-club.co.uk/shop_images/15292_cottage_jigsaw.jpg

http://www.jigsaw-puzzle-club.co.uk/shop_images/15636_T..._Cottages_jigsaw.jpg (http://www.jigsaw-puzzle-club.co.uk/shop_images/15636_Thatched_Cottages_jigsaw.jpg)

http://www.jigsaw-puzzle-club.co.uk/shop_images/15287_cottages_jigsaw.jpg

Canal Pub:

http://www.jigsaw-puzzle-club.co.uk/shop_images/14452_pub_jigsaw.jpg


Farms:

http://www.darwincountry.org/assets/userfiles/large/sy1176.jpg

http://www.jigsawgallery.com/prodpics/G812.jpg

Bridge:

http://www.shropshirestar.com/storage/editorial/85/sd32...wednesday_novem.jpeg (http://www.shropshirestar.com/storage/editorial/85/sd324938_p9_wednesday_novem.jpeg)

Water mills:

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Wickhambrea...ickhambreauxMill.jpg (http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Wickhambreaux/WickhambreauxImages/WickhambreauxMill.jpg)

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Sussex/Bosham/Bo...mages/BoshamMill.jpg (http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Sussex/Bosham/BoshamImages/BoshamMill.jpg)



http://www.discoverysafaris.com/images/PilesMill2hr.jpg


Windmills:

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Cranbrook/C...anbrookUnionMill.jpg (http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Cranbrook/CranbrookImages/CranbrookUnionMill.jpg)

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/HighHalden/...ghHaldenWindmill.jpg (http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/HighHalden/HighHaldenImages/HighHaldenWindmill.jpg)

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Sandhurst/Images/SandhurstMill.jpg



Small country train stations:

http://i.pbase.com/u13/stella_lin36/large/3505096.IMG_0306.jpg


http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/content/image...op_up_05_highley.jpg (http://www.bbc.co.uk/herefordandworcester/content/images/2005/07/06/pop_up_05_highley.jpg)

http://i.pbase.com/u13/stella_lin36/large/3504903.IMG_0292.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/u13/stella_lin36/large/3505028.IMG_0298.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/u13/stella_lin36/large/3504417.IMG_0284.jpg

http://i.pbase.com/u13/stella_lin36/large/3505566.IMG_0322.jpg

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Ashurst/Ash...s/AshurstStation.jpg (http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Kent/Ashurst/AshurstImages/AshurstStation.jpg)


http://www.croftway.freeserve.co.uk/Oakworth_Station.jpg

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/Corwen_Station_WEB.jpg

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/Untitled-5_derwen_stn_copy.jpg

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/S4300012_STATION_WINTER_WEB.jpg


Station front:

http://www.croftway.freeserve.co.uk/KWVR%2030%20Aug%2004%20008.jpg



Train station with signal box (on left):

http://www.accessagift.com/images/G793-IMMINENT%20DEPARTURE%20A5.jpg

Link €" small train stations:

http://www.svt.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3.html

Level crossings (train/road crossing):

http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Sussex/Isfield/I...eldLevelCrossing.jpg (http://www.roughwood.net/PostcardAlbum/Sussex/Isfield/IsfieldImages/IsfieldLevelCrossing.jpg)


http://www.shropshirestar.com/storage/editorial/85/sd30...tuesday__gone_t.jpeg (http://www.shropshirestar.com/storage/editorial/85/sd304216_p9_tuesday__gone_t.jpeg)

http://www.croftway.freeserve.co.uk/KWVR_Oakworth_16_April_01_3.jpg

http://www.croftway.freeserve.co.uk/No_85_at_Oakworth_Level_Crossing.jpg

http://www.railart.co.uk/gallery/images/nixon3.jpg

http://www.llanegwad-carmarthen.co.uk/Dryslwyn-Level-Crossing-gat.jpg

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/Untitled-1_LEVEL_CROSSING_copy.jpg

http://www.studioarts.co.uk/images/tdprints/thelevelcrossing.jpg


Signal box, several views:

http://www.grantham.karoo.net/andrew/pictures/rail/gb-oakham-front.jpg

http://www.grantham.karoo.net/andrew/pictures/rail/gb-oakham-right.jpg

http://www.grantham.karoo.net/andrew/pictures/rail/gb-oakham-back.jpg

http://www.grantham.karoo.net/andrew/pictures/rail/gb-oakham-left.jpg

http://www.grantham.karoo.net/andrew/pictures/random/dapolsignalbox.jpg


Engine shed:

http://www.croftway.freeserve.co.uk/KWVR%2012%20April%2004%20005.jpg



Petrol Stations/garages:

http://www.jigsawsrus.co.uk/uploads/images_products_large/251.jpg

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.confluence.or...Gd7Y3nP7ymGVRhXmLrc= (http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.confluence.org/uk/en/n52w003v2/pic3.jpg&sig=__XYZYIucqGd7Y3nP7ymGVRhXmLrc=)

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/08-henly.jpg

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/00348-barrow%27s%20garage_L.jpg

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/ptg_2.JPG

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/esso_garage_copy.jpg


Houses:

http://www.shropshirestar.com/storage/editorial/85/SD1384510@fp1.jpg


Inter-war semi detached houses:

http://www.habsboys.org.uk/departments/geography/Watford/Amor-19.JPG

School:

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/16-yew%7E1.jpg

Shops:

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/00179-l708-grocers%20shop.jpg

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/91-l83%20coxell%...20shop%20ch%20rd.jpg (http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/91-l83%20coxell%27s%20shop%20ch%20rd.jpg)

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/00341-james%20cycle%20shop-3_L.jpg

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/00343-james%20cycle%20shop%20-1_L.jpg

Small town scene:

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/Eastgate_above_WEB.jpg

http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/Untitled-2.psd_EASTGATE_N...ASTGATE_NEW_copy.jpg (http://www.dart36.fsnet.co.uk/Untitled-2.psd_EASTGATE_NEW.psd_EASTGATE_NEW_copy.jpg)



Bank:

http://www.northendenpast.co.uk/photos/00149-l-3990-district%20bank.jpg

Busses (good link), showing ads on old busses:

http://freespace.virgin.net/ian.smith/buses/

In case you need this, aircraft factories:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Bla...actoryDunbarton1.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/BlackburnsAircraftFactoryDunbarton1.jpg)


Aircraft factory damage:

http://multitext.ucc.ie/images/1199.jpg?tbnl-session=19...ADFDB4D6D5FB86900550 (http://multitext.ucc.ie/images/1199.jpg?tbnl-session=1961%3A9BF1542FAC17ADFDB4D6D5FB86900550)


Churches:

Four views of a church:

http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/...odiamStGiles2005.JPG (http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/BodiamImages/BodiamStGiles2005.JPG)

http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/...lesSouthEast2005.JPG (http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/BodiamImages/BodiamStGilesSouthEast2005.JPG)

http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/...StGilesSouth2005.JPG (http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/BodiamImages/BodiamStGilesSouth2005.JPG)

http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/...mStGilesGate2005.JPG (http://www.roughwood.net/ChurchAlbum/EastSussex/Bodiam/BodiamImages/BodiamStGilesGate2005.JPG)



Model village church (Airfix) and the original church it was based on:

http://www.tri-ang.co.uk/Airfix/Church.htm

http://www.elcombe.net/bonchurc.htm

http://www.bonchurch.info/oldch.htm

major_setback
08-13-2006, 06:27 PM
Jutocsa:


I€ve had some time on my hands so thought I would help you find some more pictures. I hope that these will be of use to you.


This a good link for pictures of England:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/England/tours



Water towers:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Hanbury_1109457768.jpg

http://www.glemsford.org.uk/05oldwatertower2.jpg



Fire stations:

http://www.almahouse.co.uk/album-of-windsor/images/pict0683.jpg


http://www.southlakes-uk.co.uk/userreq/OldFireStationOct2004.jpg

http://www.alresford.org/images/old_fire_600.jpg

http://hex.oucs.ox.ac.uk/~rejs/photos/A40/medium/112canon/img_1280.jpg (http://hex.oucs.ox.ac.uk/%7Erejs/photos/A40/medium/112canon/img_1280.jpg)


Breweries:

http://www.freewebs.com/beaufortvision/brewery%20restored%20cr%20door%20sm.JPG

3 pictures of Young€s Brewery, London:

http://static.flickr.com/66/203872738_2168566188.jpg?v=0

http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/nr/wandsworth/asp/planning...dbuildings/2-007.jpg (http://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/nr/wandsworth/asp/planning/listedbuildings/2-007.jpg)

http://homepage3.nifty.com/NLbeer/B_TOURISM/B_museumUKpict/Youngs1.JPG

Small brewery:

http://www.colc.co.uk/cambridge/gwydir/brewery.jpg

3 views of Harvey€s brewery in Sussex:

http://www.harveys.org.uk/images/poster2.jpg

http://www.harveys.org.uk/images/brewery3sml.jpg

http://www.harveys.org.uk/images/brewery1sml.jpg

4 pictures of Mortlake Brewery on the Thames:

http://static.flickr.com/97/208012011_5236b228ae.jpg?v=0

http://static.flickr.com/40/110927004_2297fa31d1_m.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/38/117701133_729e1c8bf1_m.jpg

http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T01_Imag/Jan01_117.jpg

Farms:

Several views and plans of a farm building:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bryan.burtonbj/S_elev_from_SW_photo.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bryan.burtonbj/coppice%20f...d%20north%20elev.JPG (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bryan.burtonbj/coppice%20farm%20barn%20east%20and%20north%20elev. JPG)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bryan.burtonbj/barn%20E%20elev.JPG

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bryan.burtonbj/Coppice%20farm%20barn%20PLAN.JPG

More farm pictures:

http://www.archenfield.com/Projectimages/TC%20B19.jpg

http://www.southwell-online.co.uk/villages/halloughton/PICT1254.JPG

http://www.southwell-online.co.uk/villages/halloughton/PICT1261.JPG

http://www.wimpole.org/pic/farm/barn.jpg

http://www.southwell-online.co.uk/villages/halloughton/PICT1255.JPG

http://www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/ratcliffe/Images/Atherstone%20Rd__.jpg

Two views:

http://www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/ratcliffe/Images/Whitehouse%20Fm.jpg

http://www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/ratcliffe/Images/Whitehouse%20Fm%202.jpg

http://www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/ratcliffe/Images/Elms%202.jpg

http://www.thepotteries.org/walks/penkhull/penk_farm.jpg

http://www.javajane.co.uk/buildings/farm_building.jpg

http://www.archenfield.com/Projectimages/TC%20barn%208.jpg

http://www.archenfield.com/Projectimages/Turnastone%20Court%20b9b.JPG


Bridge:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/natural/Cambridge_1119854573.jpg

Railway footbridge:

http://www.north-london-models.com/dapolimg/c004.jpg


London pubs:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/London_1133316508.jpg

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/London_1134074607.jpg

London Tudor pub:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/London_1138210575.jpg

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Mayfair_1128202215.jpg

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/London_1133316163.jpg


Schools:

http://www.qlhs.org.uk/oracle/arthur-masters/village-school.jpg

http://www.merriottfamiliesgenealogy.net/images/Village%20School.JPG

http://www.kented.org.uk/ngfl/qca/dover-road/images/school.jpg

http://www.aberdareonline.co.uk/content/public/history/...0County%20School.jpg (http://www.aberdareonline.co.uk/content/public/history/pictures_from_the_past/images/aberdare/Girls%20County%20School.jpg)


Churches:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Avebury_1146296379.jpg


Kent, old pictures:

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/broadstairs1.jpg

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/deal1.jpg

Piers:

Dover pier:

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/dover1.jpg

Folkestone pier:

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/folkestone1.jpg


http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/hernebay1.jpg

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/hernebay2.jpg

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/hernebay3.jpg

http://www.sanddancer.co.uk/old_photographs_of_kent/hernebay4.jpg


Cinemas (town):

London Cinema 1942:

http://www.cinema-theatre.org.uk/images/FP_Dominion_Granada_1.jpg

http://www.cinema-theatre.org.uk/images/FP_Dominion_Granada_2.jpg


http://pages.britishlibrary.net/tooting/images/film_granada.jpg

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/ic7/40.jpg

http://www.mawgrim.sathosting.net/cavalcade/southsea.jpg

http://www.mawgrim.sathosting.net/cavalcade/stalbansg.jpg

http://www.mawgrim.sathosting.net/cavalcade/plymoutho.jpg


Four views of a cinema (art deco1930€s):

http://www.74simon.co.uk/granada_hove/northeastsmall.jpg

http://www.74simon.co.uk/granada_hove/frontsmall.jpg

http://www.74simon.co.uk/granada_hove/stagewallsmall.jpg

http://www.74simon.co.uk/granada_hove/northwestnearsmall.jpg

Brighton cinema:

http://www.74simon.co.uk/granada_hove/granada30sweb.jpg


Shop ads:

http://www.aberdareonline.co.uk/content/public/history/...re/Town%20Centre.jpg (http://www.aberdareonline.co.uk/content/public/history/pictures_from_the_past/images/aberdare/Town%20Centre.jpg)


Park:

http://www.aberdareonline.co.uk/content/public/history/...rdare/The%20Lake.jpg (http://www.aberdareonline.co.uk/content/public/history/pictures_from_the_past/images/aberdare/The%20Lake.jpg)

Park bandstand:

http://www.southlakes-uk.co.uk/userreq2/parkbandstandold1.jpg



Town Halls:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Worthing_1154849208.jpg

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Eastbourne_1152889166.jpg

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Todmorden_1152852999.jpg

Town Hall Dover:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Dover_1123091168.jpg



Tudor window (?):

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Rye_10675236445.jpg



Cottages:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Herefordshire_1146131566.jpg

Shop/cottage:

http://www.picturesofengland.com/pictures/500/Isle_of_Wight_1129061343.jpg

major_setback
08-13-2006, 07:11 PM
Details from the Brighton area:

Clock tower:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic01/00932.jpg

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01110.jpg



Tea van:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic01/00906.jpg

Mobile canteens:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01073.jpg

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01074.jpg

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01075.jpg



Air raid siren:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01079.jpg

Pier during wartime:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic01/00156.jpg

Sea defences:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic01/00922.jpg

Road block:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01072.jpg

Sea front detail Brighton:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01081.jpg

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01103.jpg

1940€s house detail:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01093.jpg


Royal Pavillion brighton, detail:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01076.jpg

Ambulance:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01066.jpg

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01067.jpg

Buildings:

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic02/01159.jpg

http://www.citylibraries.info/pictures/Photos/Pic01/00869.jpg

Jutocsa
08-15-2006, 01:07 AM
Whoaa..thats some nice load of pictures !

Im going to Turkey in a couple days for two weeks, and I guess the topic will disappear by the time I come back, plus by now it should be enough for me, so Id like to thank you all again for the very useful help you gave me. Hopefully you will meet most of these buildings in the game http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

major_setback
08-15-2006, 03:09 AM
One last lot then..I hope you get to see these:



War memorials:

http://www.smilodon.plus.com/WarMems/pictures/tewkesbury.jpg

3 views of one memorial:

http://www.cottinghamhistory.co.uk/Photos-old/War%20mem-B&W.jpg


http://www.cottinghamhistory.co.uk/Photos-old/War%20Memorial.jpg

http://www.cottinghamhistory.co.uk/Photos-new/War%20memorial%20plinth2.jpg

Air raid wardens post:

http://caber.open.ac.uk/schools/stanway/images/ARP%20Post.jpg


Clock towers:

http://www.clcshe.eclipse.co.uk/images/townclock2.jpg

Brighton€s clock tower:

http://image56.webshots.com/56/3/86/25/398038625ufaZKA_ph.jpg

Weymouth clock tower:

http://image63.webshots.com/63/1/88/84/389918884miRHQV_ph.jpg


http://image24.webshots.com/25/4/20/77/37042077wVVqhT_ph.jpg

http://image14.webshots.com/15/1/87/1/161318701PLkQvZ_ph.jpg


Post office:

http://image51.webshots.com/51/1/70/85/483117085JdrJqk_ph.jpg

Old brewery:

http://image44.webshots.com/45/6/82/12/2565682120053953131ixpvbE_ph.jpg

http://image22.webshots.com/23/6/13/76/201261376UFArNZ_ph.jpg

Sound locators:

http://www.455th.ukpc.net/tomfeise/455th/atsaaa.jpg

Petrol pumps:

http://www.455th.ukpc.net/tomfeise/455th/dorset.jpg

Posters:

http://www.ers.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/images/women_war.jpg

http://www.ers.north-ayrshire.gov.uk/images/war2.jpg

http://atschool.eduweb.co.uk/nettsch/time/wlanda.gif

http://caber.open.ac.uk/schools/stanway/images/ind_poster2.jpg

WOLFMondo
08-15-2006, 03:32 AM
If you want specific images of any of those Brighton buildings, drop me a PM. Many are still exactly the same, the council listed most of Brighton as historical. Even my house is a listed building.

Foo.bar
08-17-2006, 02:16 AM
Some time ago MG posted this image of an english row house.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4586/house15qx.th.jpg (http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4586/house15qx.jpg)

Now, what really would be interesting to me is the following:

What could be a senseful story height and how tall are english house doors usually? When I was in england recently, I recognized smaller doors (max 2.00 meters high) and windows as we have in germany (2.10 to 2.30 and over 1.00 meter wide).
So what dou you think are the dimensions of one section af that row houses (rooftop height, width and length overall)?

trumper
08-17-2006, 03:00 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gifBlimey,in England hieghts can vary enormously on the type and age of building.
I have been in houses where you literally are hunched up when trying to get in or moving around to others where room is plentiful.
The answer really depends on age of the building,location and purpose of building.
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.24h...UShttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.giffficial%26sa%3DG (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/content/images/2005_3075.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART29337.html&h=167&w=250&sz=23&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=Q_VhX1lp3W-lrM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1940%2Bterraced%2Bhouses%26svnum%3D10 %26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-UShttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.giffficial%26sa%3DG)

Heres a different website i stumbled on but quite interesting, http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/genealogy/Remini...ce/reminiscences.htm (http://www.localhistory.scit.wlv.ac.uk/genealogy/Reminiscence/reminiscences.htm)

Foo.bar
08-17-2006, 04:04 AM
Thank you trumper. I ment this special building displayed on the image. I think it is out of the early 30's?

trumper
08-17-2006, 09:44 AM
After a quick discussion with a much admired person on the modelling front ,we think possibly 1800's,but i would be flexible on that.

major_setback
08-17-2006, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by Foo.bar:
Some time ago MG posted this image of an english row house.

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/4586/house15qx.jpg

Now, what really would be interesting to me is the following:

What could be a senseful story height and how tall are english house doors usually? When I was in england recently, I recognized smaller doors (max 2.00 meters high) and windows as we have in germany (2.10 to 2.30 and over 1.00 meter wide).
So what dou you think are the dimensions of one section af that row houses (rooftop height, width and length overall)?


Definately a lot lot earlier than the 1930's.

major_setback
08-17-2006, 11:17 AM
Your picture is not unlike these, though a bit simpler:



This first one has plans at the bottom of the page, so you should be able to work out the size of the door and windows:

http://www.woosterstock.co.uk/Detail.php?propID=2349



http://www.time.com/time/europe/tga/article/0,13005,901051226-1142191,00.html

http://www.london-hotels-england.net/blooms-town-house/hotel.htm

http://london.nethotels.com/images/hotels/the_academy~_...house_front_view.jpg (http://london.nethotels.com/images/hotels/the_academy%7E_the_bloomsbury_town_house_front_vie w.jpg)



Good luck with any modelling you might be doing!!! Let me know if you need info €" I€m not in England now, but I€m happy to spend time finding pictures and info for you on the web.

major_setback
08-17-2006, 11:31 AM
These are more like the picture you posted:

http://www.homeexchange.com/show.php?id=15801&nav=Previous+Page


http://www.homeexchange.com/pictures/15801.jpg

major_setback
08-17-2006, 11:42 AM
This (site shows plans, dimensions) might be closer:

http://www.woosterstock.co.uk/Detail.php?propID=2917


http://www.woosterstock.co.uk/images/property/2917_670486221445f2674a5f1e.jpg

The site has lots of other house plans if you are interested:

http://www.woosterstock.co.uk/Property.php

Foo.bar
08-20-2006, 05:35 AM
Hey major_setback http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif thanks for that informations... wasn't too hard to find me, eh?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

KG26_Alpha
08-28-2006, 10:05 AM
This would be a nice touch if it could be included.

http://www.ajg41.clara.co.uk/mirrors/

Foo.bar
08-28-2006, 11:13 AM
should be done easily. Exact measurings anywhere to be found?

KG26_Alpha
08-28-2006, 02:01 PM
Also

http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/COMMS/ear/ear.htm

http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/nwh_gfx_en/ART17649.html

Model of approx 30ft dish.

http://www.kirchersociety.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/soundmirrors2.jpg

Most of them have the dimensions in their description, ie: 30'= 30 feet and so on, one or two are guessable from surroundings, the cliff top dish here is approx 10ft in diameter guessing from its surroundings.

http://www.ajg41.plus.com/images/mirror/abbot02.jpg


These were not dotted alll over the South of England but just in a few key areas, and then just a few of them were made and used.

major_setback
08-30-2006, 07:19 PM
More pub signs (from the West Midlands though, though they would no doubt work anywhere). Lots of them here:

http://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/pubsigns/a.htm


Look under 'R' for The Rd Lion, a traditional and very common pub name.

KG26_Alpha
09-03-2006, 10:17 AM
Hever Castle, heres a panoramic of the castle and west side grounds, poorly stiched together from 3 pics by me.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/alpha1/Heverpanoramincnet.jpg

Jutocsa
09-04-2006, 03:48 AM
Back from Turkey...good to see that the thread is still active http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Foo.bar, mate, I guess I still havent answered you, am I right ?

Foo.bar
09-04-2006, 04:16 AM
Hi Viktor, good to have you back. Don't mind about missing answer. Just drop me a PM - I have some questions about House of Parliaments.

jolulure
09-04-2006, 10:23 AM
Glastonbury Tor!!!

http://www.balnet.co.uk/images/venues/glastonbury.jpg

Typical house

http://z.about.com/d/architecture/1/0/J/G/cotswold-jw.jpg

"Millfield House" at my school, in Somerset. Built in 1930. http://www.mpwc.co.uk/images/gallery/highres/millfield_house.jpg

JG5Jerry
09-06-2006, 04:38 PM
Somerset (south-west England) came under attack quite alot during the BoB - the town of Yeovil for example, because the Westlands aircraft factory was based there. There were also various secondary factories in nearby towns and villages. The railway stockyard in the village where I grew up was strafed by a lone Bf110 - I know this because my grandmother saw it happen! She was also in Yeovil when it was bombed, and was involved in Spitfire construction later in the war. More details about the raids against Westlands can be found in Dilip Sarkar's book 'Angriff Westland'.

major_setback
09-14-2006, 10:37 AM
This site was posted by Woofiedog in another thread.

Airfield control towers of Britain (note the alphabetical listing):


http://www.controltowers.co.uk/listing.htm



http://www.controltowers.co.uk/F/images/Framlingham.jpg

http://www.controltowers.co.uk/H-K/images/Horham.jpg

http://www.controltowers.co.uk/L/images/little_walden_44.jpg

Ooops! They don't seem to save tooo well, only the top half of the pictures.