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iL2fan
05-17-2008, 02:00 PM
What is it like getting shot down in this game? And is it possible to get stuck while bailing out. AND most videos on you-tube on il2 I saw no bullet tracers???Is the bullet tracer thing true???

Zeus-cat
05-17-2008, 02:23 PM
What is it like getting shot down in this game?

When you get shot dow nyou are either killed (screen goes black) or you lose control of the plane as you fall from the sky.

And is it possible to get stuck while bailing out.

Yes, you can get trapped in your plane. This happens if your plane is spinning violently because a wing was shot off.

AND most videos on you-tube on il2 I saw no bullet tracers???Is the bullet tracer thing true???

There are tracers in the game - lots of them!

iL2fan
05-17-2008, 02:29 PM
Thanks Zeus-cat! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif Really big help. Makes me wunna get 1 wing shot off in a b-17 trying to get out whille spinning furiusl 20,000 feet high trying to get out of my belt and open the top window to bail out http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifWoo that was a moutload.

VW-IceFire
05-17-2008, 02:41 PM
No bullet tracers? What videos were you watching? No really...I'd like to see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Every gun has a tracer. Some have small numbers in the belting while others have allot of tracers in the mix.

Getting shot down...well its often a moment of confusion and rarely is it anticipated. Often its a matter of being bounced from behind, suddenly tracers and smoke flash all around you, and then several different things happen.

You might (individually or in combination):

- have your pilot wounded (screen turns shades of red) or killed (screen goes black)
- loose a wing
- loose a tail
- loose control cables (no control over some or all surfaces)
- light on fire in the fuel tank
- light on fire in the engine
- get hit in the engine where it starts to speed out of control and grind itself into non-working pieces
- get hit in the engine where it stops dead

Probably some other unpleasant things that can happen to your plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bailing out is best done right away if you've lost a wing, or your on fire, etc. If you wait too long and you've lost a wing you might end up spinning out of control so much that your virtual self cannot bail out before its too late.

Also if you're flying in a historical early war Japanese scenario you might not even be able to bail out as early war parachutes were not often used (available but not used - there was a warrior code to consider amongst some other issues).

Gnomie
05-17-2008, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Also if you're flying in a historical early war Japanese scenario you might not even be able to bail out as early war parachutes were not often used (available but not used - there was a warrior code to consider amongst some other issues).
A warrior code not to deploy your chute when you were shot down..? That sounds pretty daft if you ask me..

EDIT: Oh, you were talking about the Japanese. Then I see. They always had this thing about honour and pride.

general_kalle
05-17-2008, 06:27 PM
no. they didnt bring Chutes in their planes.
if you bail theres a chance/risk that you might get captured...which the japanese didnt want to.

Phil_C
05-17-2008, 11:14 PM
Makes me wunna get 1 wing shot off in a b-17 trying to get out whille spinning furiusl 20,000 feet high trying to get out of my belt and open the top window to bail out

Technically you cant fly the b-17

AnaK774
05-17-2008, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by Phil_C:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Makes me wunna get 1 wing shot off in a b-17 trying to get out whille spinning furiusl 20,000 feet high trying to get out of my belt and open the top window to bail out

Technically you cant fly the b-17 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd replace technically with honestly... and external only on DF servers

badatit
05-18-2008, 12:21 AM
You can spot AAA tracer fire from miles away. As you get closer, you can see tracers from firing aircraft. You can usually tell friendly from enemy aircraft by the color of their tracer rounds. But not always.

American machine guns=orange(almost red)
German cannon=blue
British cannon=yellow
Russian cannon=green
AAA=white

Some planes sport mg's and cannon...but you get the idea.

Your at sixteen-thousand feet, climbing out from one of your forward bases towards the picket when you spot ground fire at 11:00. You had just finished studying your map, folded it up, and tucked it back under your left buttock. The AAA is deployed just northwest of a small village, south of the river in Bravo-six...Our side of the picket. Probally a JABO coming to pay your runway a visit. You know other allied pilots have also seen the AAA...and are by now, headed in that direction, trimmed for speed. You also know the JABO will have two or three escorts along. Most likely a couple of FW190's twenty seconds out...up in the sun...and closer still is a veteran ME109 driver, grinning. He knows the ground fire will bring targets.

Deja vu?...No, this time it will be different.

You feel an increase in your machines performance. A quick instrument scan tells you your climbling thru seventeen-thousand feet, heading north, at 225mph IAS.

At eighteen thousand feet you key up your mike..."Alright Buddy, let's get fast. Level out nineteen-thousand feet".

"Roger Lead...nineteen-thousand".

You apply some nose down trim, close your radiator, more nose down trim, ease back on the prop pitch, a bit more nose down trim while watching the altitude indicator settle on nineteen-thousand feet. Double-checking your slip as you reach 350mph IAS...
"Tac turn left...roll out two-seven-zero, Bud".

"Roger Lead...two-seven-zero".

You snap a look back at your 5:00 and just see your wingman disappear from your peripheral view as you make a crisp turn to the west.

Your head is on a swivel at first, then you concentrate at 2:00 low. Over the RT you hear the familiar "Your clear Lead." from your wingman, who is maintaining a combat spread formation at your 9:00, and watching your back.

Your squadron commander is two sectors north of the picket, over enemy territory. His two-ship element has been quiet...too quiet. Then you hear him come up on the freq.

"Red flight where yall at?!"

"Zippin through Charlie-seven, Skipper, button four...nineteen-thousand feet, hdg two-seven-zero...Whatcha got?"

"We're boggied up!...Multiples...Scattered up to fifteen-thousand....We're hdg South...Charlie-three ,button two...Need assist...at Charlie-five, over peninsula ten-thousand feet."

"Roger Boss, on our way!"

"Crow's out front, he's shot up and trailin smoke...I'm leakin fuel and draggin three.......Advise you dive in from two-two-five...out of the sun".

"Roger that Boss".

"Checkin right...three-zero, Bud...Droppin and kickin'r up to four-fifty".

"Roger Lead...were good".

"Checkin right...another thirty, Bud...four-seventy".

"I'm with ya Lead...were clear".

"Vis Bud! I got three...trailin two smokers 3:00 low...Droppin another fifteen-hundred...Let's tighten up".

"Roger Lead, I'm with ya...tally".

"Copy...coming around to zero-four-five on WEP".

"Copy...zero-four-five-WEP...Your clear Lead".

"Alright Chief...were comin in hot...take'm zero-nine-zero...nice and easy".

"Five-twenty-five here Bud...Easy son...Easy does it...Dont force her...Five-fifty....Just trim son....Nothin else".

"They gettin close Skipper....Slip right a bit"

"We are both offensive Bud...line up the number two guy...I'll take the leader...we'll come back and bracket tail end charlie".

"Yes Sir"!

And then it happened...

JG52Uther
05-18-2008, 03:05 AM
Originally posted by iL2fan:
What is it like getting shot down in this game? And is it possible to get stuck while bailing out. AND most videos on you-tube on il2 I saw no bullet tracers???Is the bullet tracer thing true???
You have been a member of the forum for 5 years,and your nick is 'il2Fan' and you don't know?
Do you even have the game?
Hilarious.

M_Gunz
05-18-2008, 10:13 AM
They "color-coded" AAA smoke since WWI but everything was black and white.
I've listened on vid to one USN veteran saying that they used colored smoke at some point
during the Kamikaze raids so the ships in a close packed fleet could tell their AA from
their neighbor's.
Hey maybe even to see theirs from all the smoke around it! I've seen the film when it was all
black smoke and after a while only the tracers told much. They were getting friendly fire too,
showed where a 5" shell fired at a very low plane had struck a gun tub on the Enterprise, IIRC.
That's 125mm (prolly a 120), equivalent a modern main tank gun but maybe longer barrel.
You really want the gunners to know where their shots wind up.

Lurch1962
05-19-2008, 03:45 PM
YouTube videos are of low resolution and quality, so tinier bits like tracer streaks can get "lost in the translation."

M_Gunz
05-19-2008, 05:40 PM
I've got much higher quality AVI's and MPG's than those Youtube shows. None of it is eye on the
scene quality and even that trying to judge where in the sky the shots and targets are against
empty sky, lack of referents and fast move is much harder than potting ground targets.

SeaFireLIV
05-19-2008, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by JG52Uther:

You have been a member of the forum for 5 years,and your nick is 'il2Fan' and you don't know?
Do you even have the game?
Hilarious.

Apparently not. This guy`s a mystery.

badatit
05-19-2008, 06:40 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38610606/m/869...?r=73310528#73310528 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38610606/m/86910876?r=73310528#73310528)