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arrowtalon
03-01-2007, 01:18 PM
There have been some posts about this--thought I'd jump on the bandwagon.

I have a 3GHz HT P4 CPU, 1.0 Gig Mem, ATI X600

I'm trying to get an idea for the best budget card (Price vs Performance) that can handle the increased water and effects rendering found in conf.ini

I've noticed NVidia cards seem to be more supported by UBI games...

I'd prefer to spend as little as possible. Any suggestions?

FritzC6
03-01-2007, 01:36 PM
geforce 8800 gts with 320 mb
XFX makes a factory clocked called " ddr extreme 3" wich comes @ 560:1700
and even that can be overclocked much higher + this card supports dx10 and shader 3.0

http://www.xfxforce.com/web/home.jspa--- see products

first benchmark scored 13600 3d05 marks stock settings
i can run sturmo at 1280x1024 with everything max http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
320mb is more then enough if you set your resolution not to high ( i got 22inchwide but 1600 x .... is a bit to much for this card at max)

i switched from ati x1800 series to this and i'm quite happy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i spend 365 euro but i've seen stores go as low as 289 euros but not in my country

don't buy the latest from ati, you'll get more performance for your money from nvidia right now ( the 8800 series offcourse )
defenitly go for a dx 10 card at this point

you say a budget card , that is one of nvidia best budget cards http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
don't buy older models , you'll regret it in the long run

cheers

badatit
03-01-2007, 09:49 PM
APG or PCI-E?
All depends on your budget.

AGP bang for your buck
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814143045
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130274
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814241041
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161070

PCI-E bang for your buck
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161060
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102061
and more

There are alot of great cards out there, at a reasonable price. The more you try to squeeze your dollar, the tougher it gets.
ie; less than 150 bucks is going to require more intensisve research.




Shop around to see what's in your price range.
Then do a comparison with these charts.
Top of the lists are slow inexpensive cards.
They get pricier as you go down the list, but not neccassarily faster...keep a close eye on the memory transfer rates.

ATI Chips Comparison Table (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/131)

nVidia Chips Comparison Table (http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/132)

I would recommend a DDR3 card, with a 256-bit memory interface. No less.

Heavy_Weather
03-02-2007, 09:12 AM
the X1900GT is nice if you have a pci express slot

arrowtalon
03-02-2007, 09:41 AM
Thanks for the responses.

I think I should probably specify "budget", as it appears you all have decidely deeper pockets than myself.

I tend to shoot for the cards in the $50-100 range. At this point, I'm not concerned about DirectX10 as I don't plan to go to Vista until I have to (seems like a graphic-laden resource hog to me), nor do I have the cash to buy games more than twice a year or so.

My interface is PCI-E x16.

I've also found it economically sound to buy cards one generation back from top notch. Right now, that would be cards that can't run the hot new games. In a year however, the top notch cards will be down to 50-80 bucks, and I may get one then. I'm perfectly happy playing games 2-3 years old.

arrowtalon
03-02-2007, 09:44 AM
I guess I should also say my "bucks" are in USD.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Biggles2111
03-02-2007, 10:09 AM
Arrowtalon,

I think you do right. The 8 series Nvidia are good cards but its early days yet and it ain't worth building a whole new system on a dream. Especially on a dream that the Computer Hardware manufacturers keep trying to sell us and in the end only turns out to be a pipe dream.
Nvidia must be a very rich company now. 400 quid for a graphics card is far too much money and to go SLI is 800 quid. Just mad on unproven technology and unproven software. Give it a year and the Nvidia 89 series will be out at less cost, more RAM and less power usage. Also Vista will be sorted then and we might even have some Direct X 10 games by then.

Oh by the way IL2 is OpneGL or did we all forget that.

badatit
03-03-2007, 08:13 PM
For under 100 bucks, your looking at a X1650pro or a 7600GS.

horseback
03-04-2007, 10:25 AM
If you can find one, I'd recommend a 7600/6600 GT model. They're supposed to be blazingly fast to make up for having only 128Mb VideoRAM.

It's my understanding that the new 6600GTs have slipped under the $100 US line, and that the 7600GTs aren't that much higher, if you know where to look. The 6600GTs are becoming quite rare though, so be careful not to get stuck with a plain vanilla 6600GS.

cheers

horseback

arrowtalon
03-11-2007, 10:27 AM
Thanks for the input guys.

While were on OpenGL, does anyone else get the cheees-grater texture in certain effect shadows. When I crash, or in the shadow my my exhaust I always see this odd mesh pattern. It's only when I'm running OpenGL. Changing other settings doesn affect it.

staticline1
03-11-2007, 10:57 AM
Arrowtalon, I have a 6800gs and it will run IL2/PF on perfect without a hitch. Its a good card, stable and will perform this sim very nice. Ebay has some nice prices but also try tigerdirect.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...o=2183362&CatId=1560 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2183362&CatId=1560)
Newegg has a nice one for $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130063

Before I upgraded my cpu I had an AMD 3500 and as long as I didn't bump up the AA/AF too high there was no fps hit. It should last you until you want to upgrade to something much better in the distant future.

rawheid_rex
03-11-2007, 01:28 PM
http://www.gpureview.com/