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grecobd
04-13-2007, 08:02 AM
The divulgation department of C1 its a best of all , in create suspence...hehehehhehe....or the more boring place to work...hahahahahha...

nearmiss
04-13-2007, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by grecobd:
The divulgation department of C1 its a best of all , in create suspence...hehehehhehe....or the more boring place to work...hahahahahha...

Here are some pics:

http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/?start=0

BadA1m
04-13-2007, 10:13 AM
Thanks for reminding us just how much info we have, and how oh so sweet it is.

grecobd
04-13-2007, 02:33 PM
This guys know to do "future buyers" still interst on progress

http://www.gennadich.com/

VW-IceFire
04-13-2007, 03:52 PM
I'm hoping that by September the updates will begin to be fast and furious. Perhaps starting with E3 and then progressing from there. Allot of work with Oleg's team was likely behind the scenes engine stuff.

Thats actually something that most of the people who complain have been asking for. Better damage models, more realistic damage models, more detailed everything, weather, better bullet physics, better ammo belting system, and so on and so forth. No doubt that allot of the last year where we haven't heard much of anything has been the work on stuff like that. Thats my hope anyways!

I'm sure the eye candy will arrive sooner or later.

Choctaw111
04-13-2007, 06:07 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again. Oleg and team will pleasantly surprise us all to say the least. We will be BLOWN AWAY with what we will see in BoB.

slappedsilly
04-14-2007, 07:08 AM
I have said this before and I will say it again. Oleg and team will pleasantly surprise us all to say the least. We will be BLOWN AWAY with what we will see in BoB.

Well of course, thats why we want to see it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CarpeNoctem43
06-14-2007, 01:33 PM
Considering the dearth of information [any new paragraphs have been rehashes of the previous] over the past 5 months, I think it's safe to start looking into other offerings.

Sad fact is, even the best thought out projects are susceptible to failure.

IL-2 still has life in it, great game - let's not pine anymore about what could have been.

-Raven

XyZspineZyX
06-14-2007, 02:42 PM
Um...you guys would never, ever make good detectives in a MILLION years

Summer is ALWAYS a slow entertainment software season

if you want to pick up clues about BoB's development, you can do it...but you aren't looking very hard at all

CarpeNoctem, it may intrest you to know that just last week I posted info on these very message boards about Oleg Maddox contacting a potential artist for menu and box art, for SoW:BoB

Please click this link:

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79018

This is <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">new</span> news from the 4th of June 2007, concerning BoB development. You feel that BoB is a failed development, but the truth is otherwise http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif . Please look a little harder before you decide what's what. If you go to page 5 on the link I just provided, you can read what Oleg Maddox had to say, concerning BoB

You may also want to read this thread, as well:

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&...4&page=1#Post2228804 (http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2228804&page=1#Post2228804)

It's not that hard to look for and find info on BoB development, even if admittedly it's not much info. But work is progressing on it. Try looking at more places than just this forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-14-2007, 03:57 PM
double post

VW-IceFire
06-14-2007, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem43:
Considering the dearth of information [any new paragraphs have been rehashes of the previous] over the past 5 months, I think it's safe to start looking into other offerings.

Sad fact is, even the best thought out projects are susceptible to failure.

IL-2 still has life in it, great game - let's not pine anymore about what could have been.

-Raven
Why would you say that? Just because the dev team isn't fulfilling our need for a new screen shot every month doesn't mean its not being worked on or isn't progressing in a timely fashion. I keep saying it but allot of game development is unglamorous stuff where the actual look of the game is terrible for months on end while stuff at the back end is being worked on. Stuff that only mathematicians and top level programmers might even consider to be interesting.

I think the announced the new game far too soon but thats just me. These things take time. Heck the recently announced StarCraft 2 has been in development since 2003 I was reading just today. Its now 2007 (as most of you well know http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) and it won't be out until at least 2008. IL-2 itself started in 1997 and didn't come out until a fair bit later. Storm of War is way ahead of its predecessor.

CarpeNoctem43
06-15-2007, 09:17 AM
Please click this link:

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=79018

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

If you are interested to discuss possibility to make menu screens for our flight sim Battle of Britain, please contact pf@1c.ru with the attention to Oleg Maddox in subject. Then I will answer from my own email.



</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Looks like an proposition for you to do some work. Nice... But considering this is the only reference to SoW in 5 pages, I hardly count this as an update.



You may also want to read this thread, as well:

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&...4&page=1#Post2228804

It's not that hard to look for and find info on BoB development, even if admittedly it's not much info. But work is progressing on it. Try looking at more places than just this forum Wink


Huhh??? Speculation by consumers is information? I guess so, in some way; not what anyone is looking for tho.

And why not this forum? It's home base for them. Wink




Why would you say that? Just because the dev team isn't fulfilling our need for a new screen shot every month doesn't mean its not being worked on or isn't progressing in a timely fashion. I keep saying it but allot of game development is unglamorous stuff where the actual look of the game is terrible for months on end while stuff at the back end is being worked on. Stuff that only mathematicians and top level programmers might even consider to be interesting.

I don't care about screen shots, I like em and all, but that's not the point. Point is we get no new information.

Don't have to tell me how glamorous or not software development is, been doing it for almost 15 years professionally and 25 totally. An update on progress has little to do with what's inside the black box, but everything to do with... progress...

And like I said, every new update anyone from the team, since last november / december, has given has been a rehash of the previous.

From experience, this really looks like a project that is in a death spiral.

XyZspineZyX
06-15-2007, 10:21 AM
CarpeNoctem-

I am not the artist http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I wasn't suggesting this was an update on progress on the sim- I used this as an example of evidence that BoB is still in production and is not halted or abandoned..you had posted it was time to essentially forget about BoB becoming a reality, so I introduced some evidence to the effect that BoB is not vaporware

stalkervision
06-15-2007, 12:38 PM
just in new sneek video preview of BOBSOW. I especially like the new sound track. Damage effects seem a tad too strong though. Aircraft props seem a bit overmodeled too..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAS1QP4s0BY&mode=related&search=

CarpeNoctem43
06-15-2007, 01:30 PM
I wasn't suggesting this was an update on progress on the sim- I used this as an example of evidence that BoB is still in production and is not halted or abandoned..you had posted it was time to essentially forget about BoB becoming a reality, so I introduced some evidence to the effect that BoB is not vaporware

Yeah I know what you meant; however a job offer for a job does not constitute an progress update on a software project. And who's to say this is a valid offer? The poster joined that day and this is the only post. Could go either way.



just in new sneek video preview of BOBSOW. I especially like the new sound track. Damage effects seem a tad over-modeled though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAS1QP4s0BY&mode=related&search=


You aren't serious are you?

Look at it this way, you announce a release date because you want to inform your consumers you have something to put out. Yeah, dates get altered. But not in the factors that have been involved here. Sure you may accept the answer "we want to make sure it's right." But wasn't that point applicable before you announced a release date? Yeah, dates get altered.

But what we have witnessed here is alterations due to some really big problem. Are 1C guys morons? I think not; Are they not capable of their own professions? I bet they are.

What we are observing is probably the result of someone dropping the ball in a BIG WAY! I.e. someone blew a business relationship required to finish it up. Or possibly a design requirement thought

Yes it's all speculation because its all hush hush... (aren't they the ones to publicly announce it?)

But to my original point is, maybe it's time to look into other offerings out there. Nothing lets a vendor/development firm know what consumers want than by show them.

Within the past 12 months alone I have spent probably 2% of my gross salary towards the combat flight simulator industry, with a hardware upgrade (because of playing) it could be as high as 3%. Which said and done equates to about a weeks work of work by one individual just to purchase the hardware and software.

Considering numbers like that, it's easy to see why the video game industry is billions of dollars each year. If someone wants a piece of it they have to participate.

And when it boils down to it, if a consumer is expected to fork out this kind of cash, is it too much to ask for a 'state of the union' in a forum where the people "in the know" are common participants and have said as much as 'we will answer your questions?'

Life's too short to get smoke blown up your rear.

-Raven

stalkervision
06-15-2007, 01:57 PM
quote:

just in new sneek video preview of BOBSOW. I especially like the new sound track. Damage effects seem a tad over-modeled though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAS1QP4s0BY&mode=related&search=



You aren't serious are you?


No, of course not.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Just trying to lighten up the mood for all you poor souls that want the game to come out so bad... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

CarpeNoctem43
06-15-2007, 02:14 PM
quote:
quote:

just in new sneek video preview of BOBSOW. I especially like the new sound track. Damage effects seem a tad over-modeled though..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAS1QP4s0BY&mode=related&search=



You aren't serious are you?



No, of course not.. Big Grin Just trying to lighten up the mood for all you poor souls that want the game to come out so bad... Smile

Oh I thought someone was really putting that up as a sneak preview. good 1

RamsteinUSA
06-15-2007, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
I have said this before and I will say it again. Oleg and team will pleasantly surprise us all to say the least. We will be BLOWN AWAY with what we will see in BoB.

Like with space ships and doll houses instead of the actual planes and fixed fm/dm 's??

not much confidence there..

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-15-2007, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by RamsteinUSA:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Choctaw111:
I have said this before and I will say it again. Oleg and team will pleasantly surprise us all to say the least. We will be BLOWN AWAY with what we will see in BoB.

Like with space ships and doll houses instead of the actual planes and fixed fm/dm 's??

not much confidence there..

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You have not much confidence in anything concerning anything that Maddox Games does, Ramstein

You only give the "we're doomed, we'll never make it" pessimistic angle. You're never pleased, you're never near satisfied, you never do anything but lay blame and be-moan the state of affairs, you're a defeatist's defeatist, an Eyore for the 21st century. You complain and belittle, all you do is post negativity

I wonder at what makes you continue to 'contribute' here. You have a vote of "no confidence", plainly, and have had for a long time

What's your deal? Why do you bother? Yes, we all know: Ramstein's unhappy- again. We've known for over a year, you needn't remind us, we haven't forgotten. How can we? All your posts are generally the same, or arrive at the same place, especially in the last 6 months: dollhouses and other terms designed to insult the people who make the sim and it's add-ons. That's your modus operandi, we get it

What do you aim to accomplish with your never-ending Saga of Gloom? I am genuinely curious

XyZspineZyX
06-15-2007, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem43:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I wasn't suggesting this was an update on progress on the sim- I used this as an example of evidence that BoB is still in production and is not halted or abandoned..you had posted it was time to essentially forget about BoB becoming a reality, so I introduced some evidence to the effect that BoB is not vaporware

Yeah I know what you meant; however a job offer for a job does not constitute an progress update on a software project. And who's to say this is a valid offer? The poster joined that day and this is the only post. Could go either way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So you are saying that this could easily be a bogus post by an imposter. Well, that opinion is yours and you're free to have it, just like your opinion on games development. I do detect a certain weary cynicism and built-in expectation of failure in your words, if you don't mind me saying- you seem very pre-disposed to beleiving that things will crash and burn, and I attribute this to your profession just as I do your opinion- they are both products of the same circumstance. It is my opinion that sometimes people "in the biz" lose some objectivity sometimes.

Yes, I know that you say you've been 'in the biz'...but, as you say yourself, it's just some random person posting to me- could go either way-

see my point?

It is not hard for me to beleive that progress is being made, and that work has not halted, and that the sim will be made. To you it is. We have our opinions. Yours is based on your business experience, mine is based on the very unusual circumstance we have found ourselves in, and the record of simulation development from this developer in the past

Urufu_Shinjiro
06-15-2007, 04:36 PM
News about BoB will be like news about anything else oleg has done, will will hear about it when he's damn-good-and-ready. Oleg does not operate the way most developers do, he is very serious about his sim and thats all he cares about, he's so busy making this thing and trying to get it done in a satisfactory manner/time that he could care less if there's those of us out here becoming impatient. And thats all your doing, saying it'll never happen like an impatient child waiting for xmas, and thats how oleg sees this kind of thing, it's childish and he doesn't have time for it. Everyone acts all surprised we aren't getting news, when have we EVER gotten news from oleg when we wanted it???

slappedsilly
06-16-2007, 07:25 AM
The no info / no news attitude makes me think things aren't going well. I am starting to get more interested in the new engine for Knights of the Sky game. I hope these guys will expand into WW2 with thier engine. I wonder too if Olegs mistakes with American plane manufacturers won't have a huge negative impact on his product later. It would be rather hard to leave American planes out and have any realism.

RSS-Martin
06-16-2007, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
News about BoB will be like news about anything else oleg has done, will will hear about it when he's damn-good-and-ready. Oleg does not operate the way most developers do, he is very serious about his sim and thats all he cares about, he's so busy making this thing and trying to get it done in a satisfactory manner/time that he could care less if there's those of us out here becoming impatient. And thats all your doing, saying it'll never happen like an impatient child waiting for xmas, and thats how oleg sees this kind of thing, it's childish and he doesn't have time for it. Everyone acts all surprised we aren't getting news, when have we EVER gotten news from oleg when we wanted it???

going by this you could then also think he doesn´t care if he has any customes as well?
and "damn-good-and-ready" well just need to think of PF and the Pearl Harbour mission, think nothing more needs to be said.

Ignore the customer and see how much revenue flows in? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

XyZspineZyX
06-16-2007, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
News about BoB will be like news about anything else oleg has done, will will hear about it when he's damn-good-and-ready. Oleg does not operate the way most developers do, he is very serious about his sim and thats all he cares about, he's so busy making this thing and trying to get it done in a satisfactory manner/time that he could care less if there's those of us out here becoming impatient. And thats all your doing, saying it'll never happen like an impatient child waiting for xmas, and thats how oleg sees this kind of thing, it's childish and he doesn't have time for it. Everyone acts all surprised we aren't getting news, when have we EVER gotten news from oleg when we wanted it???

going by this you could then also think he doesn´t care if he has any customes as well?
and "damn-good-and-ready" well just need to think of PF and the Pearl Harbour mission, think nothing more needs to be said.

Ignore the customer and see how much revenue flows in? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This isn't a Burger King...and in any case, you sure seem to be here, ignoring you as a customer or not...so where's the beef of your argument?

partic_3
06-18-2007, 01:17 AM
Unfortunately, due to a mis-translation early on in the piece, BOB:SOW has ended up being a game about a female pig called Bob. The porcine damage model is, apparently, world class but none-the-less there remains the potential for a fair bit of disappointment on the part of us flight simmers.
The game is also a resource hog.
Not to mention too many easter eggs where the dev team have really hammed it up.
Rumours, too, that the many of the farmyard AI routines are porked.