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knightflyte
03-28-2006, 12:01 AM
http://www.break.com/index/airshowcrash27.html

It's in Russian I beleive. Any translators to give an idea of what happened?

thefarb2
03-28-2006, 01:34 AM
wow, I would guess mig 29 but just guessing.

Capt.LoneRanger
03-28-2006, 02:06 AM
Su27 Flanker

(as the title also states) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

I wonder why it's this type of plane so often...


A Mig29 is standing next to the crowd, when the plane touches the ground in the first take.

selev
03-28-2006, 01:23 PM
I'm afraid this aircraft crashed at the Kiev airshow.I don't know about the pilot but there were people killed on the ground.
God bless.

GreyBeast
03-28-2006, 01:35 PM
From the video page:

"It looks like he does his best to maneuver away from the crowds but in the end he cant prevent the crash. I hope everyone was ok."

Yeah, right.

I've seen other footage from that crash at Lvov. Let me tell you... it's gruesome. Most of it is from the aftermath, the cameraman running towards where the aircraft crashed. Let's just say he ran across lots of body parts...

BelaLvgosi
03-28-2006, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by GreyBeast:

Yeah, right.

I've seen other footage from that crash at Lvov. Let me tell you... it's gruesome. Most of it is from the aftermath, the cameraman running towards where the aircraft crashed. Let's just say he ran across lots of body parts...

Yup, everytime I see that clip I always remember that a lot more happened on the ground. Some years ago those pics circulated the web.

Toten_Waffe
03-28-2006, 02:24 PM
I saw this in the news papers when it originally happened...I always thought is was an Su-27 but it looks more like the 2 seater Flanker, the Su-30 on closer inspection of the video. It definitely has a larger than usual canopy. Its a tragic accident nonetheless.

If it is an Su-30, then one of them crashed before in Paris during a display.

Waldo.Pepper
03-28-2006, 05:57 PM
http://newsfromrussia.com/cis/2002/07/29/33358_.html

BoCfuss
03-28-2006, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
Su27 Flanker

(as the title also states) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

I wonder why it's this type of plane so often...


A Mig29 is standing next to the crowd, when the plane touches the ground in the first take.

I really don't think it is as much the plane, as it is the pilots and lack of airshow regulations on said pilots. When you watch a mig or su in an airshow, you can see the pilot pushing the plane to its limits, often going beyond its limits to create "neat" and "awesome" manuevers. Even though they have been proven a too many times that they are deadly and dangerous. When you watch the F-XX fighters in airshows, you never seem them stall on purpose, or ever really close to it. The American airshows are not as popular as those abroad for these reasons. The planes have to perfom a great distance from the crowds as well.

CaptainGelo
03-28-2006, 10:17 PM
that have been all over the news , og and its not kiev airshow, but it is in Ukrain, I belive one engine failed at very bad moment


anyway, flanker is one of the best fighters in the world http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

CaptainGelo
03-28-2006, 10:18 PM
oh and all airshows are now forbidden in Ukrain

knightflyte
03-29-2006, 12:15 AM
Thanks for the link Waldo..........
Tragic.

Bremspropeller
03-29-2006, 07:38 AM
It wasn't for the engines - the pilots screwed up - as usually.
The russians crash planes regulary at airshows.

I mean: '89 (said to be caused by an engine stall while performing a "cobra", but that is highly unlikely since RD-33s are not at all prone to stalling at high alpha attitudes), '93, '00 (or '01) and the thing at Lvov...

They don't have much flying time which results in lack of experience. Those guys would never be allowed to perform if they were members of western airforces.