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Masta_Pain
01-15-2011, 07:30 PM
I'm in chapter 3 on the mission "Dinner Date" and I found this:


I am dressed as a Venetian noble, expensive garb and a fancy hat. Tessa says I am enjoying this too much. I bring only my hidden blades. Anything else may alert my prey.

Removing all weaponry except the bare essentials and wearing disguises to not attract attention to yourself. I know they have disguises in AC2 and ACB but for other missions they need to factor in the amount of visible weaponry you have on you and what colour you have your clothing dyed into the stealth component of the core games.

For example, the last Romulus lair in the Basilica di san Pietro where you have to tail that cardinal by blending in and out of groups, I can be in my bright white assassins outfit, covered in weapons, in the middle of a group of red clothed cardinals and the guy can stare right at me and not notice.

This is a huge flaw in the blending system, they really need to fix this for AC3.

Avl521
01-15-2011, 07:38 PM
I agree with you, but I'll make a slight suggestion, because mods will make it anyway.

Post this on the feedback thread:
AC:B Feedback (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4821045298)

But yeah I agree with you.

kriegerdesgottes
01-15-2011, 07:42 PM
I was hoping ACII would have disguises. It would be kind of cool if they implemented something like in Hitman where he can take the uniform/clothes of whoever he kills and then you are hidden from everyone, but if you do something out of place it draws attention to you and you can be caught. That would be cool.

TrueDemonzBane
01-15-2011, 07:48 PM
befor the mods close this, i wanna add that you should be able to loot any kind of clothes you want, to blend in with any group; guards, civilans, nobles, cardinals, anyone, but the protection they would give would varey, like civilan clothes would give almost none, where as guard clothes would give about half the protection of the assassin robes, also, i think that there isnt enough preperation like in the 2nd sequence in Project legacy. that guy spent weeks prepairing for his assault on one man, that is the kinda stuff that makes sense

Masta_Pain
01-15-2011, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Avl521:
I agree with you, but I'll make a slight suggestion, because mods will make it anyway.

Post this on the feedback thread:
AC:B Feedback (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4821045298)

But yeah I agree with you. Posted.

Avl521
01-15-2011, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Masta_Pain:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Avl521:
I agree with you, but I'll make a slight suggestion, because mods will make it anyway.

Post this on the feedback thread:
AC:B Feedback (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4821045298)

But yeah I agree with you. Posted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I agreed there too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You have a very good point, which I think the devs should have noticed... I know we all wondered how they never saw Ezio with his flashy clothing.

TheSpectator
01-16-2011, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Avl521:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Masta_Pain:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Avl521:
I agree with you, but I'll make a slight suggestion, because mods will make it anyway.

Post this on the feedback thread:
AC:B Feedback (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4821045298)

But yeah I agree with you. Posted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I agreed there too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You have a very good point, which I think the devs should have noticed... I know we all wondered how they never saw Ezio with his flashy clothing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I presumed it was an effect caused by the animus to help synchronization but the actual memory involved ezio in cardinal garb.

E-Zekiel
01-16-2011, 02:38 AM
Tbh if you blend, the armor of Altair clothing doesn't stand out THAT MUCH in AC2 or ACB. (moreso 2)

The white outfit is kind of a core cool flavor aspect of the series, I don't really want to see it moved away from unless it's optional, as it has been, heh.

Also, remember that in this particular age, there were no photos, and not everybody really knew what all to describe, as witnesses. If you incorporate the fact that Ezio, as he got older, leaned a lot more toward stealth, guarantee you he wasn't as memorable to those he didn't make a point to as you guys might think. YOU know what to look for. Doesn't mean they do in the story every time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Masta_Pain
01-16-2011, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by TheSpectator:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Avl521:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Masta_Pain:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Avl521:
I agree with you, but I'll make a slight suggestion, because mods will make it anyway.

Post this on the feedback thread:
AC:B Feedback (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/4821045298)

But yeah I agree with you. Posted. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And I agreed there too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
You have a very good point, which I think the devs should have noticed... I know we all wondered how they never saw Ezio with his flashy clothing. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I presumed it was an effect caused by the animus to help synchronization but the actual memory involved ezio in cardinal garb. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> That theory doesn't make any sense whatsoever, especially since Ezio is found wearing disguises/alternate-outfits in both AC2 and ACB.

Originally posted by E-Zekiel:
Tbh if you blend, the armor of Altair clothing doesn't stand out THAT MUCH in AC2 or ACB. (moreso 2)

The white outfit is kind of a core cool flavor aspect of the series, I don't really want to see it moved away from unless it's optional, as it has been, heh.

Also, remember that in this particular age, there were no photos, and not everybody really knew what all to describe, as witnesses. If you incorporate the fact that Ezio, as he got older, leaned a lot more toward stealth, guarantee you he wasn't as memorable to those he didn't make a point to as you guys might think. YOU know what to look for. Doesn't mean they do in the story every time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif I never said make this stuff mandatory, but in AC3 the stealth should become easier the more you blend into the crowd with similar clothing or just a lack of visible weapons. If you want to go in or stalk someone fully armed then fine, but it will be noticeably harder.

and answering your second paragraph, anyone who sees someone who is heavily armed with very visible weapons would instantly think of them as suspicious or dangerous, for example you wouldn't feel too easy if you saw a man walk into a shopping centre with a pistol in his hand would you?

swiftkinfe
01-16-2011, 07:57 AM
Around here thats farly normal(pistol thing).

Yeah I wonder about the blending to a little.Despite AC2's flashier more noble esque clothing.Walk around florence or venice and you look pretty natural.

Noble6
01-16-2011, 08:05 AM
I think Animus doesn't show memories too accurately. I'm pretty sure he didnt always use those flashy clothes. I blame lazy game developers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif.

Johno_efc
01-16-2011, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by Noble6:
I think Animus doesn't show memories too accurately. I'm pretty sure he didnt always use those flashy clothes. I blame lazy game developers http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif.

What it's lazy development that they've added more costumes, and customisation into the game. Go figure.

You could use the noble attire once you've unlocked it, thats a bit more conspicuous.

MrRoboto578
01-16-2011, 08:40 AM
I'm pretty sure the Animus shows exactly what happened, unless you don't get full synchronization. The Animus is just a tool that lets you watch your ancestors memories through the DNA, not change the actions he took. So if he was wearing the Assassins outfits in the Animus, then Ezio wore for real. No "Animus not being accurate" or anything stupid like that...

Avl521
01-16-2011, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by SargeAssassin:
I'm pretty sure the Animus shows exactly what happened, unless you don't get full synchronization. The Animus is just a tool that lets you watch your ancestors memories through the DNA, not change the actions he took. So if he was wearing the Assassins outfits in the Animus, then Ezio wore for real. No "Animus not being accurate" or anything stupid like that...

So you're saying that if in the Animus Ezio was wearing the Raiden outfit... he was wearing it in Rome back then????? WTF!

"Shoot! Shoot the flying demon!"

Noble6
01-16-2011, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by SargeAssassin:
I'm pretty sure the Animus shows exactly what happened, unless you don't get full synchronization. The Animus is just a tool that lets you watch your ancestors memories through the DNA, not change the actions he took. So if he was wearing the Assassins outfits in the Animus, then Ezio wore for real. No "Animus not being accurate" or anything stupid like that...
Are we sure that memories recorded to DNA are objective or are they subjective. Anyway Memories maybe aren't inaccurate but animus as machine may be. And like Avl said you can use different suits and there were interactive part in ACs cutscenes.

Avl521
01-16-2011, 12:03 PM
AND the 100% sync feature shows it's not entirely accurate.

If instead of killing the guy with the hidden blade like Ezio did, I kill him with the crossbow, what I just witnessed is not how it happened, therefore it's not extremely accurate.

Dracelix
01-16-2011, 02:04 PM
i agree on the fact that the animus isnt 100% accurate.
and also, when you are blending, the animus makes the crowd grey, so you watching it may not realise how flashy he is, because you just see alot of grey.


i liked the way where there were a few missions where you could disguise, like the french soldiers, or the borgia guard with the money box.
i wish we could use them disguises whenever we wanted to. since guards can still always get suspicious of you when used.

im surprised they didnt add alot more costumes. since half of them are just skins ezio uses, which is why they can make them available so easily through uplay and such.

swiftkinfe
01-16-2011, 05:52 PM
Yeah ezio did get a number of outfits unavailible for free use.I really wanted the AC2 robes.Cause you never realize how much you miss them untill there gone.

YHHTQ
01-17-2011, 07:43 AM
Some people should definately take into account that some inconsistencies are required, in order to make the gameplay manageable IMO.