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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 05:51 PM
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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 05:51 PM
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'Whirlwind Whiner'
The First of the Few

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 06:23 PM
That's a great story, thanks for the read. But now I'm dieing here...... how does it end? Were the spotted by the Japs? Did he fight them off with only his .45??? Like man, I need to know.

S~ RCAF_Trout

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 06:40 PM
Well, you could always buy the book RCAF_Trout?

Otherwise I might post another little snippet, maybe....

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 06:42 PM
Great story ! I want MORE ! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 07:12 PM
Kinda reminds you again about what sacrifices were made back then. It's good to be reminded every now and then. Such a gripping story....

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 08:00 PM
OR... Rent the movie... "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo" It is the movie made from the book, essentially.

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 09:11 PM
Amazing read! Thank you.
I'll go see if I can get a hold of the full book.

XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 09:17 PM
speaking of reading, Flight Journal is a great mag for aviation lovers. check it out.

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 09:19 PM
he was kill that is why there is no ending

"Never forget the past so we dont make the same mistakes in the future"

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XyZspineZyX
08-16-2003, 11:21 PM
Aztek_Eagle wrote:
- he was kill that is why there is no ending
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Wrong.

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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 10:43 AM
"The first Heroes"? In 1942? /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 11:58 AM
Most of the Doolittle Raiders were captured after ditching in china and executed in public. Man I don't remember the percentage but Doolitle and his crew made it back and maybe- maybe- two or three other crews.


Brave brave guys. Truelly men.

XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 12:08 PM
Mr.Krunchie, you are wrong mate. 90% of the crews made it back...3 were executed in Japan, Hallmark, Farrow and Spatz by a firing squad.

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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 12:26 PM
Really? Hmmm time to bang my head on the table and see if the marbles scramble into their proper places this time. Cause the current set doesn't seem to be doing too well atm.


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XyZspineZyX
08-17-2003, 07:31 PM
Correct. There were 16 acft, five crewmembers each, for a total of 80 crewmembers.

One B25 landed in Russia and were detained by the Russians for a period of time.

All 15 of the others crashed in China, mostly along the coast(fuel had run out). None were Shot Down.

Two crews/8 crewmembers were captured(two of These crews had died in the crash landings)They were brought to Japan and put on trial. Five were sent to prison camps for the duration of the war; four of these survived the war. Three crewmembers, seemingly selected at random, were executed.

The 70+ Crewmembers met every year after the war for a reunion, and the surviving members still meet annually(those physically capable of making the trip, as they are getting old). There is a small silver wine cup engraved with the name of each of the 80 crewmwmbers. The cups of the deceased are displayed upside down. At the reunions, the cups of those who have died in the previous year are then also turned upside down. The cups are kept on display between reunions at the US Air Force Academy. There is a bottle of liquour(wine?Brandy?) which the last surviving member will then open and drink a toast to the other 79 who have died. It's a Great story and a grand tradition.

As with everything else in that crap 'pearl harbor' movie with affleck and baldwin, etc, they screwed up the Doolittle Raid part as Well as teh pearl harbor part. There were NO crewmembers shot by Japanese troops in a fight in China. There were NO gunfights between the three crash-landed/escaping crewmembers and the Japanese who captured them. The BS with that josh hartneet(?SP?) being killed in a Save the Alamo fight to the death was,well..BS! The Raiders did NOT fly in B17-like box formation on the raid, as shown in the pearl harbor movie....and, Doolittle did NOT have to recruit P40 FIGHTERpilots to pilot his B25 BOMBERS!!!! As I said, pearl harbor movie was crap...It could only have been worse if they had Fat-a$$ed Jennifer Lopez playing a tail gunner!!

P.S.

During my early years in the US Air Force, I had the pleasure of working directly for one of the Raiders...James Macia...He was a full colonel, while I was a lieutenant and captain. He was a very senior Colonel!!! A lieutenant(Navigator) at the time of the Tokyo Raid, he ended the war as a Lieutenant Colonel three years later. He flew two tours od duty,80 B26 missions, in Europe during the war, from March 1943 until April 1945. He was promoted to Full Colonel towards the end of the Korean war in 1953, and served as a colonel until early 1973. He was the last of the raiders to retire from active duty.

He was the most soft-spoken, calmest, Decent man I've ever worked for....I have to think that his demeanor and attitude and philosophy of life had a Lot to do with his WWII Combat experiences.

He is still alive. I hope he is the last one to go. I'd like to be there when he makes that final toast.

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Here's a link to a great site with LOTS of details about the raid and the raiders:
http://www.homeofheroes.com/wings/part2/01_doolittle_raiders.html

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