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jessi1
06-29-2005, 12:36 PM
I want to know if trimming your plane to take pressure of the stick makes your plane faster or not, or does it simply take pressure off the stick. It seems to me that when i fly with the default trim(when i dont touch trim at all) in the 190 or when i trim it(elevator that is) down 15 clicks or so to lessen the stick force there is no significant difference in speed(no increase or decrease). When i dont trim it and fly with default it does help to keep the plane in a state of climbing and not a real loss of speed also. When i mean climbing i mean that it helps the plane turn better and stay in a motion to climb more rapidly when needed. Do you all believe theres a big difference in speed when trimmed or not, and do any of you fly the 190 without trimming the plane to help turns(not past 90degrees) or for quicker climbing??.

NonWonderDog
06-29-2005, 01:54 PM
In theory, trim tabs will be no effect on speed if you can keep the plane straight and steady without them. All the tabs do is take pressure off the stick.

In practice, you can't really keep the plane straight and steady without some kind of trim control. So you'll probably be a little bit faster if you trim for your current speed and climb rate. You'll definitely be a lot less irritated, too, and that's the main purpose of trim. You won't gain any special advantages either way.

The thing to worry about here that will cost you the most speed is sideslip. As long as you keep the ball centered in the turn-and-slip indicator you'll be fine.

Henkie_
06-29-2005, 05:07 PM
Really?

When I put in 5 clicks aileron trim, 5 clicks of rudder trim and 10 clicks of elevator trim, it is like I put on WEP.

The speedboost is unbelievable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

The more trim you put the faster you go. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

diomedes33
06-29-2005, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by Henkie_:
Really?

When I put in 5 clicks aileron trim, 5 clicks of rudder trim and 10 clicks of elevator trim, it is like I put on WEP.

The speedboost is unbelievable. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

The more trim you put the faster you go. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Joke? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

<STRIKE>If it was serious, read the last paragraph of NonWonderDog's post again.</STRIKE>

Nevermind, if you've been around since '02 its gotta be a joke or you're delusional.

faustnik
06-29-2005, 05:51 PM
Jessi,

I am always playing with the trim settings in 4.01. In dives, it makes a big speed difference to re-trim the Fw190 as speed increases. The reverse holds true as you climb, trimming "up" lets you climb with less stick pressure.

Henkie_
06-29-2005, 07:05 PM
Sorry yes, just kidding ofcourse. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Only influence that trim has on speed is with rudder trim. Keep the ball in the center and you fly the most energy efficient.

For the rest, trim is not for flying faster. You have other things like WEP to fly faster.