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Sultan_of_Swing
05-31-2005, 09:47 AM
I now have the Fighterstick and Pro Pedals and I love them. I can see what all the praise for CH is about. But I wonder, is the Pro Throttle worth the $. I have lots of programming ability with stick using all three modes. Can someone tell me what I gain by using the separate throttle?

horseback
05-31-2005, 10:00 AM
22+ buttons and a throttle on your left where it belongs? If you don't have the TrackIR, you get to assign your POV hat to the one on the throttle, which is much easier to reach while maneuvering, and you can use your stick hat for elevator and rudder trim the way God intended.

I've had one for over two years, and I can't imagine CEM without it.

cheers

horseback

coturnix
05-31-2005, 10:38 AM
Get Saitek X45 HOTAS and use only throttle. It´s much cheaper than CH and it have two rotaries (CH doesn´t have any). Rotaries are excellent for trim and zoom view. It also have "mini mouse" and much more.

Ultimate setup: Saitek X45 throttle, Microsoft Force Feedback II Stick, CH Pro Pedals and TrackIR 3 pro with vector expansion.

Capt.LoneRanger
05-31-2005, 11:47 AM
AFAIK CH-HOTAS has a rotary (mouse wheel).

Besides that, the CH-Throttle is worlds better than buying a complete X45 to get the it's throttle. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

CH is worth the money anytime.

coturnix
05-31-2005, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
AFAIK CH-HOTAS has a rotary (mouse wheel).

Besides that, the CH-Throttle is worlds better than buying a complete X45 to get the it's throttle. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

CH is worth the money anytime.

No rotaries. Be sure. Saitek´s quality is good for it´s prize.

Jaws2002
05-31-2005, 02:59 PM
Originally posted by coturnix:

No rotaries. Be sure. Saitek´s quality is good for it´s prize.
I have the same setup, CH stick and pedals, i did not get the throttle for exactly same reason. NO ROTARIES or SLIDERS.
I think CH wants you to buy throttle quadrant and Pro throttle to have a compleat set.
Saitek throttle is much better in my opinion. Lots of buttons and sliders at a better price.

Jaws2002
05-31-2005, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
AFAIK CH-HOTAS has a rotary (mouse wheel).

Besides that, the CH-Throttle is worlds better than buying a complete X45 to get the it's throttle. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

CH is worth the money anytime.

The compleet X45 is cheaper then Ch pro Throttle

Bearcat99
05-31-2005, 08:11 PM
Get an X-45 from here (http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html). The benifit of a throttle is that you get more control and more immersion.

stubby
06-01-2005, 06:08 AM
Durability with the Saitek sticks is an issue. Everybody I know that has one, has worn out the parts in only a couple of years or less. The CH products on the other hand will less a decade. If it breaks down, CH folks will fix or replace stick at no cost to you execpt for shipping.

RevvinUK
06-01-2005, 06:58 AM
I'd stick with what you know, CH gear has impressed you so far and a throttle unit would make a good addition to your setup. You have two choices, either a Pro Throttle or Throttle Quadrant. I have both and would recommend either of them.

It depends on what you play most, personally I feel the Throttle Quadrant is well suited to WWII flight sims especially if you used complex engine management in IL-2. Despite IL-2 not supporting many controls via an analogue input you can map digital outputs to the levers so for instance I have a twin engine setup, IL-2 only really limits it because you have to flick a switch below the engine lever to switch to that engine before moving the corresponding throttle or RPM lever. For single engine planes I have levers inputting analogue values for Throttle and RPM and then on the remaining 4 levers I have controls such as mixture, landing gear, arrestor hook and flaps mapped to them. Having those controls mapped to a lever means I can look down at the Throttle Quadrant and see if my landing gear, hook, flaps etc are up or down by checking the position of the lever.

The Pro Throttle is also a good choice as you can then use the wheel on the stick as RPM. The ministick can be programemd to control you're mouse, be another two joystick axis or you can program it as another 4-way hat switch. With three or 4 modes available and shifted functions in each of those modes you'll rarely need to reach to you're keyboard.

I don't see the point in using a hybrid controller setup as unless you map those controls in game then you'd have to load up two joystick profiles using two different software utilities. I prefer to map my controls through the CH Control Manager software as then I don't have to worry about backing up .ini files from games if I have to re-install them. Also the Control Manager software allows you to do things that you can't when using them in DirectX mode. Also if you use the Control Manager Utility Pack (http://www.chproducts.com/retail/tech_cm_utility_pack.html) then you can select a profile from you're taskbar and have the utility load up you're chosen sim automatically once the profile is downloaded to you're joysticks.

Capt.LoneRanger
06-01-2005, 07:10 AM
Just because a complete X45 stick is cheaper than a CH-ProThrottle doesn't mean it's the same in quality or fits everybodys needs.

And, to be honest, the rotaries of the X45 are okay, but far from good, especially compared to other HOTAS on the market!

If I had the choice, I'd go for the CH-ProThrottle anytime. It's a whole big difference in quality compared to the X45. Owning a Fighterstick & ProThrottle (Gameport), an X45 and a Cougar, I think this opinion has a quite solid basis. It simply is a different league than the X45 and, to be honest, trim on a slider is most usefull to RBJ alone. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

BelaLvgosi
06-01-2005, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by Capt.LoneRanger:
And, to be honest, the rotaries of the X45 are okay, but far from good, especially compared to other HOTAS on the market!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

On a side note, I actually prefered the rotaries on the x45 than in the cougar, both have the off center detent problem which is resolved by calibration/dead zones, but the travel on the x45 corresponds to electronic travel too, while on the cougar you can make some turns after 0% or 100% which isn't that intuitive.

Capt.LoneRanger
06-01-2005, 11:01 AM
On a side note, I actually prefered the rotaries on the x45 than in the cougar, both have the off center detent problem which is resolved by calibration/dead zones, but the travel on the x45 corresponds to electronic travel too, while on the cougar you can make some turns after 0% or 100% which isn't that intuitive.


Shhhh - don't tell anybody, but you need to calibrate the Cougar when pluggin it in http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Try both sticks with LOMACs sensitive Zoom and come back again to claim X45 rotaries are better.