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iRuffy
12-28-2008, 03:41 PM
Hi,
I'm new to IL2 having only picked it up a couple of months back and not had much time till now to play it.
I really want to try out a few decent campaigns, (I'm not a great fan of single missions) but cant seem to find many that are either familiar to me or exciting.
- I want to do a Battle of Britain campaign as a RAF pilot (I understand there are ones you can download), I would also love to play this on a proper map of Britain if there is one available yet?

- Campaigns with jets. Are there any included?

- A decent Pacific campaign, the one I'm on in the Coral sea keeps sending me out on boring rescue missions with no enemy planes?

-Any RAF campaigns. There seems very little supplied with the game.

The most exiting campaign so far is the Singapore campaing I'm doing whereby you are constantly scrambled to see 20 or 30 enemies!

Appreciate any input. I love flying in this game but seem to be spending hours trying to find something interesting to me.

relcox
12-28-2008, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
Hi,
I'm new to IL2 having only picked it up a couple of months back and not had much time till now to play it.
I really want to try out a few decent campaigns, (I'm not a great fan of single missions) but cant seem to find many that are either familiar to me or exciting.
- I want to do a Battle of Britain campaign as a RAF pilot (I understand there are ones you can download), I would also love to play this on a proper map of Britain if there is one available yet?

- Campaigns with jets. Are there any included?

- A decent Pacific campaign, the one I'm on in the Coral sea keeps sending me out on boring rescue missions with no enemy planes?

-Any RAF campaigns. There seems very little supplied with the game.

The most exiting campaign so far is the Singapore campaing I'm doing whereby you are constantly scrambled to see 20 or 30 enemies!

Appreciate any input. I love flying in this game but seem to be spending hours trying to find something interesting to me.

For RAF campaigns I believe you need BOE which you can get here

http://www.justflight.com/product.asp?pid=16

and the patch for it which is included in the EnjoyR patch I mention below, the EnjoyR patch adds a lot of campaigns for offline play and I'm sure you will find something to your taste.
If you don't want BOE you can get the EnjoyR patch for no addons.

It's cheap!

Get the EnjoyR patches which can be found over at Mission4Today.

Not sure if I can give links for that so someone that does know I hope will help with that if it's allowed.

Divine-Wind
12-28-2008, 06:53 PM
Actually you can find the RAF campaign pack over Mission4Today (http://www.mission4today.com), along with several BoB campaigns. If you get 4.09 modded (Google allaircraftarcade for them), you can play several Battle of Britain campaigns on the modded Channel map. Otherwise there's plenty of BoB camps made for vanilla 1946.

You'll also definitely want to get Enjoyr Patches. I can be a little confusing figuring out which ones you need, but there's a whole slew of dynamic campaigns that are added.

relcox
12-28-2008, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Divine-Wind:
Actually you can find the RAF campaign pack over Mission4Today (http://www.mission4today.com), along with several BoB campaigns. If you get 4.09 modded (Google allaircraftarcade for them), you can play several Battle of Britain campaigns on the modded Channel map. Otherwise there's plenty of BoB camps made for vanilla 1946.

You'll also definitely want to get Enjoyr Patches. I can be a little confusing figuring out which ones you need, but there's a whole slew of dynamic campaigns that are added.

Great, wish I had known about the RAF campaigns a long time ago http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif , any one done a Britain/Channel map? I mean not borrowed like the Moscow map but with RAF planes for eg.

Divine-Wind
12-28-2008, 10:14 PM
The 352nd virtual squadron is working on a very nice looking channel map I believe, you can see some shots of it in the 'Why people use mods' thread. You kind of have to look around a bit in the last couple of pages, though.

Magic369
12-28-2008, 11:07 PM
I can recommend FlatSpinMan's Battle of France campaign as well as probably Compan's No32 Sqn campaigns (haven't been able to play them yet) and definitely the two parts of my favourite BoB campaign: "Hurricane Season" and "Spit N' Fire" which can be found at M4T.

Divine-Wind
12-28-2008, 11:43 PM
Yup, definitely want to check out FlatSpinMan's Luftwaffe pilot series if you ever decide you want to take a break from Spits and Hurricanes.

Also, I just noticed the first two questions in the original post, lol:

There are several jet campaigns included with 1946, but I haven't personally played through any, so I can't comment on them.
There are also plenty of Pacific campaigns over at Mission4Today, including some excellent ones by Zeus-cat (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=301). But there dozens more at M4T, so be sure to look around.

iRuffy
12-29-2008, 03:14 AM
Thanks for the responses.

One thing, I've found a RAF campaign folder on M4T which says it is a folder.
A lot of these say "compatible with 4.04 etc. Am i right in saying that if I'm using a later version i.e 4.08 then they will all work?

I downloaded STAB last night so hopefully that will make things easier.

I'm also hoping to produce a couple of videos soon. Noob ones!

iRuffy
12-29-2008, 03:35 AM
Also,
any idea how I find the jet campaigns?

The problem I'm having, no doubt like any un-educated person, is that I don't know what aircraft I will find under each Airforce or theater. As you select the country or air force first this is the problem.

dirkpit7
12-29-2008, 03:59 AM
You don't need to download RAF folder, it's already there with the 1946 release. 4.04 compatible will work with 4.08, like all campaigns released for earlier versions. Campaigns for 4.09b version may not work with 4.08.

Good move getting the Stab, it's extremely helpful program.

The stock jet campaigns are available for Germany and USSR. The German ones are "Burning Streak" (or something like that; you'll start with FW190 but move to jets soon) and "The Rebel" (Ar-234 jet bomber campaign). For the USSR it's "VVS -46" where you will fly jet fighters. These campaigns are pretty good but challenging, especially the Soviet one.

Make sure you check out the campaign download section in Mission4Today. There are probably hundreds of campaigns there and for all possible theatres.

dirkpit7
12-29-2008, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by relcox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Divine-Wind:
Actually you can find the RAF campaign pack over Mission4Today (http://www.mission4today.com), along with several BoB campaigns. If you get 4.09 modded (Google allaircraftarcade for them), you can play several Battle of Britain campaigns on the modded Channel map. Otherwise there's plenty of BoB camps made for vanilla 1946.

You'll also definitely want to get Enjoyr Patches. I can be a little confusing figuring out which ones you need, but there's a whole slew of dynamic campaigns that are added.

Great, wish I had known about the RAF campaigns a long time ago http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif , any one done a Britain/Channel map? I mean not borrowed like the Moscow map but with RAF planes for eg. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't know much about the mods but I think the Channel maps are quite new. No more than a few months, maybe. There is a modded campaigns -section in M4T, try to look there.

iRuffy
12-29-2008, 04:07 AM
Ahh thankyou dirkpit.

iRuffy
12-29-2008, 04:21 AM
There is no "modded" campaigns section just a campaigns section.

I think I'm going to have to have a good read about this as I'm getting confused.

I have 1946 dvd installed 4.08 and STAB not sure if I need to downlaod extra maps, extra campaigns or both.

dirkpit7
12-29-2008, 05:23 AM
My comment about modded campaigns was for relcox. They are there as "specialised files".

I'd say don't worry about mods yet. There's a lot to figure out at beginning even without them. And if you stay on the regular downloads you will not need any extra maps. They only use those included in the game. You will do fine with the 4.08 version you currently have.

crucislancer
12-29-2008, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
There is no "modded" campaigns section just a campaigns section.

I think I'm going to have to have a good read about this as I'm getting confused.

I have 1946 dvd installed 4.08 and STAB not sure if I need to downlaod extra maps, extra campaigns or both.

Like dirkpit7 said, best to stay away from mods to start with. IL-2 1946 v4.08 has a bunch of content already, though it can be confusing to figure out what you can add on later.

There are 2 types of campaigns in IL-2: Dynamic campaigns (usually called DGen), and static campaigns.

The two campaigns that you mentioned you are playing (Coral Sea and Singapore) are both DGen campaigns. DGen will take a series of files with various bits of info and use that to randomly generate a mission. When you look at the campaign selection screen, typically the ones with the * next to then are DGen careers, for instance: * US Navy Fighter. When you select a career, you usually have several campaigns to choose from, and in some cases you can change which plane you start out with. With the USN example, you could start your career later in the war with Hellcats or even Corsairs rather then at the beginning in the Coral Sea. While Dgen campaigns are random, the missions generated do repeat on occasion, in some cases quite a bit. The biggest dissapointment, however, is that a freshly installed IL-2 game has some missing campaigns. There are no RAF campaigns at all, for instance.

The Enjoyr patch that was mentioned above helps to rectify that situation. Some Dgen campaigns were made and released by 3rd party mission builders, some for free and some for pay. The series of patches adds some of those campaigns, and there are different versions depending on if you have any of the 3rd party pay add-ons (Battle Over Eruope, The Last Days, Ostfront).
As you don't have any of the pay add-ons yet, you need this patch: EnjoyrPatch for No Addons v4.6 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1972). There are also several downloads with aircraft skins that need to be downloaded as well, the links to those are on the page I just linked above. I highly recommend backing up the folder called "Dgen" in your IL-2 directory, and then unzip all the files and install them into a dummy folder on your desktop. Then copy and paste into your IL-2 directory. Make sure to read the readmes and such. If everything goes right you should have a bunch more Dgen files to play with, plus about a GB of new aircraft skins.

I could go on about Dgen stuff, but I think I'll stop boring you at this point. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

The other type of campaign is the static campaign. These campaigns are made by making missions in the Full Mission Builder (FMB). There are a few for Germany and Russia that came with the game, but that's nothing. Anybody can make missions in the FMB, and there have been some fantastic examples out there, for most theaters and air forces of WWII. Got to mission4today, and the campaigns (offline) section to find a ton of campaigns. I've gone back and downloaded most of these over the past year or so, and I had nearly 250 campaigns. Most of the campaigns will play fine in version 4.08, but there are a few that require the beta patch of v4.09. That beta patch is available on mission4today, so if you want to go that route you have the option. If you like RAF campaigns, you will find plenty to choose from. I think my favorites are Storm Clouds Part 1 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=777) and Part 2 (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1638) by IceFire, and Fortress Eruope (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1259) by VPMedia.

For Pacific campaigns, check out the Hell in the Pacific series by PhilK ( Peleliu (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=1766), Guam (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=2273), and Iwo Jima (http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=2016)).

Ok, I'm boring you to tears now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Good luck on your search for good campaigns, there are a ton out there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jensenpark
12-29-2008, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by iRuffy:


- A decent Pacific campaign, the one I'm on in the Coral sea keeps sending me out on boring rescue missions with no enemy planes?




I highly recommend "Castaways" (both original and the sequel) by HH_Dubbo. Both are very well regarded.

Zeus-Cat has several great ones as well. Look for the "Straight from..." series he's done. Newest is a B25 skip bombing campaign. Fun with lots of goodies put in.

iRuffy
12-29-2008, 01:25 PM
Not boring lancer far from it. much appreciated.
I didn't actually realise that BOE was from a third party developer. Its amazing the amount of stuff that you can get paid for and free for this sim. Absolutely amazing.
That explains it about the campaigns.

I'm gonna try out some of the ones you mention.

If I'd been on at the start of this game many years ago I guess it wouldn't be so overwhelming, but I was playing EAW which itself was very modded etc and I loved the maps and stuff but this is SOOO technically superior.

That said I've only had a beast of a PC for the last year which can really do PC games justice.

I wish I'd got a Track IR for xmas http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

crucislancer
12-29-2008, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
Not boring lancer far from it. much appreciated.
I didn't actually realise that BOE was from a third party developer. Its amazing the amount of stuff that you can get paid for and free for this sim. Absolutely amazing.
That explains it about the campaigns.

I'm gonna try out some of the ones you mention.

If I'd been on at the start of this game many years ago I guess it wouldn't be so overwhelming, but I was playing EAW which itself was very modded etc and I loved the maps and stuff but this is SOOO technically superior.

That said I've only had a beast of a PC for the last year which can really do PC games justice.

I wish I'd got a Track IR for xmas http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

No problem. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

EAW? If you worked with all the mods on that one you should be ok with IL-2 and it's little oddities. Once you get the hang of how it all works, adding campaigns is going to be a snap.

I've only been playing for a little over 2 years now, and I'm still discovering cool stuff. My install has so much offline content I would need about a year of daily playing to get through what I haven't touched yet. IL-2 has a lot of longevity for those that choose to make full use of it.

iRuffy
12-29-2008, 02:43 PM
Storm clouds looks brilliant actually, but somehow I want to do BOB and maybe a D Day mission or two first. I dunno I just want to do them in order!! lol. I spend most of my time on here and not flying! Going to do some downloading then. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FlatSpinMan
12-30-2008, 04:27 AM
If you want to do BOB your best bet is Cobra's Battle of Britain: Hurricane Season and Spit'n' fire campaigns. They don't use the currently work-in-progress modded Channel maps but they're very good if you can get beyond the geographical rearrangement.
The modded maps are too new for anyone to have done much with yet -actually there may be a campaign available for CanonUK's Channel BETA map now that I think about it. His full version of the map won't be out for a while yet and, as it takes at least weeks to make a campaign, nothing much will be available for it right away.

As teh guys above said, if you want to fly Luftwaffe in BOB, my campaign lets you do that. It uses the same map template as Cobra's series.

If you want to warm up and get used to the Hurri before starting the Batle of Britain, try my RAF Pilot: France campaign. It follows the Phoney War and then moves through to the Battle of France and Dunkirk so you get a nice, slow buildup to learn how to fight in the Hurri MkI.

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 06:54 AM
Cool thats sounds great.
I can start right at the beginning of the war from an RAF perspective then. Thanks.

Does anyone know who else sells the paid for add ons? I can only find BOE on just flight.

Also before playing the campaigns you mention should I download the correct EnjoyR patch first? Or will it make no difference?

FlatSpinMan
01-02-2009, 07:53 AM
I hope you have fun with them. Let me know if you have any problems or comments.

For any DGen campaign I think you need those Enjoyr's patches. Most user made campaigns, not all, are called static campaigns - that is, the events are randomly generated. For this latter type of campaign, the Enjoyr patches aren't needed.
FSM's unmodded campaigns page. (http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=search&sa=104)

DD_crash
01-02-2009, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
Cool thats sounds great.
I can start right at the beginning of the war from an RAF perspective then. Thanks.

Does anyone know who else sells the paid for add ons? I can only find BOE on just flight.

Also before playing the campaigns you mention should I download the correct EnjoyR patch first? Or will it make no difference?
Hello there, I am sure that I saw several copies of the Ostfont add on for sale on Ebay (UK)

crucislancer
01-02-2009, 08:16 AM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
Does anyone know who else sells the paid for add ons? I can only find BOE on just flight.

Also before playing the campaigns you mention should I download the correct EnjoyR patch first? Or will it make no difference?

I found Ostfront on GoGamer: Ostfront (http://www.gogamer.com/Ostfront-Add-On-for-IL-2-Forgotten-Battles-for-PC-Flight-Simulations_stcVVproductId4760181VVcatId444812VVvi ewprod.htm).

I can't seem to find anyone selling The Last Days, but it comes up every now and then on eBay.

The Enjoyr patches are only for DGen campaigns like the ones in BOE, Ostfront, and The Last Days. You wouldn't need it to play RAF Pilot: France, for instance.

For the Enjoyr patch, I've found this to be the best way to get started:

- Patch to 4.08m

- Make sure you have the voice pack, campaign folder and medals pack for Italy. The campaign folder (with the medals) is called "IT", and it will be in Missions\Campaign\. The voice pack will be in Samples\Speech\IT, and there will be folders in there called Actor1, Actor2, etc. If you don't have that stuff, you can get it At this link. (http://ftp.ubi.com./uk/pacificfighters/missions/Italian_Pack.zip)

- Back up your Dgen folder. I do this every time I install one of Enjoyr's patches, as occasionally there might be a career that gets broken, so it's very easy to just restore a backup. Also, if you get some of the add-on campaigns later, you can take that first backup and use it to install the add-ons and then the corresponding Enjoyr patch.

- Download the appropriate Enjoyr patch and skin packs. There are 6 skin packs, but you don't need all of them if you are just using Dgen without add-ons. It doesn't hurt to download and install all of them anyway, there are some great skins in those packs.

- Make a folder on your desktop, call it whatever you like.

- unzip the patch and all the skin packs, and install them in the folder you made on the desktop. If you are using a enjoyr patch that is for add-ons, there will be a couple of files to run, be sure to run them in order (PatchA and PatchB, for instance).

- When you are done, the folder will have several sub folders, the only ones you really need are "DGen" and "PaintSchemes", and file called "DGen.exe". The rest of the stuff is either folders with readmes or some extra stuff for mod campaigns. Not needed, but you might want to take a look at them, especially the campaign readmes.

- Copy the stuff in the folder to your root IL-2 directory, making sure that you let windows overwrite "DGen", "PaintSchemes", and file called "DGen.exe".

- Start the game and you will see some new campaigns that are available, some for RAF, I think there is a NL one in Singapore that you can try, twice as many USN and USMC campaigns, and so on. A complete list of all the campaigns and where they came from is in one of the readmes in the enjoyr patch.

I follow this every time I update DGen, and it hasn't failed me.

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 11:30 AM
Hi,
I am in the process of doing what you advise.
gonna take about 2 hrs to download those 5 skin packs!
I have done the IT addition, however when I did that the readme suggested to simply copy them into the main dir. However I already had a missions folder etc which had a lot more in it than the IT folder! so over writing it as the readme suggested would have screwed my install right up. I went through each on the folders and only put the files that I didn't have in their correct place. I hope that has worked.
With regards to the skin packs am I replacing any or simply adding more as I dont want to lose anything?

crucislancer
01-02-2009, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
Hi,
I am in the process of doing what you advise.
gonna take about 2 hrs to download those 5 skin packs!
I have done the IT addition, however when I did that the readme suggested to simply copy them into the main dir. However I already had a missions folder etc which had a lot more in it than the IT folder! so over writing it as the readme suggested would have screwed my install right up. I went through each on the folders and only put the files that I didn't have in their correct place. I hope that has worked.
With regards to the skin packs am I replacing any or simply adding more as I dont want to lose anything?

Overwriting should not screw up your install. You can install that Italian Pack as many times as you want, it won't mess with anything. You will find that you will overwrite files quite a bit when patching the game, or installing new campaigns, as some campaigns might not only share the same directories, but the same skins.

The Skins Packs would be all new for you. There might be some skins that are shared between the different packs, but for the most part, it's all new stuff.

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 12:47 PM
Thanks I just dont want to press the wrong button.
My PaintSchemes folder is 1.67gb with the italian stuff being the only thing added since the the original 1946 dvd install and the patch 4.08.
If I replace it with the new paintschemes folder created by downloading and installing the 5 EnjoyR skin packs will it not replace the folder in its entirety erasing anything that was in the original folder and not in the replacement?

I guess the other way of putting it is am I losing anything from my original install by doing this?

Sorry if this is obvious, but I'll make a separate copy anyhow.

crucislancer
01-02-2009, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
I guess the other way of putting it is am I losing anything from my original install by doing this?

Nope. You won't lose anything. The Skin packs are laid out so that when they install they will put everthing in the proper folder order, and will not take anything out.

But, there are cases that some campaigns aren't compressed properly, and you wind up having to install it manually, i.e. coping the campaign folder, putting the individual skins in the proper folders, and so on. There are also cases of some campaigns having things like different medal packs or backgrounds, which can be a hassle but can also add to the feel of a certain campaign. This is why I said above to create a folder on your desktop, install everything into the folder, and then copy and paste when you are ready.

For campaigns, the directory structure is [IL-2 Root\Missions\Campaign\appropriate country folder] So, if you want to install a campaign that is meant to be played as RAF, it would go in the GB subfolder in the Campaign folder. Luftwaffe would be DE. I don't recall the exact count offhand, but it should be around 18 folders.

For the skins, the directory structure is [IL-2 Root\PaintSchemes\Skins\appropriate plane folder]. So, if you downloaded a skin for the Bf109F-4, it would go in the subfolder called Bf109F-4. I don't recall the exact count here, either, but it's in the neighborhood of 310 different plane folders.

Once you see how the directory structure works, then you will become a pro at updateing and installing campaigns.

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 01:43 PM
OK I think I get it.
got half of them downloaded and installed in a desktop folder away from my install. Only problem is that the 270mb 1.2 skins download is corrupted, I'm trying to download it again now. A mirror site might help tho. not sure if the problem is at my end or not the others seems to have downloaded and extracted ok.

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 02:46 PM
By the way I like the sound of your band!

crucislancer
01-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
By the way I like the sound of your band!

Cool! Thanks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 03:06 PM
OK my original paintschemes folder was 1.67gb, the downloaded one was 1.69, the new one is now 3.34gb so I guess it has combined the two. thanks.
The way windows gives you the warning its like you are loosing everything not combining.

crucislancer
01-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by iRuffy:
The way windows gives you the warning its like you are loosing everything not combining.

Yeah, Windows isn't going to blow your install, but you still need to be careful. The only time I can see you losing something is if, for instance, you have two different skin files with the same name, and you let one overwrite the other. But, I've never had that problem, and I'm updating the same files.

FlatSpinMan
01-02-2009, 05:11 PM
Sorry! My above post should read "are NOT randomly generated (in the case of static campaigns)".
Sorry if this caused confusion.

iRuffy
01-02-2009, 05:30 PM
LOL.
Yeah I figured that, no worries.
I am about to try your RAF france campaign so I'll let you know what I think. Although I might have to go back and do the "straight from the barn" as I realizing how far away I am from being competent at this game!

FlatSpinMan
01-03-2009, 07:54 AM
Straight from the Farm is definitely a good way to get to grips with the game -it is really really hard.

Let me know how you go with the campaign. I'm going to upload a new version shortly which just rectifies a few more missing skin errors - nothing major.