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NGW1031982
01-17-2005, 08:27 PM
What do people think the system requirements will be? Even better, what will the RECOMENDED system be? I am not concerned if I will be ably to run it, but more so if I will be able to run it well. I can run URU at a mix of medium and high settings. Myst 4 ran on full settings.
How do you think it will run on your system and what are your system's specs?

D.I.Y. system
ASUS A7N8X DELUXE
AMD 2200 + CPU over clocked to 2400 + (2GHz REAL clock)
512 MB PC3200 RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 over clocked PAST the 9800 PRO
12X DVD
CD-RW (Plextor Premium)
120GB HDD
SB Live! 5.1
5.1 Speaker setup
Windows XP Pro

NGW1031982
01-17-2005, 08:27 PM
What do people think the system requirements will be? Even better, what will the RECOMENDED system be? I am not concerned if I will be ably to run it, but more so if I will be able to run it well. I can run URU at a mix of medium and high settings. Myst 4 ran on full settings.
How do you think it will run on your system and what are your system's specs?

D.I.Y. system
ASUS A7N8X DELUXE
AMD 2200 + CPU over clocked to 2400 + (2GHz REAL clock)
512 MB PC3200 RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 over clocked PAST the 9800 PRO
12X DVD
CD-RW (Plextor Premium)
120GB HDD
SB Live! 5.1
5.1 Speaker setup
Windows XP Pro

Alahmnat
01-17-2005, 10:19 PM
Since the game is going to be using the same basic engine as Uru, I would say you should expect the requirements to remain the same or perhaps increase slightly for this game over what was required for Uru... it all depends on what they've done with the engine since Path of the Shell came out.

Obviously and unfortunately that doesn't help Mac folks out at all, but for those curious about PC minimum specs, it's a good starting point.

Vertigo3
01-18-2005, 07:48 AM
I think it will run fine on my system, but then again, pretty much any game out to date will...

P4 3Ghz
1024MB DDR400
GeForce 6800 Ultra
Audigy 2 ZS Pro
Dual-Layer DVD burner
DVD-Rom Drive
120 GB & 80 GB hard drives
Windows XP Home/Fedora Core 3 Dual boot
500 Watt 5.1 speaker setup

As to the system requirements, I agree that they will be around what they were for Uru, but judging by the texture quality on the screenshot, it may need a little bit more VRam on the vid card for full quality, but that is just my speculation.

tsrblke2
01-18-2005, 09:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Alahmnat:
Since the game is going to be using the same basic engine as Uru, I would say you should expect the requirements to remain the same or perhaps increase slightly for this game over what was required for Uru... it all depends on what they've done with the engine since Path of the Shell came out.

Obviously and unfortunately that doesn't help Mac folks out at all, but for those curious about PC minimum specs, it's a good starting point. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

IIRC, and I'm not a programmer, I'm more of a hardware specialist, URU's specs were slightly above the average for games running the PLASMA engine because of the original design for an online game. The extra power required to process the Online was worked in. I know that with the release of TPotS, they reworked the requirements, but I still think they played towards the cautious side.

Something I've done since they started releasing demos is download the Demo first, typically if it runs the game will run. The Uru demo ran on my computer fine (until that ATI bug was found that crashed everything to a blue screen of death! but it was fixed in a later release) Also keep an eye out on the fourms and the Lyst. As game time approaches we will all begin comparing our specs to see what works and what doesn't. It's kinda like sending the bravest in first. (I know that someone, whose name escapes me at this moment, had a nearly completely identical system to mine, except I had a larger graphics card, he already owned the game and told me it worked fine on his laptop so I went out and bought and it worked equally as fine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

Reverend Vader
01-18-2005, 10:16 AM
I wonder if they'll try to go for a similar set of requirements as PotS. It would make sense (financially) for them to have graphics compatibility with nVidia, Radeon, and then Intel Extreme video cards.

Though, Intel Extreme compatibility might interfere with their ability to make the game as realistic-looking as possible.

I know that they're going to want to raise the bar. They want to make the game more visually impressive in realtime 3D than Uru. And they also realize that they must compete (and possible attempt to outdo) the prerendered realism of Myst IV. (No small feat!)

I don't envy them their task.

To create what I know they WANT to create and still have it so it will run on most of our computer systems and remain commercially viable?

I'm glad I'm not them.

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Vertigo3
01-18-2005, 11:38 AM
I am a programmer and I program games as a hobby at home. Now I am only one person, but I have a little bit of an idea of how hard that is even for a team of people. But that is the name of the game, faster, better graphics, with enough optimization that it will run on the lower end systems. Although I can guarantee you will need a Graphics card with Hardware texture and lighting and by the looks of it at least 64 MB of ram on the video card.

And I want to see them outdo the prerendered graphics of Revelation in full 3d, then I want the source code...that would be quite a feat. Just remember, it is all in the textures...

james948
01-18-2005, 02:07 PM
but WILL IT WORK ON a MAC??????

they MUST Know this by now. WIll someone put a techspecs forum up here. They must know whether they're creating a hybrid game or a pc game.

anyone?

DebbieDec2003
01-18-2005, 02:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>but WILL IT WORK ON a MAC??????

they MUST Know this by now. They must know whether they're creating a hybrid game or a pc game.

anyone? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Go here http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ID=10717

and read the announcement okay? Then come back and tell us what you think. K? Thanks......
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Welcome to the forums. There is a section here called News and Announcements. There is a link to that article there also. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

james948
01-18-2005, 03:35 PM
Yes. I should have looked further. But I panicked. I was reading all about the URU engines on the forum. Someone said 'doesn't really look too good for mac users.'

Coronagold
01-18-2005, 08:28 PM
I'd just like to know, exactly what nVidea driver will it use? Uru runs great on one nV driver, Revelation runs better on an earlier nV driver.

Alahmnat
01-19-2005, 01:06 AM
nVIDIA's supposedly putting out another driver at some point that plays nicely with both http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Mowog
01-28-2005, 10:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> To create what I know they WANT to create and still have it so it will run on most of our computer systems and remain commercially viable?

I'm glad I'm not them.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I agree. They kind of pushed the envelope with Myst IV, what with shipping on DVD-ROMs and everything. And look at the uproar that caused, when folks using dated drives and drivers found it impossible to install the game. WHOLE lotta belly-aching. I was one who had to upgrade the firmware in my DVD drive before I could even play Myst IV. (Had to buy a new video card for Uru, new Mac for Riven, CD drive for Myst, etc.) So yeah, they need to push the technology to make a spectacular product, but at the same time, they know they're inviting all sorts of bad feelings from buyers whose equipment isn't up to the task.

NGW1031982
01-28-2005, 01:42 PM
Well, part of it depends on if it's a first or third person view. If it's first, I think the requirements will be a little higher then Myst 4. But, if it's third, they will be a little higher then URU. Just my opinion.

Now, I realize that the DVD-Rom thing caused a problem for people, but it did allow only 2 discs. If it was on CD, then it would have been on about 15 CD's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif Even though I already had a DVD-Rom, I would have HAPPLY gotten one just for the game.
I came up with 15 CD's using this equation:
1024MB = 1GB
1024 X 3.71 (Myst 4DVD 1) = 3799.04
1024 X 6.07 (Myst 4DVD 2) = 6215.68
Add together = 10014.72
Divide by 680 (680 per CD with head room for CD and file ID) = 14.7275294117...

Round up and you get 15. Now, with a game on that many CD's, the cost goes up for materials AND the box would be bigger to hold that many CD's safely. I don€t know about you, but the means the cost of the game goes up and it would cost more for a CD version.

Mr Zebe D
01-29-2005, 06:15 AM
Corona / Alahmnat, there are two nvidia driver versions that will run both URU and Revelation - 56.64 and 56.72. These are for GeForce 2 3 and 4 cards. (FX cards will take the latest drivers for both).

Mowog
01-29-2005, 10:11 AM
I'd like to verify Mr Zebe D's comments. I'm currently running my GeForce FX 5200 on the 56.72 drivers, and it handles both Uru and Myst IV just fine. The matching stereo drivers are enabling 3D play in Uru too.

As for the Myst IV DVD issue, I understand why they shipped on DVD and have no problem with that. And I'm tech-savvy enough that I had no problem with upgrading my firmware. That was really no big deal, and needed to be done anyway.

My only concern is that there are an awful lot of folks who probably just gave up and took Myst IV back to the store for a refund when faced with the same problem. Some of these people really vented on the forums, and it got ugly in places.

Hence my point, the tech market is a big, amorphous, moving target, and you can't please everybody!

Theo1728
01-30-2005, 09:42 PM
I have completed Myst, Riven, Exile & RealMyst, all of which I enjoyed immensely, but I have now reached the limit of what my year 2000 PIII 500 system can handle. It is essentially not upgradeable beyond 550 mHz. I know that I need to upgrade to run Uru Complete (which I got for Christmas), but I want to make sure that my new system is capable of running Myst IV & V as well. I have not worked in my field in four years. I am frustrated. My wife has been unemployed for two years. We are poor. The defensibility of the required upgrade diminishes daily. I am about to spend most of my annual entertainment budget on this project, and don't know when I'll be able to upgrade again. I wrote Ubisoft Tech Support for a guesstimate on SysReq's and they replied:

"...it sounds like you would like me to make an educated guess. With that said, I think if you have a Pentium 4 2.0ghz or higher, 512MB of system RAM, 20gb of HD space free and a GeForce FX 5600 or Radeon 9600 or higher the game will run just fine. Best of luck."

I would like other opinions on this. Right now I'm waiting for better resolution on this issue, but I won't even get to play Uru until I move up.

Thanks in advance, Theo.

Alahmnat
01-30-2005, 10:40 PM
I would say your safest bet would be to wait and see what the published specs will be... by then the equipement that Ubi quoted to you will likely have dropped in price as next-generation hardware comes out over the coming months, and you'll know for certain what you have to get to run End of Ages.

That said, I do think the system Ubi quoted you would run the game fine... you may want a larger hard drive if you have a lot of games and/or applications and files, but aside from that it's basically the system I have (1.4 GHz Athlon, 512 MB RAM, GeForce FX 5600), and I'm not expecting to have to upgrade either.

(I am fully prepared to eat my words on this one, but I don't think I'll have to unless someone at Cyan goes nuts with their polygon count and effects http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif)

NGW1031982
01-30-2005, 11:25 PM
Any one know where I can buy a copy of RealMyst.

Mowog
01-31-2005, 07:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I have not worked in my field in four years. I am frustrated. My wife has been unemployed for two years. We are poor. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Unfortunately, a lot of us have had to deal with this also. I found myself unemployed in 2001, which essentially put an end to a 23-year career. I did the job hunt unsuccessfully for 20 months, and finally took a job doing manual work to pass the time and make a buck or two until until getting back into my field (web design). And to be frank, although I did manage to get back into the tech field, I'm not designing... and am earning only a fraction of what I did before.

And yes, this certainly does affect where I can go with my PC hobby, not to mention my other interests. Fortunately I was able to upgrade my video card pretty reasonably, making Uru possible. But to take my trusty Sony VAIO beyond 384 MB of RAM is out of the question, because it uses RAMBUS memory that's ridiculously expensive.

Anyhow, best of luck. I know it's frustrating. Realize that there's another Myst fan out here that's been there and done that. Still doing that, really... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

iofthemourning
01-31-2005, 10:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NGW1031982:
Any one know where I can buy a copy of RealMyst. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Apple Store