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sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 08:06 AM
I'm seriously not just ranting here, but the title of this thread represents how I feel about both the moderator's attitude and the attitude of the company in general as it regards questions being asked about the iDevice version of this game. People are simply asking WHY there is no information. Look, we get it that you don't like it when your "power" as mods are questioned, but all people are looking for is a way to give Ubisoft their money. They are interested in a product. This product was announced with a decent amount of fanfare. Then...nothing. No word. How freaking hard would it be for someone to simply say where they are in the process? That's it. An answer. Not necessarily an exact date, since those obviously are arbitrary and don't mean anything in the case of this version of the game, but simply an answer on where it is now in development. Somebody knows the answer. Many people must know the answer. Just because you're sick of seeing threads about it, isn't going to stop people from wanting to know something. Your arrogant attitude is incredibly off-putting. I hope some people get a chance to read this before it's removed, because I know I speak for many who won't post since they don't want to get the ban hammer.

caswallawn_2k7
12-17-2009, 08:42 AM
90% of release problems on the Istore is down to apple and no body else, they have super strict rules and have stopped companies such as microsoft and google publishing items on the store, only to break their own rules with a apple made app.

apple control everything in their store and have actually made more rejections for app's than they have accepted.

if you have a problem with the game not coming out fast enough on the Istore take it up with apple as they are most likely the problem.

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 08:45 AM
a) If Apple was the problem we surely would have heard that by now.
b) Even if that was the case, (and it isn't), all I'm asking for is an ANSWER. If Apple is the problem, then I'm sure Ubisoft would be more than vocal about that.
c) Nothing you said addresses the main point of the post, which is not that the game isn't out soon enough, it's that the company seems unwilling to give ANY information about the change in release date.

caswallawn_2k7
12-17-2009, 08:48 AM
if the game is trying to get through the apple approval process there is nothing Ubi can tell you as it all comes down to apple for if and when it will be published.

this is the biggest problem with the Iphone/touch they run on a locked system so developers are stuck and cant even sneeze unless apple tell them it's ok.

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 08:51 AM
Again, you're wrong. If it's going through the Apple approval process then Ubi simply needs to say, "It's been submitted. It's out of our hands now". They haven't done that. They haven't said ANYTHING. It just shows incredible arrogance to not respond to simple questions about a game people want to PAY THEM FOR.

caswallawn_2k7
12-17-2009, 08:53 AM
or it shows you are one of the many people who believe apple can do no wrong despite using a system that locks the entire device to only be able to do what they say.

Captain Tomatoz
12-17-2009, 08:57 AM
i wish people would stop moaning about things and just accept that something isnt the way they want it to be. Its really annoying how people come on here and moan and groan all the time and just blame the wrong people. And even when they are proved wrong they still won't accept it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 08:59 AM
You're either not reading my posts, or just are not capable of understanding. Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum. Who's the fanboy? This isn't about Apple and their policies. Its about Ubisoft not answering inquiries. That's it.

caswallawn_2k7
12-17-2009, 09:01 AM
Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum.
and that just made your argument totally valid didn't it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Ubi can only answer and enquiry if they actually have informations to give. if the game is tied up in the system they have no information to give so they cant give any.

Captain Tomatoz
12-17-2009, 09:02 AM
Originally posted by sizzlakalonji:
You're either not reading my posts, or just are not capable of understanding. Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum. Who's the fanboy? This isn't about Apple and their policies. Its about Ubisoft not answering inquiries. That's it.

they don't need to answer to enquiries. it's not the law and you can't force them

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by Tony6593:
i wish people would stop moaning about things and just accept that something isnt the way they want it to be. Its really annoying how people come on here and moan and groan all the time and just blame the wrong people. And even when they are proved wrong they still won't accept it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

How has anyone been "proved wrong" about who's to blame? Show me some evidence. You can't. I don't see why Ubisoft fanboys get so upset with someone looking for a simple answer.

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum.
and that just made your argument totally valid didn't it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Ubi can only answer and enquiry if they actually have informations to give. if the game is tied up in the system they have no information to give so they cant give any. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If a game is "tied up in the system" (whatever that means), then that is in itself information. All they would have to do is say that. Here's what they've said so far...



nothing.

Captain Tomatoz
12-17-2009, 09:08 AM
you seem to be so angry at ubisoft and blaming them but when cas said that it could also be apples fault you wouldn't accept it. I'm not saying its apples fault. (for all i know it could be ubis fault http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif) im just saying that you shouldn't be so angry if you don't know the full picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by Tony6593:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sizzlakalonji:
You're either not reading my posts, or just are not capable of understanding. Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum. Who's the fanboy? This isn't about Apple and their policies. Its about Ubisoft not answering inquiries. That's it.

they don't need to answer to enquiries. it's not the law and you can't force them </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, they don't need to answer "enquiries" since there is no such thing. It would be nice, however, if they answered "inquiries" since they are coming from the people that pay their bills.

Captain Tomatoz
12-17-2009, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by sizzlakalonji:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tony6593:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sizzlakalonji:
You're either not reading my posts, or just are not capable of understanding. Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum. Who's the fanboy? This isn't about Apple and their policies. Its about Ubisoft not answering inquiries. That's it.

they don't need to answer to enquiries. it's not the law and you can't force them </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, they don't need to answer "enquiries" since there is no such thing. It would be nice, however, if they answered "inquiries" since they are coming from the people that pay their bills. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

sorry that i made a spelling mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

BTOG46
12-17-2009, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by Tony6593:
sorry that i made a spelling mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You didn't, both spellings are correct, it just depends on which part of the English speaking world you come from. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And having got that out of the way, I don't see a good end for this thread, given the way it started, and has rapidly gone downhill into name calling and nitpicking, it's not going to last much longer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

Captain Tomatoz
12-17-2009, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by BTOG46:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tony6593:
sorry that i made a spelling mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You didn't, both spellings are correct, it just depends on which part of the English speaking world you come from. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thanks, i just found out that i was right with my spelling http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ScytheOfGrim
12-17-2009, 09:27 AM
Originally posted by sizzlakalonji:
You're either not reading my posts, or just are not capable of understanding. Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum. Who's the fanboy? This isn't about Apple and their policies. Its about Ubisoft not answering inquiries. That's it.

If those were 13,000 quality posts, I would be on your side.

Too bad they aren't.

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by BTOG46:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tony6593:
sorry that i made a spelling mistake. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

You didn't, both spellings are correct, it just depends on which part of the English speaking world you come from. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

And having got that out of the way, I don't see a good end for this thread, given the way it started, and has rapidly gone downhill into name calling and nitpicking, it's not going to last much longer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I tried to keep things civil, but I stand by what I said...there have been no explainations of any kind whatsoever. The idea that nobody knows anything is patently absurd. There just seems to be this attitude of aloofness that I personally don't understand when the people that you are ignoring are the ones you owe your livelihood to. Apologies for the spelling comment-it wasn't necessary.

BTOG46
12-17-2009, 10:15 AM
As far as the Forum moderating staff are concerned, it isn't "aloofness" as you put it, but genuine lack of any real information.

Moderators do not work for Ubisoft, and as a result, have only limited access to information and higher levels at Ubisoft, so you can't really expect answers from them.

They do all they can behind the scenes to help, and get the Ubi staff to respond on the forums, but they can't pluck information out of thin air.

sizzlakalonji
12-17-2009, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by BTOG46:
As far as the Forum moderating staff are concerned, it isn't "aloofness" as you put it, but genuine lack of any real information.

Moderators do not work for Ubisoft, and as a result, have only limited access to information and higher levels at Ubisoft, so you can't really expect answers from them.

They do all they can behind the scenes to help, and get the Ubi staff to respond on the forums, but they can't pluck information out of thin air.

True enough, I was refering to Ubisoft when I referred to aloofness. But what prompted me to start this particular thread was reading another thread asking about this which was closed by a different mod who IMO had a pretty dismissive attitude.

kleaneasy
12-17-2009, 10:37 AM
sizzlakalonji if you or anyone else has concerns about the moderation of these boards you should contact myself or another forum manager in private topic. The forums are not the place for such discussions.

On the subject of the game release and information, I've been trying to get an answer on this to no avail, I'll see if I can chase the matter up but until then I would appreciate you voice your frustration in a more constructive manner http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

itsamea-mario
12-17-2009, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by caswallawn_2k7:
90% of release problems on the Istore is down to apple and no body else, they have super strict rules and have stopped companies such as microsoft and google publishing items on the store, only to break their own rules with a apple made app.

apple control everything in their store and have actually made more rejections for app's than they have accepted.

if you have a problem with the game not coming out fast enough on the Istore take it up with apple as they are most likely the problem.

'apple' its obvious, theyre templars, they dont want this game because its antitemplar, apple- apple of eden... :P

BTOG46
12-17-2009, 10:43 AM
@ sizzlakalonji

He closed your original thread, simply because the attitude of some of the posters in it had degenerated into pointless ranting, and had resulted in some members overstepping the line and getting banned.

And as several Ubi managers, including the overall Community Manager for the forums had already replied, saying information would be released when available, there was no point in keeping the thread open any longer, as all it was doing was attracting trolls and spammers.

That happens to most threads if they go downhill, or are duplicates of an existing one that could be used, the only reason I haven't closed this thread, is because there isn't currently an open one that posters could be redirected to use.

caswallawn_2k7
12-17-2009, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by ScytheOfGrim:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sizzlakalonji:
You're either not reading my posts, or just are not capable of understanding. Yor're accusing me of being a fanboy when you have 13,000 freaking posts on a Ubisoft forum. Who's the fanboy? This isn't about Apple and their policies. Its about Ubisoft not answering inquiries. That's it.

If those were 13,000 quality posts, I would be on your side.

Too bad they aren't. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
but they were quality crap http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

also I still hadn't noticed I had actually passed 12k http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Realjambo
12-17-2009, 02:16 PM
also I still hadn't noticed I had actually passed 12k

I recall the efforts we went to, to prevent you breaking the 10k mark. *Must.Try.Harder* http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

loveboof
12-18-2009, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Tony6593:
im just saying that you shouldn't be so angry if you don't know the full picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I believe the reason he's angry is exactly because he doesn't know the full picture.. thats his whole point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Personally I don't care either way

MrNussbaum
12-18-2009, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by loveboof:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Tony6593:
im just saying that you shouldn't be so angry if you don't know the full picture http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I believe the reason he's angry is exactly because he doesn't know the full picture.. thats his whole point http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Personally I don't care either way </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just can't believe he's getting so worked up over an iphone game.

HewieAlbino
12-18-2009, 11:28 AM
Well, if Ubisoft has indeed submitted this game to Apple and is waiting for approval, do you think they go around telling us, "Oh, it's with Apple now. If it's delayed go look for them, not us. kthxbye."?

Just be patient and wait. And dismissive? So far, it's one of the few game companies that actually listen to and interact with the fans. Do you think Assassin's Creed 2 would have made such a drastic improvement if Ubisoft gave us the deaf ear?

They've given us heaps load of info regarding AC2 before the release. If they are not telling us anything it's either they have nothing to comment or they can't for legal reasons. Just chillax and wait. And yes, I'm also waiting for it, but at this point ranting and raving about it is not going to do anything but get on people's nerves.

UbiGabe
12-18-2009, 11:32 AM
[points to HewieAlbino]
[points to nose]

<.<
>.>

DiamondBlade_R
12-18-2009, 12:00 PM
I just can't believe he's getting so worked up over an iphone game.
That can sum up the essence of this entire thread. Jesus, it's a freaking iphone game. Most people still consider those to be casual games. Getting so ****ed about such a game would pretty much make as much sense as getting ****ed over a game for (regular) cellphones.

EDIT: Woah, I didn't know that using the word I used would count as bypassing the curse filter. It was not at all that blatant.

ToKillInPeace
12-18-2009, 03:51 PM
Originally posted by BTOG46:
@ sizzlakalonji

He closed your original thread, simply because the attitude of some of the posters in it had degenerated into pointless ranting, and had resulted in some members overstepping the line and getting banned.

And as several Ubi managers, including the overall Community Manager for the forums had already replied, saying information would be released when available, there was no point in keeping the thread open any longer, as all it was doing was attracting trolls and spammers.

That happens to most threads if they go downhill, or are duplicates of an existing one that could be used, the only reason I haven't closed this thread, is because there isn't currently an open one that posters could be redirected to use.
BTOG, you're the ONLY moderator I like here.

The rest can go.

....

Except for Kleaneasy.

and Widow....

KZarr
12-18-2009, 04:27 PM
and Gypsy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ToKillInPeace
12-18-2009, 04:31 PM
YES.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Spidey146
12-23-2009, 08:43 PM
He's not the only one: 36 and a half pages of hundreds and hundreds of fans trying to figure out what the hell is going on, Ubisoft you have lost many, many people's money and trust http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif.

http://forums.toucharcade.com/...d.php?t=24857&page=7 (http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=24857&page=7)