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Maverick_U2007
11-09-2008, 05:05 AM
Today in the Uk is Rememberance Sunday...but we should remember why...

"It is the Soldier not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
who gives us freedom to demonstrate.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag
who serves beneath the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
who allows the protestor to burn the flag."

Just take time to reflect on it.

Maverick

Foehammer-1
11-09-2008, 06:08 AM
There's a parade here today, and my former cadets will be there. But Foe has to go to work right about now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Realjambo
11-09-2008, 06:40 AM
Well said, Maverick. I'll add my own if I may...

Young men, soldiers, Nineteen Fourteen
Marching through countries they'd never seen
Virgins with rifles, a game of charades
All for a Children's Crusade

Pawns in the game are not victims of chance
Strewn on the fields of Belgium and France
Poppies for young men, death's bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed

The children of England would never be slaves
They're trapped on the wire and dying in waves
The flower of England face down in the mud
And stained in the blood of a whole generation

Corpulent generals safe behind lines
History's lessons drowned in red wine
Poppies for young men, death's bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed
All for a Children's Crusade

The children of England would never be slaves
They're trapped on the wire and dying in waves
The flower of England face down in the mud
And stained in the blood of a whole generation

Midnight in Soho, Nineteen Eighty-four
Fixing in doorways, opium slaves
Poppies for young men, such bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed
All for a Children's Crusade

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/antsmith/Remembrance_Day_2007-2.jpg

Goose_Green
11-09-2008, 06:50 AM
I'll let my signature do the talking here, and the memorial found near Horse Guards Parade in London.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/RememberanceSundaySigcopy.jpg

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/IMG_1362.jpg

Celeon999
11-09-2008, 08:25 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/90/Soldatendenkmal_Lampertheim.jpg/800px-Soldatendenkmal_Lampertheim.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Winterbach-SWP.JPG/800px-Winterbach-SWP.JPG

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/0/0d/Kriegerdenkmal.jpg/800px-Kriegerdenkmal.jpg


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The Verdun memorial is the most impressing one of them all.

Seeing what its filled with says more than a thousand words

http://www.newpad.net/ossary%20at%20verdun.JPG



Its filled with the bones of 130.000 unidentified soldiers

All victims of one and the same battle and yet only the half of all that died.

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1447/1765620598c699d4f71ooo5.jpg


They can be seen through windows in the basement.

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8072/verdun4ossui3.jpg

Goose_Green
11-09-2008, 08:59 AM
Awesome pictures Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Thanks for sharing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
11-11-2008, 03:02 AM
As today is the 90th anniversary of the end of the great war that was supposed to end all others (also known as the initial catastrophy of the last century)...

...Celeon decides to post some pictures from his collection


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Before

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After

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Battle of Verdun

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Blinded by gas

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"Death factory" Verdun knew no pause for burials

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Manfred von Richthofen and Jasta-11

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British soldiers on the attack

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Bad tank design

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Better tank design

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No man's land of Verdun

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British soldier with a pure hightech invention, a gasmask

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Rare color photos


French soldiers in their trench

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French Nurses

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French Marines

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Soldiers from the french colonies

Vietnamese

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African

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Australian soldiers

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More if like http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

pmh273
11-11-2008, 05:36 AM
Incredible photos Celeon, on this special day of rememberance. More? Yes please! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Celeon999
11-11-2008, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by pmh273:
Incredible photos Celeon, on this special day of rememberance. More? Yes please! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Okey Dokey http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif



Trophy pile of german artillery. Taken after the end of the war


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A road checkpoint


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Destruction


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A Nieuport 17. It was renowned for loosing its lower pair of wings (which always ended in a crash) when exposed to too high g-force.

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A french general. Anybody got a clue who he was ?

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More pics ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Navelintel
11-11-2008, 09:04 AM
A french general. Anybody got a clue who he was ?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6222/sap01ca000700ppz0.jpg


More pics ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I believe this is a photograph of Ferdinand Foch, the French General who was given overall control of the Allied forces in March 1918, serving as Allied Supreme Commander, in which role he frequently conflicted with General John Joseph 'Black Jack' Pershing (USA) over the disposition of U.S. forces.

Thanks for sharing your outstanding photographic archive as well. Today, we all share a Day of Remembrance! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Realjambo
11-11-2008, 12:44 PM
Excellent photo's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif Don't hold back - let's see them all.

Celeon999
11-11-2008, 01:38 PM
Thanks for the clarification Navelintel http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif



Ok here are more pics


A original leather-metal chain mask like tank gunners on all sides wore.

It protected their faces against metal splinters coming out of their machineguns.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/723/14kfsmaskfrontbz7.jpg


A diagram of the interior of a german A7V tank. Notice the masks and protective leather clothing.


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A A7V with soldiers riding on its back

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A tank hunter squad tries to attack a british tank from the rear. They will try to attach mines to the tank's hull and tracks.

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Another captured british mark IV tank. They were much better than the german A7V so it was tried to capture them whenever possible.

The huge iron crosses prevent friendly fire.

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A russian amored machinegun car

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And a austrian one

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A mobile AA gun


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American mini tanks


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Private Adolf Hitler marked with the cross

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And another one of him (on the right)

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Goose_Green
11-12-2008, 07:54 AM
Excellent pictures Celeon http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Back to the present day, two photographs taken from the Cenotaph in Whitehall.

The three surviving veterans from WWI (in wheelchairs), L-R: Henry Allingham, assisted by Flight Lieutenant Michelle Goodman DFC [Distinguished Flying Cross](on Henry's left), Harry Patch, assisted by Lance Corporal Johnson Beharry VC [Victoria Cross](on Harry's right), and Bill Stone, assisted by Marine Mkhuseli Jones MC [Military Cross] (on Bill's right)

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/Vets.jpg

The service at the Cenotaph in London on the 90th Anniversary of the end of WWI

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n235/Goose_Green/Armistice.jpg

Celeon999
11-12-2008, 02:24 PM
Talking about the Great war with my dad today, Celeon learned that his great-grandfather father's side was a soldier in the Kolonial Schutztruppe in our African colonies.

Unlike what Celeon believed so far, he survived the war and was among the 1300 men (2500 before the war) remaining who surrendered on 25.November 1918 in the city of Abercorn (Today Mbala) in Northern Zambia when they were finally informed about the cease fire by british diplomats.

The last german unit to surrender at the end of WW1 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Among battles in several African countries ,he fought against "ze Engländer" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif in the battle of Tanga in Tanzania in 1914.

Although the british colonial forces were vastly numerical superior , they were defeated.

1.100 german colonial and african Askari soldiers on the german side against 8000 indian reservists and british colonial soldiers on the british side.

The battle ended with 61 casualties and 81 woundeds on the german side and 800 casualties and 487 wounded on the british side.


Thats what they looked like

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/S%C3%BCdwest-Afrika.png

f14driver
11-13-2008, 06:43 AM
I got this in an email the other day and I thought I'd share it.

Her hair was up in a pony tail, her favourite dress tied with a bow.
Today was Daddy's Day at school, and she couldn't wait to go.
But her mummy tried to tell her, that she probably should stay home.
Why the kids might not understand, if she went to school alone.
But she was not afraid; she knew just what to say.
What to tell her classmates of why he wasn't there today.
But still her mother worried, for her to face this day alone.
And that was why once again, she tried to keep her daughter home.
But the little girl went to school eager to tell them all.
About a dad she never sees, a dad who never calls.

There were daddies along the back wall, for everyone to meet
Children squirming impatiently, anxious in their seats
One by one the teacher called a student from the class.
To introduce their daddy, as seconds slowly passed.
At last the teacher called her name, every child turned to stare.
Each of them was searching, for a man who wasn't there.
'Where's her daddy at?' She heard a boy call out.
'She probably doesn't have one,' another student dared to shout
And from somewhere near the back, she heard a daddy say,
'Looks like another deadbeat dad, too busy to waste his day.'
The words did not offend her, as she smiled up at her Mum.
And looked back at her teacher, who told her to go on.



And with hands behind her back, slowly she began to speak.
And out from the mouth of a child, came words incredibly unique.

'My Daddy couldn't be here, because he lives so far away.
But I know he wishes he could be, since this is such a special day.
And though you cannot meet him, I wanted you to know.
All about my daddy, and how much he loves me so.
He loved to tell me stories he taught me to ride my bike.
He surprised me with pink roses, and taught me to fly a kite.
We used to share fudge sundaes, and ice cream in a cone.



And though you cannot see him. I'm not standing here alone.
'Cause my daddy's always with me, even though we are apart



I know because he told me, he'll forever be in my heart' With that, her little hand reached up, and lay across her chest.
Feeling her own heartbeat, beneath her favourite dress.



And from some where in the crowd of dads, her mother stood in tears.
Proudly watching her daughter, who was wise beyond her years.
For she stood up for the love of a man not in her life.
Doing what was best for her, doing what was right.
And when she dropped her hand back down, staring straight into the crowd.

She finished with a voice so soft, but its message clear and loud.
'I love my daddy very much, he's my shining star. And if he could, he'd be here, but heaven's just too far.



You see he is a soldier And died just this past year
When a roadside bomb hit his convoy and taught brave men to fear.
But sometimes when I close my eyes, it's like he never went away.'
And then she closed her eyes, and saw him there that day.
And to her mother's amazement, she witnessed with surprise.
A room full of daddies and children, all starting to close their eyes.
Who knows what they saw before them, who knows what they felt inside.

Perhaps for merely a second, they saw him at her side.
'I know you're with me Daddy,' to the silence she called out.
And what happened next made believers, of those once filled with doubt.
Not one in that room could explain it, for each of their eyes had been closed.
But there on the desk beside her, was a fragrant long-stemmed pink rose.
And a child was blessed, if only for a moment, by the love of her shining star.

VikingGrandad
11-15-2008, 03:29 PM
That's a beautifully written poem Tom http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Do you know who wrote it?

------------

In related news:

Bomber Command memorial: Westminster agrees to provide central London site (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/rafbombercommand/3280708/Bomber-Command-memorial-Westminster-agrees-to-provide-central-London-site.html)

At long last, it seems the UK's public perception of WW2 Bomber Command is starting to change.

A memorial to Bomber Command is not a celebration of the bombing war and its awful consequences, but a means of remembering the staggering 55% loss rate the 'bomber boys' suffered - particularly in the darkest days of WW2 when Bomber Command was the only significant force taking the fight directly to the enemy.

Goose_Green
11-15-2008, 08:50 PM
I have just found an interesting article on the UK's MoD news website and I thought it would be best placed in this thread since we are discussing the recent Rememberance Day and Armistice Day events.

Germany v England 1914 football rematch (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/HistoryAndHonour/GermanyVEngland1914FootballRematch.htm)

f14driver
11-16-2008, 01:17 AM
Hi VikingGrandad,

I dunno who wrote this poem.

I got it in the mail from a friend who's recieved it in his mail as well.

It still gives me goosebumps everytime I read it.
I got my own daughter , have been a professional soldier and can relate very well to that story.

Celeon999
11-16-2008, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by Goose_Green:
I have just found an interesting article on the UK's MoD news website and I thought it would be best placed in this thread since we are discussing the recent Rememberance Day and Armistice Day events.

Germany v England 1914 football rematch (http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/DefenceNews/HistoryAndHonour/GermanyVEngland1914FootballRematch.htm)



Excellent find Goose http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


371th from Marienberg ! Celeon knew some of them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


But back in Celeon's days they called themselves 371th Jäger (although they were Panzergrenadiers) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

I wonder what they did to have their name changed ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

What do they try to hide... or from who do they hide ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Well, it only matters that they won that football game , just like their ancestors did in 1914 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VikingGrandad
11-16-2008, 04:32 AM
Great article Goose. It's such a wonderful story of human kindness in the most adverse circumstances.

I notice Captain Stockwell said...

"As we had lots of plum puddings I sent for one and formally presented it to him in exchange for the beer."
Sounds like a good swap, one pudding for a whole cask of beer! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

VikingGrandad
11-17-2008, 03:38 PM
Bomber Command memorial appeal passes £500,000 mark (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/3467536/Bomber-Command-memorial-appeal-passes-500000-mark.html)

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klcarroll
11-17-2008, 04:21 PM
@Tom van der Horst;

It takes a lot to bring tears to these old eyes..........

Thank you for your poignant post!

It makes me think yet again of all the friends I have left behind; .....And all those who miss them.

klcarroll

Celeon999
11-18-2008, 05:01 AM
Just found this on the german navy website :


On the occasion of the 90th anniversary of the 1918 cease-fire agreement, Konteradmiral Axel Schimpf of the german navy recieved the french Medal for Merit from the french military-attachee Generalmajor Bruno Pinget and the french ambassador to Berlin, Claude Martin.

Additionally he was awared the honour rank of "Commandeur dans l'Ordre National du Mérite".

The medal and rank awarded by decree of president Nicolas Sarkozy, honors Konteradmiral Schimpf's important role in German-French military cooperation and friendship.


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f14driver
11-18-2008, 01:29 PM
klcarroll,

You're most welcome.

As I said, I didn't write the poem myself.
I got it in the mail from a friend and yes it does make you think of all the ones you've left behind indeed.

It gives me the shivers each and every time I read it.