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tonedog2005
12-21-2005, 03:47 AM
can u change planes during the campaigns when they become available?

XyZspineZyX
12-21-2005, 07:21 AM
No your plane selection must be made before the campaign is generated by DGEN

tonedog2005
12-21-2005, 07:54 AM
have to say everything ive heard and seen about this game has been great but this is the 1st bad thing ive heard. being stuck the same plane for the whole campaign aint very realistic or fun.

so how long do dynamic or scripted campaigns last then? are they over a course of weeks, months or years? if i start a campaign in say 39 how does the game handle planes becoming available later on in the war/campaign for me and for the AI?

alfa_fsb
12-21-2005, 08:37 AM
No no no .... you got it wrong.
When you started the campaign ... you had the choice of picking the aircraft for the respective campaign for example i chosed the i-16 fot the Smolensk '41 campaign and the MiG-3 for the Moscow '41.
So before starting a dinamic campaign choose the planes you want.

tonedog2005
12-21-2005, 09:02 AM
so a dynamic campaign is actualy lots of mini campaigns that are linked? when 1 campaign finishes u choose a different plane and start the next but keep your kill score etc?

dazza9806482
12-21-2005, 09:16 AM
Correct. Took me a while to work that out, but say you start as a Russian in 1939, there are then a series of campaigns right up to 1945 and you can select your prefered plane for each.

also if your finding the campaigns a bit too long you can go into the conf.ini and shorten them a bit. The longest setting is absolutely tons of missions. your stuck with the plane until next campaign.

what you also might want to do is head over the airwarfare.com and download some user made campaigns. These are infinitely better than the generated ones.

recommend VVS fighter part 1 by Enforcer, When Tigers could fly by Chuck Older, and anything by extreme one, hot space/ bird brain, and any of the HH guys. (loads more too!)

all quality and interesting plane choices, and short enough that you dont get sick of the planes.

finally theres a few utilities to customise your campaigns. Check out Lowengrins DCG, allows u to generate campaigns and alter all kinds of parameters.

i warn u, the standard il2 campaigns are rubbish and dont do the game any favours, being repetative bland and often pointless.

any help let me know. on changing conf.ini for example. in work just now so dont have all the stuff i need

foxyboy1964
12-21-2005, 09:20 AM
A pilot career consists of "mini" campaigns, all of them contribute to your total kills at the end of the war. To choose your aircraft, start your career with the plane of your choice, select generate and DGen provides a full career. Now exit the game and go to (on your desktop) Start>my computer>local disk C>programme files>ubi soft>il2 sturm>missions>campaign>DE or UK or US whichever nation you are playing as>dgen>conf.dat
In the conf.dat you can enter the names of the aircraft that you want to fly. You MUST enter the proper codes for FLYABLE aircraft ONLY. There are lists of the codes throughout the forum but I can never get the search function to work. Which planes are you interested in? For example, the FW190 A5 is written as FW_190A5 another would be Bf_109G2.

LT.INSTG8R
12-21-2005, 09:23 AM
I know I had started a Campaign with an F4U and ended up in an F6F but I didnt do anything, was kinda interesting switching AC but it did miss my F4U

money_money
12-21-2005, 09:26 AM
I am fairly sure U can change planes mid campaign, search and you should find an answer. One thing I know you can do is change the plane that is coming in the next stage/map of the campaign before it starts. So if the next plane in the campaign is going to be a 109g14, you can change the plane in the missions conf file to say, a 109g10. but you must do this before the next stage of the campaign begins. the location of that file is IL2/MISSIONS/CAMPAIGN/DE(or what country u r flying/DGen_N_Leningrad41money0(name of your campaign/CONF open in notepad.

*too slow*

<3 $

Kuna15
12-21-2005, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by tonedog2005:
can u change planes during the campaigns when they become available?

Yes you can. At any point of the game.


This can be done by editing either; conf.dat or status.dat

If you edit status.dat you will shift to your new plane from next mission, and if you edit your conf.dat you will shift to your plane of choice on the beggining of the next subcampaign.
Be carefull; backup your missions and users folder within main IL-2 folder. These contained all neccesary info about your settings and campaigns etc. you do not want to mess that up do you? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Here's how this is done.

This is status.dat file:

31001
Kubanlate43
30930.mis oDePatrolTown 79945.00 121056.00
<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span>
II_JG5_2
4 0
9
178
Kuna,1918
1 34BAP000 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP001 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP002 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP010 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP011 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP012 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP020 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP021 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP022 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 161IAP000 P_40M None,None
1 161IAP001 P_40M None,None
1 161IAP002 P_40M None,None
1 161IAP003 P_40M None,None
1 120IAP000 LA_5F None,None
1 120IAP001 LA_5F None,None
1 120IAP002 LA_5F None,None
1 120IAP003 LA_5F None,None
2 II_JG5_2000 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Wenzl,Hartmut
2 II_JG5_2001 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Bahlsen,Helmut
2 II_JG5_2002 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Kaufmann,Lothar
2 II_JG5_2003 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Probst,Dieter
2 II_JG5_2010 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Kuna
2 II_JG5_2011 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Keller,Konrad
2 II_JG5_2012 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Woll,Otto
2 II_JG5_2013 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G6</span> Scherf,Heinz
2 III_JG5_2000 BF_109G2 None,None
2 III_JG5_2001 BF_109G2 None,None
2 III_JG5_2002 BF_109G2 None,None
2 III_JG5_2003 BF_109G2 None,None
2 g01000 BF_109G2 None,None
2 g01010 BF_109G2 None,None
2 g01011 BF_109G2 None,None

just edit planes from your flight and the type of plane on top. I currently fly on Bf-109G (yellow marked). OK if I want Fw190A4 (edit marked red), then my status.dat would look like

31001
Kubanlate43
30930.mis oDePatrolTown 79945.00 121056.00
<span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span>
II_JG5_2
4 0
9
178
Kuna,1918
1 34BAP000 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP001 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP002 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP010 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP011 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP012 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP020 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP021 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 34BAP022 PE_2SERIES110 None,None
1 161IAP000 P_40M None,None
1 161IAP001 P_40M None,None
1 161IAP002 P_40M None,None
1 161IAP003 P_40M None,None
1 120IAP000 LA_5F None,None
1 120IAP001 LA_5F None,None
1 120IAP002 LA_5F None,None
1 120IAP003 LA_5F None,None
2 II_JG5_2000 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Wenzl,Hartmut
2 II_JG5_2001 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Bahlsen,Helmut
2 II_JG5_2002 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Kaufmann,Lothar
2 II_JG5_2003 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Probst,Dieter
2 II_JG5_2010 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Kuna
2 II_JG5_2011 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Keller,Konrad
2 II_JG5_2012 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Woll,Otto
2 II_JG5_2013 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span> Scherf,Heinz
2 III_JG5_2000 BF_109G2 None,None
2 III_JG5_2001 BF_109G2 None,None
2 III_JG5_2002 BF_109G2 None,None
2 III_JG5_2003 BF_109G2 None,None
2 g01000 BF_109G2 None,None
2 g01010 BF_109G2 None,None
2 g01011 BF_109G2 None,None

And that's it. From next flight I'm on Fw190. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If you however want to change plane from next subcampaign you can do that by editing your conf.dat
It should look like

Kuna,1918
II_JG5_2
dir=missions\campaign\de\DGen_F_Crimea41doe0
Language=English
instant=false
Crimea41 BF_109F2
Crimea42 BF_109F4
Kuban42 <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BF_109G2</span>
Stalingrad BF_109G2
Stalingrad2 BF_109G2
Kuban43 BF_109G2
Prokhorovka BF_109G6
Kubanlate43 BF_109G6
Crimea44 BF_109G6
Lvov44 BF_109G6Late
Balaton BF_109G10

And say you're on subcampiagn Crimea42. When you went from Crimea42 to Kuban42, you want to fly Fw-190A-4. Then you simply edit

Kuna,1918
II_JG5_2
dir=missions\campaign\de\DGen_F_Crimea41doe0
Language=English
instant=false
Crimea41 BF_109F2
Crimea42 BF_109F4
Kuban42 <span class="ev_code_RED">FW_190A4</span>
Stalingrad BF_109G2
Stalingrad2 BF_109G2
Kuban43 BF_109G2
Prokhorovka BF_109G6
Kubanlate43 BF_109G6
Crimea44 BF_109G6
Lvov44 BF_109G6Late
Balaton BF_109G10

And that's it. When you switch to Kuban subcampaign you're on Fw-190A-4.

Take note that it isn't possible to fly all available planes this way..
Oh yes, here are plane codes:

<span class="ev_code_RED">Red Planeset</span>
B_17G
B_25C25
B_25G1
B_25H1
B_25J1
BI_1
C_47
G_11
HurricaneMkIIb
HurricaneMkIIc
HurricaneMkIIbMod
I_153_M62
I_153P
I_16TYPE18
I_16TYPE24
I_16TYPE24DRONE
IL_2_1940Early
IL_2_1940Late
IL_2_1941Early
IL_2_1941Late
IL_2I
IL_2MEarly
IL_2MLate
IL_2Type3
IL_2Type3M
Il-2_M3
IL_2T
IL_4_DB3B
IL_4_DB3M
IL_4_DB3T
IL_4_DB3F
IL_4_IL4
LA_5
LA_5F
LA_5FN
LA_7
LA_7B20
LAGG_3SERIES4
LAGG_3SERIES29
LAGG_3SERIES35
LAGG_3SERIES66
LAGG_3IT
LI_2
MBR_2AM34
MIG_3EARLY
MIG_3SHVAK
MIG_3AM38
MIG_3U
MIG_3UB
MIG_3UD
P_36A3
P_36A4
P_38J
P_38L
P_39N
P_39Q1
P_39Q10
P_40E
P_40EM105
P_40M
P_47D10
P_47D22
P_47D27
P_51B
P_51C
P_51D5NT
P_51D20NA
P_63C
P_80APBN1
PE_2SERIES1
PE_2SERIES84
PE_2SERIES110
PE_2SERIES359
PE_3SERIES1
PE_3BIS
PE_8
R_10
SB_2M100A
SB_2M103
SPITFIRE5B
SPITFIRE5BCLP
SPITFIRE5BLF
SPITFIRE5BLFCLP
SPITFIRE9C
SPITFIRE9CCLP
SPITFIRE9E
SPITFIRE9ECLP
SPITFIRE9EHF
SU_2
TB_3_4M_17
TB_3_4M_34R
TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
TU_2S
U_2VS
YAK_1
YAK_1B
YAK_3
YAK_3P
YAK_7A
YAK_7B
YAK_9
YAK_9B
YAK_9D
YAK_9K
YAK_9M
YAK_9T
YAK_9U
YAK_9UT

<span class="ev_code_BLUE">Blue Planeset</span>
A6M2
A6M5A
AR_196A3
BF_109E4
BF_109E4B
BF_109E7
BF_109E7NZ
BF_109F2
BF_109F4
BF_109G2
BF_109G6
BF_109G6Late
BF_109G6AS
BF_109G10
BF_109G14
BF_109K4
BF_109Z
BF_110C4
BF_110C4B
BF_110G2
BLENHEIM1
BLENHEIM4
CR_42
F2A_B239
FI_156
FW_189A2
FW_190A4
FW_190A5
FW_190A6
FW_190A8
FW_190A8MSTL
FW_190A9
FW_190D9
FW_190D9LATE
FW_190F8
TA_152H1
FW_200C3U4
G50
GLADIATOR1
GLADIATOR1J8A
GLADIATOR2
GO_229A1 (bugged; game recognizes it as a red plane)
HE_111H2
HE_111H6
HE_111Z
HE_162A2
HS_129B2
HS_129B3Wa
HurricaneMkIa
IAR_80
IAR_81A
IAR_80C
JU_52_3MG4E
JU_52_3MG5E
JU_87B2
JU_87D3
JU_87D5
JU_87G1
JU_88A4
JU_88MSTL
KI_84_IA
KI_84_IB
KI_84_IC
MC_202
ME_163B1A
ME_210CA1
ME_210CA1ZSTR
ME_262A1A
ME_262A1AU4
ME_262A2A
ME_321
ME_323
MS406
MS410
MSMORKO
P_11C

XyZspineZyX
12-21-2005, 09:35 AM
Thats cheeky Kuna, didnt know you could do that!

foxyboy1964
12-21-2005, 09:36 AM
Your in luck Tonedog, Kuna is the man for this sort of stuff and hes helped me several times. His advice is solid.

tonedog2005
12-21-2005, 09:37 AM
cant wait to get flyin. how bout advice on buyin addon. matrixgames.com are sellin THE LAST DAYS which look good and offer dynamic campaigns. ive counted about 10 addons so far. what ones are worth the money?

in regards to lowenfrins DCG the website says the campaign is fully dynamic with ships sailin about, also your success can affect the campaign etc. it looks fantastic but does it run ok? does anyone here use it?

cheers

Kuna15
12-21-2005, 09:41 AM
@ dasriech no prob. Just be carefull. I always back up my campaign prior to making some changes and regularly after every 10th mission. So I'm always up-to-date if anything goes wrong http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

You shouldn't have problems if you do exactly like in the topic above; however I didn't tested all planes in every possible scenario.
Once when campaign files went wrong it is hard to fix them (it is possible but not easy).

You can even change plane assignments (for instance F2A is a pure fighter but you can assign it to JaBO, so you get almost exclusively GAttack missions). Also you can change default plane skin on specific map... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Kuna15
12-21-2005, 09:51 AM
And yes those are not complete plane codes (those are from older FB version). If you want newest plane codes visit
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m...881079473#9881079473 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8671097473/r/9881079473#9881079473)

Xiolablu3
12-21-2005, 12:16 PM
Download and try Lowengrins DCG generator, it blows the ingame DCG away.

His DCG has the real feeling of a war going off with around 60 planes all flying around the map in squadrons, and its truly dynamic, the front moves depending on how your squadron does in the battles.

http://www.lowengrin.com/download.php?list.3

Just follow the install instructions and then in game choose the side you want to play, say Germany, and then pick DCG rather than the normal In game selections.

Xiolablu3
12-21-2005, 12:18 PM
Also, I am sure in the 'normal' FB campaigns I was upgraded with a later 109 to the one I had.

I remember it saying 'Today your new planes have arrived...'

Rememeber , you can always have multiple campaigns running, not just one. I like to swap around from flying 190's for a few missions, then maybe a P51, then a Spit and so on.

mortoma
12-21-2005, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by Kuna15:
And yes those are not complete plane codes (those are from older FB version). If you want newest plane codes visit
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m...881079473#9881079473 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/8671097473/r/9881079473#9881079473)
Kuna, even that list is not quite complete but missing a couple of aircraft. Here's a link to my thread where I thoroughly explain all sorts of edits you can make to your campaigns, including changing planes in mid campaign and also my latest planecode list which is complete and updated.
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m...371057073#2371057073 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/26310365/m/2371057073/r/2371057073#2371057073)
Heck, I'll just post the list here::



(FLYABLE RED PLANES )
A_20G
B_25J1
BEAU21
BI_1
F2A2
F2A_B339
F4F3
F4F4
F4F_FM2
F4U1A
F4U1C
F4U1D
F4UCORSAIR1
F4UCORSAIR2
F4UCORSAIR4
F6F3
F6F5
HurricaneMkIIb
HurricaneMkIIc
HurricaneMkIIbMod
I_153_M62
I_153P
I_16TYPE18
I_16TYPE24
I_16TYPE24DRONE
I_185M71
I_185M82A
IL_2_1940Early
IL_2_1940Late
IL_2_1941Early
IL_2_1941Late
IL_2I
IL_2MEarly
IL_2MLate
IL_2Type3
IL_2Type3M
IL_2T
LA_5
LA_5F
LA_5FN
LA_7
LA_7B20
LAGG_3SERIES4
LAGG_3SERIES29
LAGG_3SERIES35
LAGG_3SERIES66
LAGG_3IT
MIG_3EARLY
MIG_3SHVAK
MIG_3AM38
MIG_3U
MIG_3UB
MIG_3UD
P_38J
P_38L
P_38LLate
P_39D1
P_39D2
P_39N
P_39Q1
P_39Q10
P_400
P_40E
P_40EM105
P_40M
P_40SUKAISVOLOCHHAWKA2 ( Hawk-81A2 )
P_40SUKAISVOLOCHB ( P-40B )
P_40SUKAISVOLOCHC ( P-40C )
P_40SUKAISVOLOCH2A ( Kittyhawk Mk. IIa )
P_40SUKAISVOLOCH2B ( Kittyhawk Mk. IIb )
P_47D
P_47D10
P_47D22
P_47D27
P_51B
P_51C
P_51CM
P_51D5NT
P_51D20NA
P_63C
P_80A
SBD3
SBD5
SEAFIRE3
SEAFIRE3F
SPITFIRE5B
SPITFIRE5C2
SPITFIRE5C4
SPITFIRE5BCLP
SPITFIRE5BLF
SPITFIRE5BLFCLP
SPITFIRE8
SPITFIRE8CLP
SPITFIRE9C
SPITFIRE9CCLP
SPITFIRE9E
SPITFIRE9ECLP
SPITFIRE9EHF
TB_3_4M_17
TB_3_4M_34R
TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
YAK_1
YAK_1B
YAK_3
YAK_3P
YAK_7A
YAK_7B
YAK_7BPF
YAK_9
YAK_9B
YAK_9D
YAK_9K
YAK_9M
YAK_9T
YAK_9U
YAK_9UT

(AI ONLY RED PLANES)
B_17D
B_17E
B_17F
B_17G
B_24J100
B_25C25
B_25G1
B_25H1
B_29
BLENHEIM4
C_47
G_11
IL_4_DB3B
IL_4_DB3M
IL_4_DB3T
IL_4_DB3F
IL_4_IL4
LI_2
MBR_2AM34
PBN1
PE_2SERIES1
PE_2SERIES84
PE_2SERIES110
PE_2SERIES359
PE_3SERIES1
PE_3BIS
PE_8
R_10
SB_2M100A
SB_2M103
SU_2
TBF1
TBF1C
TBM3
TBM3AVENGER3
TEMPEST5
TU_2S
U_2VS

(FLYABLE BLUE PLANES )
A6M2
A6M2_21
A6M2_N
A6M3
A6M5
A6M5A
A6M5B
A6M5C
A6M7_62
A6M7_63
BF_109E4
BF_109E4B
BF_109E7
BF_109E7NZ
BF_109F2
BF_109F4
BF_109G2
BF_109G6
BF_109G6Late
BF_109G6AS
BF_109G10
BF_109G14
BF_109K4
BF_109Z
BF_110G2
CR_42
D3A1
F2A_B239
FW_190A4
FW_190A5
FW_190A6
FW_190A8
FW_190A8MSTL
FW_190A9
FW_190D9
FW_190D9LATE
FW_190F8
TA_152H1
G50
GLADIATOR1J8A
G4M1_11
GO_229A1
HE_111H2
HE_111H6
HE_162A2
HurricaneMkIa
IAR_80
IAR_81A
IAR_80C
JU_87B2
JU_87D3
JU_87D5
JU_87G1
KI_43_IA
KI_43_IB
KI_43_IC
KI_61_IKO
KI_61_IHEI
KI_61_IOTSU
KI_84_IA
KI_84_IB
KI_84_IC
KI_100_IKO
ME_163B1A
ME_262A1A
ME_262A1AU4
ME_262A2A
P_11C

(AI ONLY BLUE PLANES )
AR_196A3
B5N2
BF_110C4
BF_110C4B
BLENHEIM1
FI_156
FW_189A2
FW_200C3U4
GLADIATOR1
GLADIATOR2
G4M2E
H8K1
HE_111Z
HS_129B2
HS_129B3Wa
J2M3
JU_52_3MG4E
JU_52_3MG5E
JU_88A4
JU_88MSTL
KI_43_II
KI_43_IIKAI
KI_46_OTSU
KI_46_RECCE
KI_46_OTSUHEI
L2D
ME_210CA1
ME_210CA1ZSTR
ME_321
ME_323
MC_202
MS406
MS410
MSMORKO
MXY_7
N1K1J
N1K1JA
P_36A3
P_36A4

tagTaken2
12-21-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Kuna15:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tonedog2005:
GO_229A1 (bugged; game recognizes it as a red plane)

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay... A while ago I tried to make this the plane for last days of berlin... every time I launched the campaign, game crashed so hard it needed a cold boot.

Pity.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

Kuna15
12-21-2005, 07:20 PM
@ mortoma yeah we need to update that list often http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.
@ tT2 I didn't checked (bug is really old) maybe it is fixed by now (402)? If not, perhaps the question should be raised in bug reporting thread...

mortoma
12-21-2005, 07:39 PM
Hey guys, I just edited the planesDEC.dat file the other day and I put in the Go_229A1 and it works in version 4.02m!! I have been flying it in a campaign and have six victories in only my first two missions!! Works great, weird to take off and have yet to learn to land it without boucing a bit but it does work in the German campaign now. A nice "what if" scenario. Although I think it might be over-modeled. But who really knows, Oleg had to guess it's performance mostly........

tagTaken2
12-21-2005, 08:10 PM
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Although I think it might be over-modeled. QUOTE]

Maybe. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

That's good news, might replace my current Dora with it. Just for a change, you understand.