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Waldo.Pepper
03-10-2005, 01:56 PM
Well it is flight related.

http://www.rexresearch.com/grebenn/grebenn.htm

Waldo.Pepper
03-10-2005, 01:56 PM
Well it is flight related.

http://www.rexresearch.com/grebenn/grebenn.htm

EyeoftheChicken
03-10-2005, 02:23 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Finally, something of interest to read in the forums.

Saunders1953
03-10-2005, 02:31 PM
Time to get out my tinfoil hat again.

DD_NL
03-10-2005, 02:55 PM
Yeah, and my real name is ATZI. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Chuck_Older
03-10-2005, 03:39 PM
Isn't this the cat that even Erich von Daaniken considers a loon?



~edit
stupid typo

LBR_Barkhorn
03-10-2005, 04:16 PM
Marijuana effects? Or just low-quality Vodka? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

NTESLA
03-10-2005, 05:13 PM
The flying pogo stick! But it is interesting...that the Soviets never had this before their fall, ummm...could have turn the tide to their favor. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EnGaurde
03-10-2005, 05:59 PM
has all the hallmarks...

reasons for no photgraphic proof

wonderfully intricate story

eccentric loner scientist

fantastical storyline.

pfft.

to think there will be people who read this, that actually tihnk its possible.

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Bluedog72
03-10-2005, 08:10 PM
Though I agree it is dubious at best, how can you just write it off as lunacy?
How much do you know about insects? how much do you know about what goes on inside one, what makes it 'tick'?
I would hazard a guess that it is about the same as the rest of us know about it, that is, next to nil.
Some people used to sprout off about how the world had no end, that it was actually a sphere, they were laughed at and shunned, as anybody could clearly see that the world was basically flat.

BTW, just how does a bee keep his overweight for it's size body aloft on those stubby little wings for such long periods of time? Where does the energy to do so come from...it must take thousands of kilojoules per hour to maintain a hover, do you think their tiny little digestive system can produce that amount of energy from the food they eat? I dont, and they DO fly, so there has to be something they do which we have no understanding of.
If that energy was produced in the same way as we get energy from our food, bees would glow allmost white hot as a byproduct of the process, yet they dont.

Minds are like parachutes, they only function when they are open.
Don't write something off as sheer lunacy just because it is outside our current understanding and knowledge.

WTE_Dukayn
03-10-2005, 09:03 PM
easy answer to the bee question: incorrect FM. a 'bug' report has been submitted http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WWSensei
03-10-2005, 09:15 PM
Well, for one it repeats the meme that "bees can't fly according to aerodynamic principles" which has been debunked about a million times. The story is an urban legend that was reported by an ignorant reporter (redundant I know) because he didn't understand what an aeronautical engineer was saying. Bees are aerodynamically sound and no such "report" that they couldn't has ever existed.

"Where does the energy to do so come from...it must take thousands of kilojoules per hour to maintain a hover, do you think their tiny little digestive system can produce that amount of energy from the food they eat? I dont, and they DO fly, so there has to be something they do which we have no understanding of."

How they work has been documented many times. Pick up a book on entymology. Just because YOU don't understand how it works please don't speak for me. This stuff has been written about and documented for years. It's in any freshman chemistry book on digestion. It may be beyond your comprehension and understanding but that it's well within the comprehension and understanding of many, many people.

Don't confuse opening the mind with opening the skull and letting the brain fall out.

EnGaurde
03-10-2005, 09:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> to think there will be people who read this, that actually tihnk its possible <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Don't write something off as sheer lunacy just because it is outside our current understanding and knowledge <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

just because i dont know something such as this doesnt exist, doesnt make it automatically likely.

i really dont care how wonderfully gul... open minded you are about this, an obscure web page from the middle of nowhere hardly holds unexplained secrets of the universe.

Having said that, im so elightened by my new open mindedness im deleriously happy. Lets all hold hands and sing KumByeYah while one of our musical frineds plays the acoustic guitar. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

now if he was financed by the Nigerian Royalty looking to invest money, THEN id understand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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JunkoIfurita
03-10-2005, 10:34 PM
Heh heh. You don't even need a working knowledge of entymology to disprove this tale.

After all, he's written that '"It parts space in flight and then closes it behind me. This must be the reason for my invisibility, or the distorted visibility of the device. As I found out later, people sometimes see something where I am in the sky. I appear to them either as a light sphere, a disk, or something like a slanted cloud with sharp edges, which moves strangely according to them, not exactly the way a real cloud would. One person has observed a 'flat, non-transparent square, about one hectare in size'."

And also that film trying to capture the device was distorted/ruined.

Then on the same page they have a picture of him 'flying' on the platform, obviously visible and non-distorted.'

I always give hoax-mongers credit for when they do a good job, but if they can't even manage to keep their internal logic intact, then they are to be dismissed.

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fordfan25
03-11-2005, 01:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WTE_Dukayn:
easy answer to the bee question: incorrect FM. a 'bug' report has been submitted http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

HAHAHAHAH that was a goodn. you get the FORDS JOKE OF THE YEAR award.

Billy_BigBoy
03-11-2005, 04:30 AM
"I placed the small, concave chitin plate on the microscope shelf in order to again examine its strangely star-shaped cells under strong magnification. I again admired this masterpiece of nature. I was about to place a second identical plate with the same unusual cell structure on its underside almost purposelessly on top of the first one. But what! The little plate came loose from my tweezers, hung suspended above the other plate on the microscope shelf for a few seconds, then turned a few degrees clockwise and slid to the right, then turned counterclockwise and swung and only then it abruptly fell on the desk.

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So, this guy found the secret of the anti-gravity used in the B-2...

flyplenty
03-11-2005, 05:10 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Billy_BigBoy:
So, this guy found the secret of the anti-gravity used in the B-2... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yup, Area51 was way ahead of him. It's true, I saw it in Independence Day! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

zaelu
03-11-2005, 07:45 AM
If somebody will do that tricky stuff work many on those forums and abroad will go... gulp.

Take the smallest insect (some of them are realy transparent)
Take the most advanced robot build by human kind... the robot that can realy walk (not just steping).
Questions:
Do you know how complicated is the computer that drives the robot? It's barely walking.
Do you know how complicated is the insects "brain"?
CAN YOU FLY LIKE IT IN IL-2?

Now maybe this story is just an urban legend or whatever... but seeing how people are jumping with proofs on every "abnormal" story makes me think at one single sentiment... FeaR.

Airmail109
03-11-2005, 07:54 AM
I read it on the forums......so it must be true! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Waldo.Pepper
03-11-2005, 08:40 AM
I think the best part is that his flying platform is held together with GIANT WINGNUTS! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bluedog72
03-11-2005, 08:38 PM
You guys miss the part where I said it is dubious as?
Have another look, I made it the first sentance so that it would be quite clear.
Can you quote for me where I say that I reckon this guy might be on to something?
No where did I say..."Hey, I believe this", all I said is why be so closed minded...are you certain that it is impossible?

There is a vast differance between accepting something as fact, and accepting something as possible.
Every pre-school graduate knows that.
There is allso a vast differance between entymology and comprehension, maybe some of you should look into the latter a bit more.

EURO_Snoopy
03-12-2005, 06:30 AM
I am very familiar with Viktor S. Grebennikov's Cavity Resonance Effect, in fact I have witnessed such an effect in discussions here about FM's, DM's patches and pay per play. It is more commonly known as talking out yer a$$

WWSensei
03-12-2005, 10:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There is a vast differance between accepting something as fact, and accepting something as possible.
Every pre-school graduate knows that.
There is allso a vast differance between entymology and comprehension, maybe some of you should look into the latter a bit more. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In your statements you stated it was not known what powers a bumblebee and then generalized it to the point that NO ONE understood therefore how could we dismiss it.

The fact is, how bumblebees fly and how animals and insects derive energy has been studied and known for many years. There is no "mystery" as to how it works.

There is also a vast difference in being open minded about something new and making up fairy tales about something that has been established.