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XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 03:28 PM
Im looking for a new Joystick I have a MS FFB at the mo, but I want to be more precise and lose the rudder twist.

Ideally Id like Force Feedback, throttle on the main stick or seperate ( not bothered ) but must have the ability for rudder pedals. Also the abiltiy for lots of programable buttons. I use a PC.

What do you guys use? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!

XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 03:28 PM
Im looking for a new Joystick I have a MS FFB at the mo, but I want to be more precise and lose the rudder twist.

Ideally Id like Force Feedback, throttle on the main stick or seperate ( not bothered ) but must have the ability for rudder pedals. Also the abiltiy for lots of programable buttons. I use a PC.

What do you guys use? Any advice appreciated. Thanks!

XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 03:51 PM
Try CH Products. They're well built, fully programmable and slightly cheaper than the Thrustmaster Cougar....not to metion more readily available.

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XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 04:00 PM
I use Saitek X45 stick and throttle, and CH Pro USB pedals. That has everything you need except force feedback.
If he doesn't show up on this thread I suggest you get in touch with Bearcat, he uses his MS FFB along with the X45, I believe he just uses the X45 stick for it's buttons. It seems a little extreme to me, but he swears by it, and as you already have a FFB.....
Check out the X45 anyway, I like it a lot, more programmable modes and buttons than you'll ever need. Also check out RC Simulations of Bristol for prices, they're usually pretty good.
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XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 06:50 PM
Could I just buy seperate rudder pedals and use them with a Microsoft Force Feedback stick, then just disable the rudder twist on the stick? Cheers for the reply guys.

XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 06:54 PM
Well it should work. I can use my Momo force pedals but then I loose the force feedback on my Saitek Cyborg Force stick (which is the best ffb joystick I have tried)

since the logitech game pheripherals for some reason always comes first as ID in windows XP.

And why do you have to have one without rudders? I never activates my twist rudders on my Saitek Cyborg force stick by misstake and all the best joysticks do got rudders it seems.

XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 06:58 PM
I wanna up my game a little bit, I have read that even a little unitentional twist of rudder in game can bleed crucial E in a dogfight, something which is quite hard to do when using a twist rudder as Im sure it gets some unintentional input some times.

I thought with footpedals I could try to get to the "next level" and start to fly properly (IMO) using proper techniques rather than the previous rather "gamey" style I have adopted. Thats the reason for hinking of getting seperate rudders.

XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 07:10 PM
You can use rudder pedals with a MS FF stick. just connect the rudder pedals, go into il2 setup, go to HOTAS configuration, click on rudder, and kick the pedal.

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XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 10:07 PM
iamsnip wrote:
- I wanna up my game a little bit, I have read that
- even a little unitentional twist of rudder in game
- can bleed crucial E in a dogfight, something which
- is quite hard to do when using a twist rudder as Im
- sure it gets some unintentional input some times.
-
- I thought with footpedals I could try to get to the
- "next level" and start to fly properly (IMO) using
- proper techniques rather than the previous rather
- "gamey" style I have adopted. Thats the reason for
- hinking of getting seperate rudders.
-
-

I guess it´s possible to disable them fully. I think it can be quite hard these days find good joysticks without rudder twists. But you maybe not want a force feedback joystick since vibration also can bleed crucial E possible.

But then you feel better what your plane can handle too...

XyZspineZyX
10-12-2003, 11:33 PM
ahem...... I uhhh.. I use a MSFFB stick along with the X45....and CH Pedals... works great and adds immensely to the whole immersion thing. My rudder trim is on my twist handle...the rocker on the X45 is actually my flaps....click right once and it increments up...click left once and it increments down. Like Dunk siad I only use thew X45 stick for a button bay. When I originally got the X45 I only wanted it for the throttle and since I didnt have the $$ to plunk down for a CH throttle..(Good product from what I hear../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif ) and thew X45 was on sale fro $45 after a rebate it was a no brainer to me. Once i got the stick and realized I could use the stick portion as well it was off to the races. I am by no means an Ace... but I have more fun with my setup now than I ever dreamed I could have. Since I have most of my commands from trim to lights...(all of em...cockpit,nav,landing and tip smoke!!) mapped to a button on my X45 plus I have the joy of FFB...I am set.

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