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ProAssassin1
09-25-2008, 08:42 AM
If i will buy this video card:
GeForce 8500GT
512MB DDR2
128BIT
The game will work good?Without any grapic bug?
and on meduim+?

L0rdeKing
09-25-2008, 10:28 AM
sorry to break it to you but that card is one of the low rank cards it won't run the game smoother on your system but you can try the geforce 8600

TokyoPoliceClub
09-25-2008, 03:33 PM
If you're looking for a card that will preform well on AC I suggest looking here: Performance/Card (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/07/11/summer-2008-graphics-performance-roundup/13)

As you can see nothing below the 8800 ultra was used, and for good reason.

Also you should include more specs on your system, you can have a great graphics card but be bottlenecking it somewhere. What resolutions do you plan to play at?

The best advice I can give when buying a graphics card is to buy a good one the first time, not a so-so one. If you buy lower end cards, you'll end up having to change them constantly to keep up with software. Don't go all the way to the top though, it'll be over priced and won't be the very best for long.

FableB
09-25-2008, 06:45 PM
I think the 8500 can manage medium, because my 6600 managed with everything set on low, and with a rather decent frame-rate.

TokyoPoliceClub
09-25-2008, 08:23 PM
I think the 8500 can manage medium, because my 6600 managed with everything set on low, and with a rather decent frame-rate.
At what resolution/other hardware? And when you say decent frame rate about what were you getting? I'm not saying you're lying or anything I'm just curious.

@OP: What 8500gt is it exactly? Some are 256mb and some are 512. In any case, anything under an 8800 isn't really meant for intensive gaming. I'll give you a little comparison:

8500gt memory clock: ~667mhz
Core clock: ~450mhz
Stream processors: 16
Memory interface: 128-bit

8800gt memory clock: ~1800mhz
core clock: ~600mhz
Stream processors: 112
Memory interface: 256 bit

And to add to my confusion

6600gt memory clock: ~1000mhz
core clock: ~500mhz
Stream processors: uhh pass, I've got no idea. 8 maybe?
Memory Interface: 128-bit

Either my sources are entirely wrong or the 6600gt almost performs on par with the 8500gt? (If anybody is seeing something I'm not please chime in.)

What I'm trying to get out like an uncomfortable kidney stone is this: If you're going to buy a new graphics card get a good one so you won't have to continually replace it when you get a new game.

davo81
09-25-2008, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by TokyoPoliceClub:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think the 8500 can manage medium, because my 6600 managed with everything set on low, and with a rather decent frame-rate.
At what resolution/other hardware? And when you say decent frame rate about what were you getting? I'm not saying you're lying or anything I'm just curious.

@OP: What 8500gt is it exactly? Some are 256mb and some are 512. In any case, anything under an 8800 isn't really meant for intensive gaming. I'll give you a little comparison:

8500gt memory clock: ~667mhz
Core clock: ~450mhz
Stream processors: 16
Memory interface: 128-bit

8800gt memory clock: ~1800mhz
core clock: ~600mhz
Stream processors: 112
Memory interface: 256 bit

And to add to my confusion

6600gt memory clock: ~1000mhz
core clock: ~500mhz
Stream processors: uhh pass, I've got no idea. 8 maybe?
Memory Interface: 128-bit

Either my sources are entirely wrong or the 6600gt almost performs on par with the 8500gt? (If anybody is seeing something I'm not please chime in.)

What I'm trying to get out like an uncomfortable kidney stone is this: If you're going to buy a new graphics card get a good one so you won't have to continually replace it when you get a new game. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Specs don't determine performance.. there are a ton of other factors (core die size, render paths, firmware etc) it's not just "This clock speed is higher.. so this must be better". Or "this one has 512mb VRAM it must be better than the 256 one!". in many cases 512mb cards VRAM is slower than 256mb VRAM as the larger the size the more expensive it is to get decent speed. for example the 8600 GT 1GB 'super' only has DDR3 memory clocked 70mhz lower than the 256mb GDDR3...

FableB
09-25-2008, 08:57 PM
I was running it on 640X480 and although i don't know the EXACT framerate, but it was quite smooth, not stuttering.

And I have 1gig ram and a 3.0mghz dual core processor.

caswallawn_2k7
09-25-2008, 09:01 PM
actualy the main differance in preformance is the number of stream proccessors. so going from 16 to 112 just shows how much differance there is. the core clock altho minor does make a differance if you avoid the bottle neack on the streams. the bit rating on the ram means 256bit ram can send twice the data of 128bit ram. again the ram clock speed is minor but on the speed differance showing here it will make a big differance.

so realy all the information he posted is relivent to the speed of the card. also the speed on cards doesnt dip for more ram only on cards that dont have the power to actualy proccess the ram they have. the 1gig 8800's still run at 1800mhz just fine. just to proove the point on the ram clock [URL=http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-131-AS&groupid=701&catid=56&subcat=1008&name=Asus GeForce 8800 Ultra HTDP 768MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail[/URL] is a 8800 with 768mb of ram and a memory clock speed of 2160MHz

TokyoPoliceClub
09-26-2008, 12:21 AM
Specs don't determine performance.. there are a ton of other factors (core die size, render paths, firmware etc) it's not just "This clock speed is higher.. so this must be better". Or "this one has 512mb VRAM it must be better than the 256 one!". in many cases 512mb cards VRAM is slower than 256mb VRAM as the larger the size the more expensive it is to get decent speed. for example the 8600 GT 1GB 'super' only has DDR3 memory clocked 70mhz lower than the 256mb GDDR3...

I'm well aware of all of this so before you go on another of your condescending rants think about what you said. Specs certainly don't determine overall performance of course, but they are a fair indicator when the gap is as large as it is between these two cards.

The main point I'm trying to make is that there is a significant difference between an 8500 and an 8800. Buying an 8500 specifically for this game is certainly not in the OP's best interest if you ask me.

Thanks for the info btw fable.

Edit: He posted this on the community advice forum too if you want to look:Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4721051016/m/3181080986)

davo81
09-26-2008, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by TokyoPoliceClub:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Specs don't determine performance.. there are a ton of other factors (core die size, render paths, firmware etc) it's not just "This clock speed is higher.. so this must be better". Or "this one has 512mb VRAM it must be better than the 256 one!". in many cases 512mb cards VRAM is slower than 256mb VRAM as the larger the size the more expensive it is to get decent speed. for example the 8600 GT 1GB 'super' only has DDR3 memory clocked 70mhz lower than the 256mb GDDR3...

I'm well aware of all of this so before you go on another of your condescending rants think about what you said. Specs certainly don't determine overall performance of course, but they are a fair indicator when the gap is as large as it is between these two cards.

The main point I'm trying to make is that there is a significant difference between an 8500 and an 8800. Buying an 8500 specifically for this game is certainly not in the OP's best interest if you ask me.

Thanks for the info btw fable.

Edit: He posted this on the community advice forum too if you want to look:Here (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4721051016/m/3181080986) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I totally agree with you, im not flaming or ranting.. perhaps you took it the wrong way.. i was not aiming my argument at you, but just clarifying to the public that the higher isn't necessarily the better, you were not saying that higher is better you were just compairing the 8500 to the 8800. Sorry if i offended you.

The 6600 gt has 6 or 8 stream processors if i recall.