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capt_frank
02-27-2007, 04:15 PM
Check out this at YouTube, Jimi Hendrix in a 12 string:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKL4EdxON-o

Rood-Zwart
02-27-2007, 05:12 PM
yeah, he's a great pilot! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

TheGozr
02-27-2007, 05:17 PM
Awesome!

RegRag1977
02-27-2007, 05:18 PM
You don't know what you're saying, Rood-Zwart!

Don't you know Jimi used to play a Gibson "Flying" V?

I also like how his stratocaster booms to the stratosphere...

But as we can see in this video, Jimi also like War axes. Now go figure!

By the way, excellent post Captain Frank http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Jagdgeschwader2
02-27-2007, 05:22 PM
That's very cool. Always loved Jimi.

Watch this guy paint a mural of Jimi in like five minutes flat. This is from the Monterey video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xddN-ysrFlk



http://home.earthlink.net/~jagdgeschwader26/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/jagdgeschwader2s3.jpg

capt_frank
02-27-2007, 05:29 PM
I had the great pleasure of seeing him live in San Antonio early in 1970. Just incredible, played with his teeth and behind his back.

Just an amazing talent.

huesotravieso
02-27-2007, 05:51 PM
I was born in 78 and I missed it all!!!!!
Hendrix, Doors, Stooges, MC5, early wild Santana, Nick Drake, Gang Of Four... Long long list of ppl I missed.

I din't even had a chance for the 60s and 70s (nor 80s but that's OK most of the time but for Jaco Pastorius and few more).


WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!

BrotherVoodoo
02-27-2007, 06:22 PM
Very sweet clip man. I like him so much I used Jimi's face in my pilot skin. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Capt. Frank I am jealous! To actually see the man play with your own eyes...what an experience.

horseback
02-27-2007, 06:33 PM
Man, you got in just under the wire, Frank. Jimi died on my 17th birthday, September 16th, 1970.

Closest I got to seeing him 'live' was watching the Woodstock movie 8 or 10 times that summer...

cheers

horseback

Rubylust
02-27-2007, 06:50 PM
As a teen he was my idol although a couple of years after he died. Hendrix was what to listen to when I wanted to trip, or get stoned out of my mind. My favorite was his version of Dylan's 'All along the watchtower.' Like my other childhood rock idols I now see him in a different light. I'm not sure he knew who he was or what he really wanted. He had superb talent.

MrMojok
02-27-2007, 07:34 PM
He died on the 18th.

GBrutus
02-27-2007, 07:56 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Copperhead310th
02-27-2007, 11:29 PM
Red house live. My personal fav.

But you got to remember that Jimi was a Blues man to the core. that was where his roots were. all modern american music, came from 2 types, the black mans Blues & dirt poor white trash hillbilly bluegrass. with a little Gospel thrown in. Which if you listen to a lot og blues & kentuky bluegrass....you can see some siliarities. i was raised on both & country.
Sat. evenings would find my granma porch and yard packed with 15-20 ppl. mostly relitives, and grad paw would brak out the fiddle, and from nowwhere a banjo would apear, a mouth harp, and a couple guitars.

and they'd play:

Up on the mountian
shotgun blues
Duling bajos
Wildwood Flower
Walkin the floor over you
hey goodlookin'

they'd play all night. 8 yrs old and i'd fall to sleep listening to all of that music and ppl.
that was life growing uop in the south.
wow i really mis those days. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


Given the chice that's how i like to hear Jimmy play. clean simple pure.

Badsight-
02-27-2007, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
Given the chice that's how i like to hear Jimmy play. clean simple pure. well - Jimi live was rough , messy & mistake laden

he must have been amazing for that day & age to still be considered something special

Markku38
02-28-2007, 12:12 AM
All Along the Watchtower --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTdLeVjSaaM

Purple Haze --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF0o4xCqPgU

Hey Joe --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvsLdc48ys&NR

Some of my favorites by Jimi http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Blutarski2004
02-28-2007, 06:29 AM
Four interesting things about Hendrix -

1. He was physically gifted with hands so large that he could produce fingering combinations impossible for others to emulate.

2. He used to play back up for Little Richard.

3. He was a paratrooper

4. He was a musical genius, and the line is thin between genius and madness.

Longpo
02-28-2007, 08:18 AM
Youtube is handy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Machine Gun > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V96_T8xLUys

One of my favourite videos is this press conference, not long after Woodstock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYlWyBm7sXY

BaldieJr
02-28-2007, 01:04 PM
Jimi Hendrix is not a real person. He was a myth created by the recording industry.

Fork-N-spoon
02-28-2007, 01:26 PM
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.

Monty_Thrud
02-28-2007, 02:00 PM
Jimi, god bless you son, what an amazing talent http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif, i love him.

OMK_Hand
02-28-2007, 02:04 PM
Amen. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
In 'Jimi plays Berkeley', towards the end where he does his thing for the girl in the front row... The look on her face... That's what it was all about.

Warrington_Wolf
02-28-2007, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by huesotravieso:
I was born in 78 and I missed it all!!!!!
Hendrix, Doors, Stooges, MC5, early wild Santana, Nick Drake, Gang Of Four... Long long list of ppl I missed.

I din't even had a chance for the 60s and 70s (nor 80s but that's OK most of the time but for Jaco Pastorius and few more).


WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry you are not the only one, I was born in 84 so I well and truly missed it. Jimi Hendrix is one of the few musicians where I can remember when and where I first heard their music. My Mum was listening to the radio and Purple Haze came on, after that I was hooked on his music, I was about 8 at the time.
I've got to say though that music from the 1960s in general is so superior to music from recent years. Think about it, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis and The Kinks.
Most kids nowadays don't have a clue about music.

zyotich
02-28-2007, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.

And what is the music that brightens your day?

major_setback
02-28-2007, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by capt_frank:
I had the great pleasure of seeing him live in San Antonio early in 1970. Just incredible, played with his teeth and behind his back.

Just an amazing talent.

Easy! My grandad could play with his teeth behind his back. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Warrington_Wolf
02-28-2007, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.
As I said in an earlier post, I was about 8 when I "Experienced" Jimi Hendrix's music, I liked it then and I still do. I have never taken illegal substances, I don't even smoke cigarettes and I am a bit of a lightweight in the booze department too.

GreyFox5
02-28-2007, 03:41 PM
He's buried in the Seattle area. I've visited his gravesite back in 2000. Simple stone marker nothing fancy buried next to his Grandmother.

onebox33
02-28-2007, 06:40 PM
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well.
OMG ...he is the best guitar player of all times, 9 guitar players on 10, think that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

ratchet1961
02-28-2007, 07:53 PM
hey
doe`s any body remember that guy from southern England, back in the 1960`s they were calling him GOD, thats it Eric Clapton.
But for me it has to be Robert Johnson, i`m trying to to play crossroads the way he played it, man this guy was busy, playing base, lead and slide at the same, as Keith Richards once said "you think you`ve got a handle on the blues till you here Robert play then you think man there`s along way to go yet", and the way i`am going at it, it could take 5 years !

Badsight-
02-28-2007, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by onebox33:
OMG ...he is the best guitar player of all times, 9 guitar players on 10, think that http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif heh , your just being funny . . . . . . . . . . right ?


(my sentiments exactly bollilo)

Blutarski2004
02-28-2007, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by huesotravieso:
I was born in 78 and I missed it all!!!!!
Hendrix, Doors, Stooges, MC5, early wild Santana, Nick Drake, Gang Of Four... Long long list of ppl I missed.

I din't even had a chance for the 60s and 70s (nor 80s but that's OK most of the time but for Jaco Pastorius and few more).


WHY WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't worry you are not the only one, I was born in 84 so I well and truly missed it. Jimi Hendrix is one of the few musicians where I can remember when and where I first heard their music. My Mum was listening to the radio and Purple Haze came on, after that I was hooked on his music, I was about 8 at the time.
I've got to say though that music from the 1960s in general is so superior to music from recent years. Think about it, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis and The Kinks.
Most kids nowadays don't have a clue about music. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



..... Don't sell the kids short. I have bumped into an awful lot of current generation kids who are very keen on 60's music - and who tell me that current pop rock bites the bag.

It's kinda cool when kids today get turned on by the same music that turned us on in the 60's.

Ugly_Kid
03-01-2007, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.

Right...it's therefore really a relief that we are offered such a quality artists and talents in Idols casting show - what a loss for mankind if these talents were never discovered.

So truly what is a drugged up hippy in comparison, playing the guitar like a God, so that still nowadays even a sober can not repeat? Oh yeah, we can always do it with synth and present it cutely with playback with a proper show with fancy dancing pufters imitating Michael Jackson - could almost make a DIN-standard for that sh!te. Thank God we have some proper W@nkers like some effin' Westlife doing only covers from songs from the time when people still bothered to make their music themselves. Really, what's 70s stuff in comparison. Sometimes I wish I could tear the car radio from the console and throw it out of the window.

Compare guitarmusic with ravers synthesizer monotony - thx, for the educated contribution.

(and I do not approve of drugs)

Ugly_Kid
03-01-2007, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
I've got to say though that music from the 1960s in general is so superior to music from recent years. Think about it, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis and The Kinks.
Most kids nowadays don't have a clue about music.

Amen,

(this will probably now develope to a FM-discussion direction, who's favourite music won the war)

Fork-N-spoon
03-01-2007, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Ugly_Kid:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
I've got to say though that music from the 1960s in general is so superior to music from recent years. Think about it, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Elvis and The Kinks.
Most kids nowadays don't have a clue about music.

Amen,

(this will probably now develope to a FM-discussion direction, who's favourite music won the war) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

And if you could dig up people that were much older than you, but knew of the music 1960s music listed above, they'd probably say the same exact thing. Each generation usually finds music of the next generation as the bane society.

To some of the earlier posters, I am only forty-two, but I've been subjected to Jimi Hendrix since my earliest memories, I've a clear memory back to 1970. I didn't like it then and I still do not like it. Of all the people that I have personally known that embrace his music, it's always been people that worship mood altering substances. This is why I associate Hendrix with drugs.

Who said that he's one of the top ten guitarists? By what standard of measurement is he being subjected to? The only music that I've ever personally heard that's stood the test of time and is truly great is classical. Anybody that says that he's the greatest musician and or guitarist is obviously sighting their own bias. I say this because not only do I only hear distorted music when I listen to his rubbish, but so do other people that I know. Who's the greatest and what's the greatest in terms of music obviously differs with time and to whom you're speaking to.

And lastly, for those that think that I'm narrow minded or what have you because I think that his music is rubbish, perhaps you should point this finger at yourself. What's wrong? Can't I have my own opinion? At least I don't embrace some music that was quite popular at the time. Pick something original, at the time Hendrix was quite popular. Butch up and dare to be different. God "normal" people and people that follow mainstream are so dull!

About the only thing that I've read so far that I agree with is the fact that today's music, at least in America, lacks any originality. It's been so commercialized and watered down that I no longer listen to it. They've even corrupted my Alternative/indie rock from the 1980s into something indescribable.

Badsight-
03-01-2007, 01:48 AM
if you like acoustic bollilo , you might like :
Xeufei yang (skill is amazing , unbelievably clean player)
strunz & farah
the california guitar trio
Remi Boucher
Kazuhito Yamas-h-i-ta , (remove the bars)

besides a couple of hundred other players with non-distort relying abilitys!

Rubylust
03-01-2007, 01:53 AM
Fork-N-spoon I remember the first time I listened to a complete album of his, his greatest hits, and most of those songs were not of the distorted form in my opinion. And although most of the music I really enjoyed was a result of the ability to enhance mind-altering experience whether drugs or alcohol, when I was straight this same music stayed my favorite. To this day I can still enjoy it and not just Hendrix: Alice Cooper, The Stones, Beatles Magical Mystery Tour, Yes, David Bowie... and quite a number of others who had their period of mind-altering escapist music creation.

A lot of people do associate Hendrix with drugs, heck he died from an overdose, but there are a number of songs of his that did not suggest a diversion from reality. One of my favorites with heavy blues influence manifesting his raw talent was 'Red House.' His playing reminds me of the late Stevie Ray Vaughan who was considered by many to be very similar in technique and talent.

I don't put you down for your opinion, I can understand where you're coming from, but I think you're limited by your morals and being familiar with just one side, albiet a significant one of his expression. Judging his raw talent on the guitar, even his contemporaries praised his abilities and the only one I remember who was talked about as being in his league was Eric Clapton.

Anyway he's long gone just like John Lennon. That era is history.

Fork-N-spoon
03-01-2007, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.
As I said in an earlier post, I was about 8 when I "Experienced" Jimi Hendrix's music, I liked it then and I still do. I have never taken illegal substances, I don't even smoke cigarettes and I am a bit of a lightweight in the booze department too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't believe that you like Morrissey and or the Smiths. :\/ It's similar to having a fancy for both rap and country at the same time... Your posts always stand out because I instanly recognize the Smiths song "Panic."

By the way Rubylust, it's nothing to do with morals. I'm no right wing, christian, conservative. While I've never used illegal drugs, I've been known to be a bit of a drunk. Despite the fact, I don't embrace mood altering substances or a culture that does. Even though I've used alcohol, quite heavily at times, you're never going to hear me boast of the magical powers of alcohol in any positive manner.

I don't like Hendrix, blues, Jazz or any of that music because it's painful to my ears and I want to violently hurt the person playing it. That's how passionate I am about it.

Esel1964
03-01-2007, 02:10 AM
Does anyone have a link to a free "Little Wing" download? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

*EDIT*
Nevermind,found lots!

BaldieJr
03-01-2007, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Badsight-:
if you like acoustic bollilo , you might like :
Xeufei yang (skill is amazing , unbelievably clean player)
strunz & farah
the california guitar trio
Remi Boucher
Kazuhito Yamas-h-i-ta , (remove the bars)

besides a couple of hundred other players with non-distort relying abilitys!

Theres a guy here in Louisville whos name escapes me. Wow. Just plain WOW. He released an acoustic arrangement of Roundabout. Its mind-numbingly good and painfully complex.

1 pair of hands playing all the parts of that song. Its insane. I heard it once and will never forget it. Thats serious guitar.

MEGILE
03-01-2007, 04:28 AM
Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:



And if you could dig up people that were much older than you, but knew of the music 1960s music listed above, they'd probably say the same exact thing. Each generation usually finds music of the next generation as the bane society.

To some of the earlier posters, I am only forty-two, but I've been subjected to Jimi Hendrix since my earliest memories, I've a clear memory back to 1970. I didn't like it then and I still do not like it. Of all the people that I have personally known that embrace his music, it's always been people that worship mood altering substances. This is why I associate Hendrix with drugs.

Who said that he's one of the top ten guitarists? By what standard of measurement is he being subjected to? The only music that I've ever personally heard that's stood the test of time and is truly great is classical. Anybody that says that he's the greatest musician and or guitarist is obviously sighting their own bias. I say this because not only do I only hear distorted music when I listen to his rubbish, but so do other people that I know. Who's the greatest and what's the greatest in terms of music obviously differs with time and to whom you're speaking to.

And lastly, for those that think that I'm narrow minded or what have you because I think that his music is rubbish, perhaps you should point this finger at yourself. What's wrong? Can't I have my own opinion? At least I don't embrace some music that was quite popular at the time. Pick something original, at the time Hendrix was quite popular. Butch up and dare to be different. God "normal" people and people that follow mainstream are so dull!

About the only thing that I've read so far that I agree with is the fact that today's music, at least in America, lacks any originality. It's been so commercialized and watered down that I no longer listen to it. They've even corrupted my Alternative/indie rock from the 1980s into something indescribable.

On a scale of 1 to 10, this post rates small pen1s.
Because you gotta have some serious issues if you need to go around the internet posting this stuff

ljazz
03-01-2007, 05:13 AM
I too have a bit of issue with saying he was so great, technically speaking. He was however a groundbreaker, and opened the doors for some of the other "power-based" blues acts (ie Led Zepplin).

Don't doubt his influence... without him we probably never would of heard of some truely great musicians... like SRV.

If you are a guitarist, or just enjoy music, then you must listen to Wes Montgomery.... who, btw, Jimi cited as a major influence. Calling Jimi one of the 10 best guitarists when you have guys out there like Wes, SRV, Jimmy Vaughn, Les Paul, Robben Ford, Mike Stern, Junior Brown, Chet Atkins, Django Reinhardt, Earl Klugh and Duke Robbilard (and many many others) is simply a travesty.

ljazz

alert_1
03-01-2007, 05:22 AM
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.

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Blutarski2004
03-01-2007, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by ljazz:
I too have a bit of issue with saying he was so great, technically speaking. He was however a groundbreaker, and opened the doors for some of the other "power-based" blues acts (ie Led Zepplin).

Don't doubt his influence... without him we probably never would of heard of some truely great musicians... like SRV.

If you are a guitarist, or just enjoy music, then you must listen to Wes Montgomery.... who, btw, Jimi cited as a major influence. Calling Jimi one of the 10 best guitarists when you have guys out there like Wes, SRV, Jimmy Vaughn, Les Paul, Robben Ford, Mike Stern, Junior Brown, Chet Atkins, Django Reinhardt, Earl Klugh and Duke Robbilard (and many many others) is simply a travesty.

ljazz



..... You make some good points. I'm 58 and therefore a child of the 60's. Hendrix must be viewed in the musical context of his time. His guitar legacy IMHO is less about technicical precision or cleanliness than it is about being an agent of imaginitive stylistic change for the music of his time.

Was he one of the 10 greatest guitarists ever? I guess that depends upon what one looks for in a guitarist. Was he among the top 10 ROCK guitarists ever? IMO, yes.

It's akin to asking whether Janis Joplin was a great singer. She most certainly was within her chosen genre. Joni Mitchell was a great singer as well, but in a different genre.

It's all about context.

capt_frank
03-01-2007, 05:55 AM
I first heard Jimi Hendrix when I was 15, that was 1967. I remember my older brother blasting "Are You Experienced" on the family's console (anyone remember those?). What utter cr@p I thought. The noise was deafening and I gladly retreated to my room to listen to my vinyl Beatles records.

Something happened within the next year, I'm not sure what, but I found myself soon laying at the feet of our family's console blasting that same album.

To this day, I still have a tendency to shy away from his music which kinda wanders IMHO, but still, of course, throroughly enjoy the rest. Axis Bold as Love is a fun album which which is quite a departure from the norm. Electric Ladyland was a 1968 Christmas gift, still have it, and I'm still a Merman.

And no, I never associated him with drugs. He was someone who I considered to be ahead of the pack and obviously different from whatever else was blarring on the radio at that time.

I also listened heavily to The Who (Live at Leeds), Cream (Disreali Gears)and the Moody Blues (Nights in White Satin)among others, but Hendrix was always what I ultimately returned to.

Chop it down with the edge of my hand...

Frank

flyingloon
03-01-2007, 06:03 AM
"I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable."


um i think Jimi was one of those talents that whilst it may sounds like distortion he was making the guitar sing like no one else could/would. and we shall probably never see his like again, which is saddening in these days of manufactured tosh... and as for "disordered" rave music, listen to some aphex twin/richard d james, he does the music by the numbers, very mathmatical approach to it. so whilst it may seem chaotic there is always order hidden further down. rave music generally goes on 4 6 8 and so on beats, which is pretty ordered if you look at it. how else do they mix it unless they are putting beats together that follow a discernible pattern?

x6BL_Brando
03-01-2007, 07:11 AM
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish.

Last night I dragged out two of my most precious DVDs and sat down to watch some of America's finest musicians play the blues. The discs contain the only visual record of the American Folk Blues Festival that ran from 1962 to 1966 and has performances by Muddy Waters, Memphis Slim, Willie Dixon, Victoria Spivey, Sonny Boy Williamson and many more. I was lucky enough to catch the tour in 1965 in Bristol, England, and it was perhaps the best musical event I ever attended. I played, sang and lived the Blues ever since - turned on by the sound of an old man blowing a subtle harp on 'Bye bye bird, bye bye'. My love of music spans many cultures and several centuries, but this simple down-home music has never left me alone. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Jimi was like the prodigal son of these bluesmen & women - no different. His music just came from a new generation. He didn't sing about picking cotton or swinging a hammer in the local penitentiary or riding the blinds on a freight train or any of the po' boy stuff. He reflected the times that he lived in; the atomic age, Vietnam, and yes, the drugs that reached into heads of so many in that brief decade. Listened to with an appreciation of guitar blues Jimi's work is sublime. He is skilled at playing a real instrument (not a synthesiser) and his use of feedback is superb. He is just another performer struggling to break free of the conventions and attitudes of his peers - while retaining a respect for the roots of his culture & musical heritage. He was one of the best

Like so many of us, I was sad when he died. Life on the road, fame and its attendant pressures, depression and too much money killed Jimi - but it's not like this never happened anywhere else in a hundred years. It's almost better that he died at the peak of his powers than as an overweight, benzedrine -soaked cabaret star in some Las Vegas hotel suite. Drugs are generally a bad thing, especially as our out-dated prohibitive laws place their distribution in the hands of career criminals, but panning Jimi's artistry is just a futile swipe by someone who doesn't know the man, the times and his music. It misses the point completely.

B.

Scen
03-01-2007, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by alert_1:
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.

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Then it's pretty clear you don't understand music and you certainly don't understand guitar and what massive contributions he's made to Rock and Roll.

If you only heard what Paul McCartney and John Lennon where saying about him when he played their Sgt Peppers music.

You should have heard what Peter Townsend and Eric Clapton where saying when they heard him.

Bob Dylan said that all All Along the Watch Tower which he wrote... That Hendrix's version was how is was supposed to be played.

Any Rock Guitarist of today has had his influence from many of the guitarist mentioned in this thread and almost all of them will mention Hendrix.

Beyond the distortion was great writing and guitar technique that can still be heard in modern music today.

R_Target
03-01-2007, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by x6BL_Brando:

...his use of feedback is superb.

Yes!

WWSpinDry
03-01-2007, 11:53 AM
I say Hendrix is completely under-modeled. In the videos it clearly shows four different voicings for C and in the sim he only gets three. Page gets all four. It shows a clear anti-blues bias.

His damage model is porked, too.

Warrington_Wolf
03-01-2007, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Warrington_Wolf:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fork-N-spoon:
I think that his music was complete and total rubbish. It's nothing more than distortion that's been embraced by a culture that worships drugs as well. People that loved Jimi and his horrid music remind me of the ravers that began showing up in my club during the early 1990s. Ravers wanted to hear rubbish that had no semblance of order, but considering the fact that most were blasted on extacy, it's no wonder they found the music so enjoyable.
As I said in an earlier post, I was about 8 when I "Experienced" Jimi Hendrix's music, I liked it then and I still do. I have never taken illegal substances, I don't even smoke cigarettes and I am a bit of a lightweight in the booze department too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can't believe that you like Morrissey and or the Smiths. :\/ It's similar to having a fancy for both rap and country at the same time... Your posts always stand out because I instanly recognize the Smiths song "Panic."

By the way Rubylust, it's nothing to do with morals. I'm no right wing, christian, conservative. While I've never used illegal drugs, I've been known to be a bit of a drunk. Despite the fact, I don't embrace mood altering substances or a culture that does. Even though I've used alcohol, quite heavily at times, you're never going to hear me boast of the magical powers of alcohol in any positive manner.

I don't like Hendrix, blues, Jazz or any of that music because it's painful to my ears and I want to violently hurt the person playing it. That's how passionate I am about it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
It's funny that you should mention country music, I bought the greatest hits of Johny Cash on Monday. I have heard his cover of Hurt and it blew me away, I also watched Walk The Line on Saturday and I was foot tapping to the music.
My music taste is quite varied ranging from things like The Shadows and Buddy Holly to Metallica and AC/DC http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif, I've even got folders on my hard drive of classical music and "hits of the blitz".
I never did get rap music but I like RnB (Rhythm and Blues) and some Motown stuff too.

ploughman
03-01-2007, 02:14 PM
Don't call me ghey but early Rod Stewart's not bad neither.

Is it Rodney or Roderick?

MrMojok
03-01-2007, 02:59 PM
I am trying to decide which opinion holds more weight:

1) Some posters who never got into his music

2) The other guitar players who cite him as a major influence, which is just about every accomplished guitarist of the last 35 years.


I shall have to deliberate on this a while.

WWSpinDry
03-01-2007, 04:25 PM
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OMK_Hand
03-01-2007, 04:41 PM
We have a century or thereabouts of recorded music available to us today, and Jimi is right in there, still shakin' his phenominal process to those who're interested after all these years. Still with a tone to die for. For sure, a colour in the rainbow. Someone mentioned Robert Johnson, now he's a real scratchy player if ever there was one, but he's so much greater than the sum of his parts (!). He sang the Blues like he meant it (REALLY *****in' and moanin' after a day's graft), and he lived the life. These people were pioneers, using their dedication to making music to break out of their hereditary situation, each one pushing in all directions. Django Reinhardt anyone? Two fingers and a thumb for chrissake... Extraordinary people... Through a miracle of science, they are all available for us today to enjoy or not as we please.
Fantastic! We're spoilt for choice.

BaldieJr
03-01-2007, 05:52 PM
2) The other guitar players who cite him as a major influence, which is just about every accomplished guitarist of the last 35 years.

yeah and if there was money/fame in being a really mean person i'd be citing Genghis Kahn as a major influence while studying Pol Pot in my spare time. The old saying still holds true: the masses are asses. Especially when it comes to music. Hendrix had no talent outside of the will to act nutty. People pay for nutty. Anyone hoping to get paid playing guitar had damn well better say "Yeah I like Hendrix too" if income is of any consequence.

onebox33
03-01-2007, 06:09 PM
you simply don't know what is a talking guitar!http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif
then you need to lissen alot of right music before you can apreciate musicians like jimi hendrix or frank zappa, without this you hear only a noise as you saidhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MrMojok
03-01-2007, 07:47 PM
You think it somehow helps a guitarist to cite Hendrix as an influence in a publication or in the notes of a cd?

What I meant is, everyone from Eddie VH to SRV to Satriani to Prince had him as an influence when they were learning to play. As far as acting crazy, or whatever you want to call it, the playing with the teeth or behind the back was a freakshow thing that he did because it was expected early on, and it was very much something that he grew tired of, and refused to do altogether, later on.

It sounds like a lot of posters here never heard any of the stuff Hendrix was getting intto right before his death, the stuff that would have been the "Rays of the New Rising Sun" album. It was very progressive, and different, for 1969-1970.

A lot of people think Clapton has all the talent Hendrix didn't.

I suppose it's a matter of taste. I think Clapton was, and is, sh1te. A lot of people disagree.

Music is far too subjective to really judge, in the sense of skill of a person with their instrument. Is Yngvie Malmsteen a sh1tty guitarist? I would say no. I also know people who simply cannot stand to listen to him, and who say 'shredding' doesn't take the talent it takes to play good blues.* Whatever, different strokes for different folks, I guess.



*And don't get me wrong, I am a big blues fan.

Copperhead310th
03-01-2007, 07:51 PM
Here's a storry for you guys. It will relate in the to the topic @ the end.

in 1993 i was working nigths at a local truck stop part time to make extra mony. job was total ****. and after working 8-10 hours a day wiring 300,000 homes that i'd never be able to aford, for home owners who did nothing all day but play golf and sit on their fat lazy @sses, i got to go pump fuel into 18 wheelers all night. The gig only paid 6.00 bucks an hour. So i'd hustle tips off truckers by washing the bugs & **** off thier windows. Which on a good night would gain me an extra 40- 50 bucks. Some nights i might scrape up enough for a ham & cheese & a coke. IF i was lucky.

But one off the perks was, from time to time a tour bus would pull up to the pump. & i'd get to meet a few ppl. Some of the ppl i got to meet were:

Tom T. Hall
The Caosters
Billy Dean (Cuntry singer, who luaghably got off the buss wearing nothing but a pair of cut off jeans, 2 dollar flip flops, and a Reba macintiyre T-shirt.)

Jackyl
Jesse Jamse Dupree is an *******. PERIOD. a Total Dikc. Thier drummer verry cool. and hung out with me for 15 mins just cause he said Jesse was deing a dikc and he wanted to get away from him for a few. lol

and there were others. But by far the most memorable was Dinner in the truck stop with one of the bules gretest players. His bus driver offerd me 50 bucks to was all the windows. which i did happily. when i was done, i was invited on the bus, (not knowing who was on there) and told i did such a good job the gentalman on the bus wanted to buy me dinner.
When the driver opend the curtan at the front to let me back, there sat B.B. King on the sofa. (with Lucille) He said son you did a fine job. fine indded. you didn't have to wash the entire bus, (laughter) here's a hundred dollars. now i'm gonna go in here and get me somthing or other to eat. my suguar is gettin low. they got any good ribs?"

i could hardly speak. for a 22 year old kid raised on country, blues, gospal & bluegrass, this was hella cool. So i took an early break and sat at the booth with BB and a couple guys.
I asked about his days in Saint Louis, & Chicago. and if he was related to Albert King, (he's not) and if he knew lighting Hopkins. and if he ever got to play with Stevie Ray Vaughn. All in all he was very kind, graciuos, generous, and tolerated all om my insesant qustioning. lol

but one of the last questions i asked him was who he thought were the top 5 guitar players were from the past 25 years, excluding him self of course.

and here are the names he gave me. In no piticular order.

Eric Clapton
Jimmy Hendrix
Steavie Ray Vaughn
"That Eddie Van Halen kid" Lol Direct quote
Jimmy Page

So acording to BB King in 1993 those were the top 5 guitar pickers of the last 25 years. Ecluding himself.

out side of BB and the ppl listed above i've got to meet,

Whoopi Goldburg
Gen. Harrold "Hal" Moore
Hank Williams Jr. (several times, He's from here & hunts here every season)
Brodie Croyel (former QB for U of Alabama Now with the Chiefs or redskins cant remember)
David Allen Coe (total @sshole, played at a club i was working at as a bouncer. my job for the night was to guard his bus.boring)
Willie Nelson, who was every bit as cool as BB.
But you need a guided escourt from Cheech or Tommy Chong to get back off the bus cause you cant find your own way off with all the smoke.
And Quiet Riot. which was *yawn* an experiance.

Badsight-
03-01-2007, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by MrMojok:
I am trying to decide which opinion holds more weight:

1) Some posters who never got into his music

2) The other guitar players who cite him as a major influence, which is just about every accomplished guitarist of the last 35 years. the proof is in the playing

i have multiple vids of him live

summed up , he can be described as : rough , messy - & the maker of constant mistakes

really awesome skills http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

MrMojok
03-01-2007, 10:33 PM
Well, so do I. Multiple videos and cd recordings. But I am not really talking about the way he played live, as I thought I made my point clear above.

Then again, I should have known better than to even reply to this.

Here, let's get this more on par with what we are all used to:

LOLZ Sp1tFIreZ RoXXored GeRManZ

MrMojok
03-01-2007, 10:43 PM
Better yet:

P-51=Eddie Van Halen

P-47=Stevie Ray Vaughan

P_11c=Hendrix

Sp1FiReZZ=Angel Harps in Heaven

***edited to add this:***

Motorcycle in Game, if driven by ******=Eric Clapton

Badsight-
03-02-2007, 02:05 AM
dont try & dimish the example

his playing live is representative of his actual skill with the guitar , rather than what he was able to produce in the studio with editing

& based on that its amazing the level of praise that directed to him as a guitar player .

partic_3
03-02-2007, 02:52 AM
don't try & dimish the example

his playing live is representative of his actual skill with the guitar , rather than what he was able to produce in the studio with editing

& based on that its amazing the level of praise that directed to him as a guitar player .

Mmmm... I agree with the notion that Hendrix was not a technical prodigy. There are far more precise players. He was a creative genius. I have noticed in the past that some people simply don't comprehend creativity. It's like trying to explain colour to a blind person. I think him one of the most original songwriters in pop history; and he was a pop musician. Pop, in my opinion, is not a genre rather it suggests a freedom from the generic. His inventiveness, the freedom to create music never before imagined by a human being, marks him as a truly remarkable artist.
Some of his live recordings are pretty awful, in my opinion. But some things, like The Star Spangled Banner that he did at Woodstock quite simply transcended the very concept of music and have never been reproduced by anyone since. He was not "a guitar player"... he was an artist of rare brilliance, whose medium was sound, mostly produced on a guitar.

joeap
03-02-2007, 04:26 AM
FFS, music is so subjective. You either like something or not, no need to get all snitty about it.

I remember how ******ed high school (early 80s in BC) was, we had the hard rockers/metalheads vs. New wavers. I liked music from both camps, though my personal style was average nerd. Hard to admit it though, you had to be one or the other. Nice girls in both camps though.

AndyHigh
03-02-2007, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by Badsight-:
his playing live is representative of his actual skill with the guitar , rather than what he was able to produce in the studio with editing


Yeah, take for example Red House performed at San Diego in 1969. How many mistakes? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Some of his tunes were better in studio (and not performed live), but many were as good or better on stage.

Music != engineering.

BaldieJr
03-02-2007, 07:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyNzvVIbKA4

onebox33
03-02-2007, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by MrMojok:
I am trying to decide which opinion holds more weight:

1) Some posters who never got into his music

2) The other guitar players who cite him as a major influence, which is just about every accomplished guitarist of the last 35 years.


I shall have to deliberate on this a while.

clearly the first one, a kind of men that know everething... but this is the only thing that they really know...this is an old story.
Surely much more weight than alot of the most famous guitar players in the world... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

joeap
03-02-2007, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by BaldieJr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyNzvVIbKA4

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif No reason not to like different kinds of music.

rcskypilot1953
03-02-2007, 07:56 AM
Jimi is still great even when he is gone i seen him back in around 1969 and i tell ya he was flying.

shotdownski
03-02-2007, 08:01 AM
Great story Copperhead. And yeah, Willie is a very nice guy.




Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
Here's a storry for you guys. It will relate in the to the topic @ the end.

in 1993 i was working nigths at a local truck stop part time to make extra mony. job was total ****. and after working 8-10 hours a day wiring 300,000 homes that i'd never be able to aford, for home owners who did nothing all day but play golf and sit on their fat lazy @sses, i got to go pump fuel into 18 wheelers all night. The gig only paid 6.00 bucks an hour. So i'd hustle tips off truckers by washing the bugs & **** off thier windows. Which on a good night would gain me an extra 40- 50 bucks. Some nights i might scrape up enough for a ham & cheese & a coke. IF i was lucky.

But one off the perks was, from time to time a tour bus would pull up to the pump. & i'd get to meet a few ppl. Some of the ppl i got to meet were:

Tom T. Hall
The Caosters
Billy Dean (Cuntry singer, who luaghably got off the buss wearing nothing but a pair of cut off jeans, 2 dollar flip flops, and a Reba macintiyre T-shirt.)

Jackyl
Jesse Jamse Dupree is an *******. PERIOD. a Total Dikc. Thier drummer verry cool. and hung out with me for 15 mins just cause he said Jesse was deing a dikc and he wanted to get away from him for a few. lol

and there were others. But by far the most memorable was Dinner in the truck stop with one of the bules gretest players. His bus driver offerd me 50 bucks to was all the windows. which i did happily. when i was done, i was invited on the bus, (not knowing who was on there) and told i did such a good job the gentalman on the bus wanted to buy me dinner.
When the driver opend the curtan at the front to let me back, there sat B.B. King on the sofa. (with Lucille) He said son you did a fine job. fine indded. you didn't have to wash the entire bus, (laughter) here's a hundred dollars. now i'm gonna go in here and get me somthing or other to eat. my suguar is gettin low. they got any good ribs?"

i could hardly speak. for a 22 year old kid raised on country, blues, gospal & bluegrass, this was hella cool. So i took an early break and sat at the booth with BB and a couple guys.
I asked about his days in Saint Louis, & Chicago. and if he was related to Albert King, (he's not) and if he knew lighting Hopkins. and if he ever got to play with Stevie Ray Vaughn. All in all he was very kind, graciuos, generous, and tolerated all om my insesant qustioning. lol

but one of the last questions i asked him was who he thought were the top 5 guitar players were from the past 25 years, excluding him self of course.

and here are the names he gave me. In no piticular order.

Eric Clapton
Jimmy Hendrix
Steavie Ray Vaughn
"That Eddie Van Halen kid" Lol Direct quote
Jimmy Page

So acording to BB King in 1993 those were the top 5 guitar pickers of the last 25 years. Ecluding himself.

out side of BB and the ppl listed above i've got to meet,

Whoopi Goldburg
Gen. Harrold "Hal" Moore
Hank Williams Jr. (several times, He's from here & hunts here every season)
Brodie Croyel (former QB for U of Alabama Now with the Chiefs or redskins cant remember)
David Allen Coe (total @sshole, played at a club i was working at as a bouncer. my job for the night was to guard his bus.boring)
Willie Nelson, who was every bit as cool as BB.
But you need a guided escourt from Cheech or Tommy Chong to get back off the bus cause you cant find your own way off with all the smoke.
And Quiet Riot. which was *yawn* an experiance.

ojcar1971
03-02-2007, 08:14 AM
People, music are not just technical ability, if so, the best musician can be a computer programmer. It's relative easy to be a technical genious. Just practice, practice, and practice... but this not make you a real musician. A guitar player have to be soul, feeling, personality and creativity. Feeling can't be learned practising, you have it or not. Is Angus Young a technical prodigy? not, but he have tons of feeling. This makes him a superb guitar player. Same for Hendrix (who's better, of course because his ability to create songs).
Different kinds of music need different kinds of mussicians. Pavarotti singing "Smoke on the water"?, Otis Redding singing "Macarena"? Janis Joplin singing "Madame Butterfly"?, Maria Callas singing "I wanna be your dog"?
Hendrix were a great rock and blues musician, and you must compare it with rock and blues musicians.
No one has named the great Rory Gallagher. He was a monster of feeling and a true master on slide guitar.

Blutarski2004
03-02-2007, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by partic_3:
Mmmm... I agree with the notion that Hendrix was not a technical prodigy. There are far more precise players. He was a creative genius. I have noticed in the past that some people simply don't comprehend creativity. It's like trying to explain colour to a blind person. I think him one of the most original songwriters in pop history; and he was a pop musician. Pop, in my opinion, is not a genre rather it suggests a freedom from the generic. His inventiveness, the freedom to create music never before imagined by a human being, marks him as a truly remarkable artist.
Some of his live recordings are pretty awful, in my opinion. But some things, like The Star Spangled Banner that he did at Woodstock quite simply transcended the very concept of music and have never been reproduced by anyone since. He was not "a guitar player"... he was an artist of rare brilliance, whose medium was sound, mostly produced on a guitar.


..... You pretty much sum it up for me. Technical precision is great - for producing nice elevator music. But no great musician ever made it strictll upon technical ability. There has to also be a spark of inspiration and creativity in the playing. Hendrix had a house fire of inspiration ... heroin fueled, perhaps ... but a huge amount of inspiration and creativity nevertheless.

I can vividly recall the first time I heard Hendrix's music. It was surreal, in the sense that I was unable to relate it to anything else I had ever before heard. It was eye-goggling, rivetting stuff.

Hendrix's later stage stunts should not detract from his music. The WHO had practically made guitar destruction de rigeur for any live stage performance.

As a matter of fact, the WHO are another group who blazed their own unique musical trail.

Heavy_Weather
03-02-2007, 08:56 AM
Jimi was great but there were a whole bunch of better guitarist: John McClaughlin, Wes Montgomery, George Benson, Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Django Reinhardt.


thats just a few. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

onebox33
03-02-2007, 08:57 AM
No reason not to like different kinds of music.
no doubt but may be that it's something of deeply wrong compare eggs with apples...
and i also don't understand the meaning to post in a discussion of Jimi's fans, not a simple
"i don't like his music" but
"his music is a mess" tout court...
great show http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

zyotich
03-02-2007, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by Heavy_Weather:
Jimi was great but there were a whole bunch of better guitarist: John McClaughlin, Wes Montgomery, George Benson, Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Django Reinhardt.


thats just a few. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

It's apples and oranges, Wes, Joe Pass, etc. are all amazing, but they couldn't play like Jimi. And Jimi sure couldn't play like them.
To me, music is vital because it brings into being a range of feeling and thought which cannot be expressed in any other way.
Jimi Hendrix is not Mozart or John Mclaughlin and that's OKAY! In fact, it's terrific. We all know what happens when technically gifted but emotionally shallow folks emulate their idols note for note...it's boring.
I'm happy to say I love music of every stripe; to me it's not the structure or the instrumentation or even the technical prowess. In fact, it's hard to say just what it is that attracts or repels me about music, but if I was forced to give it a name I might say it was sincerity, a deeply personal commitment to the power of the Muse to express what cannot be contained in words alone. Franz Liszt to Tuvan throat singing (and of course Jimi Hendrix)if it is capable of unique and powerful expression, I will probably enjoy it.

Scen
03-02-2007, 11:07 AM
Originally posted by Heavy_Weather:
Jimi was great but there were a whole bunch of better guitarist: John McClaughlin, Wes Montgomery, George Benson, Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Django Reinhardt.


thats just a few. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Better? Funny word... In what way are these greats better than Hendrix? Apples and Trash Trucks. You can't really compare players like that. Hendrix will always be Hendrix and to this day he has is mark on Rock and Roll History.

Some people criticized guitar technique which I can tell you from a Player's perspective Jimi was quite the player but he like all blues players he improvised and very rarely did he play songs the same way twice live. If you think his technique was all slop then you haven't attempted to play some of his music. It's not easy and he did some really cool things that are his and his only.

He was always attempting to do something new and creative. Remember the era we are talking about. It was about breaking away from the norm and freedom of expression. Rock and Roll was so new still and you had so many creative bands happening then. Beatles the Who Clapton Zep on and on.

In terms of Technical playing Jimmy Page is terrible but my god what songs he wrote. Tie that in to Plant's singing and you can't refuse that Zep will always be a legendary band.

Only in the 80s did the guitar tech guys hit the stage with VH paving the way. Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani, Steve Morse, John Patrucci on and on and on... All of them great guitarist like the ones mentioned in this thread. Better? I don't know how about different and to each his own.

IMO Where it becomes personal taste is when you look at the whole package and get something out of music. Hence why it's so subjective.

Jimi will always be an amazing electric guitar player and writer regardless if people think otherwise. The simple fact is anyone who has picked up a guitar and listens to his music can't dismiss it as garbage. You may not like the style but it's not garbage.

BillyTheKid_22
03-02-2007, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by MrMojok:
Better yet:

P-51=Eddie Van Halen

P-47=Stevie Ray Vaughan

P_11c=Hendrix

Sp1FiReZZ=Angel Harps in Heaven

***edited to add this:***

Motorcycle in Game, if driven by ******=Eric Clapton



P-51= Eddie Van Halen!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



http://www.helicopterpage.com/images/geardown1.gif

scaredycat1
03-02-2007, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by capt_frank:
Check out this at YouTube, Jimi Hendrix in a 12 string:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKL4EdxON-o

Hey, Thank You for shareing!!
Ive been going through all the other Hendrix clips for 2 and one half hours.

I didnt realize so many people remember His genious!

Thanks again, capt_frank definately Made my Day!!

Heavy_Weather
03-02-2007, 04:41 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

Heavy_Weather
03-02-2007, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Scen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Heavy_Weather:
Jimi was great but there were a whole bunch of better guitarist: John McClaughlin, Wes Montgomery, George Benson, Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Django Reinhardt.


thats just a few. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Better? Funny word... In what way are these greats better than Hendrix? Apples and Trash Trucks. You can't really compare players like that. Hendrix will always be Hendrix and to this day he has is mark on Rock and Roll History.

Some people criticized guitar technique which I can tell you from a Player's perspective Jimi was quite the player but he like all blues players he improvised and very rarely did he play songs the same way twice live. If you think his technique was all slop then you haven't attempted to play some of his music. It's not easy and he did some really cool things that are his and his only.

He was always attempting to do something new and creative. Remember the era we are talking about. It was about breaking away from the norm and freedom of expression. Rock and Roll was so new still and you had so many creative bands happening then. Beatles the Who Clapton Zep on and on.

In terms of Technical playing Jimmy Page is terrible but my god what songs he wrote. Tie that in to Plant's singing and you can't refuse that Zep will always be a legendary band.

Only in the 80s did the guitar tech guys hit the stage with VH paving the way. Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani, Steve Morse, John Patrucci on and on and on... All of them great guitarist like the ones mentioned in this thread. Better? I don't know how about different and to each his own.

IMO Where it becomes personal taste is when you look at the whole package and get something out of music. Hence why it's so subjective.

Jimi will always be an amazing electric guitar player and writer regardless if people think otherwise. The simple fact is anyone who has picked up a guitar and listens to his music can't dismiss it as garbage. You may not like the style but it's not garbage. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



"You may not like the style but it's not garbage"

wow you just totally assumed that about me. amazing http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

ojcar1971
03-02-2007, 09:02 PM
P-11C rocks!!!

Termitedelight
03-03-2007, 04:16 AM
Move over Rover. Let Jimi take over.

capt_frank
03-03-2007, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by Termitedelight:
Move over Rover. Let Jimi take over.

Despite its sexual overtones, the song ("Fire") had an innocuous origin, stemming from a cold December night in England when the band didn't have a gig, Noel Redding, bass player for The Jimi Hendrix Experience came up with the idea to have Jimi as a guest at his mothers house. Upon arriving, Jimi asked her if he could stand next to her fireplace, she agreed, but her Great Dane was in the way, hence the line, "Aw, move over, Rover, and let Jimi take over..." ("Electric Gypsy").

DuxCorvan
03-03-2007, 12:04 PM
Ockeghem, Monteverdi, Purcell, Bach. Those are musical geniuses.

Jimi is just OK for being in a dim lighted bar full of smoke, half drunk, late at night.

I like Hendrix in a kind of bohemian self-abandonment, but not the kind of thing I'd choose for my private pleasure.

If you want to hear how to make a masterpiece from a messy assort of sounds, hear the motet "Spem in alium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQdoab92tw&mode=related&search=)" by Tallis, or the "Missa Salisburgensis" by Biber, not that skilled feedback guitar player -but mediocre song writer, his best songs not by him.

And for virtuosism, Vivaldi is the man, and coloratura (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ojM4fb7HuY) singers the answer.

onebox33
03-03-2007, 08:06 PM
yes...and don't forget the greatest Amadeus!

...but nothing of related with the discussion and you can try to lissen also music from the present http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

hotspace
03-04-2007, 05:40 AM
Hendrix was god and know one ever would replace or be as great as he was but I noticed in some of these lists here no one has mention Brian May. Ok Eddie V.H etc are really great players and Jimmy P & Eric C are almost god like but listen to some early May stuff from the 1970's and he makes sounds with his guitar which I've never really heard anyone make before or since - Heard 'Good Company'? 'Get Down Make Love'? His Live 'Guitar Solo'? Or most things on the 'Queen II' album or the following 3?

Could never understand why he isn't in most cases in the Top 10 Guitar Players of all time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Monty_Thrud
03-04-2007, 05:53 AM
Jimmy Page was Gods dad. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/partyhat.gif

DuxCorvan
03-04-2007, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by onebox33:
you can try to lissen also music from the present

Jimi Hendrix is not music of the present, and he's as dead as Amadeus. Or more.

But if you refer to Pop-Rock, I'd hear CCR better than Jimi, anywhere, anyday.

onebox33
03-04-2007, 11:07 AM
Jimi Hendrix is not music of the present, and he's as dead as Amadeus
Jimi is the story of rock&roll...rock is a musical genre from past century, when music died... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

DuxCorvan
03-04-2007, 02:13 PM
Thank God Jimi lived too soon to be a hip-hop freak. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

onebox33
03-04-2007, 05:03 PM
Thank God Jimi lived too soon to be a hip-hop freak.
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Ishmael932
03-05-2007, 02:14 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by onebox33:
you can try to lissen also music from the present

Jimi Hendrix is not music of the present, and he's as dead as Amadeus. Or more.

But if you refer to Pop-Rock, I'd hear CCR better than Jimi, anywhere, anyday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Copperhead: Much respect. The first record I ever bought was "Indianola, Mississippi Seeds" by B.B. King. Containing the best blues song of all time,"Nobody Loves Me But My Mother And She Could Be Jivin', Too."

I grew up in the SF Bay Area in the '60s through the '90s. I actually had tickets to the Berkeley show in the film but didn't go because my girlfriend couldn't go. Bonehead decision. What you have to understand about Jimi was that he truly was,"The Brother From Another Planet". When he was playing rhythm guitar for King Curtis in the early '60s, the rest of the band thought he was so weird, they ditched him in the middle of the Midwest.

But when you listen to Electric Ladyland for the first time & realize that people like Stevie Winwood and Clapton are on the record, it's pretty amazing, even after 40 years. What he may have lacked in technical competence, he more than made up for in pure creativity. Watch Monterey Pop sometime. I never saw any technical gaffes in anything I saw him play & I've seen the best, from Clapton,Page, Beck,Peter Green, Frank Zappa to Andres Segovia.

His style and genius are singular and I daresay he is an influence on some level of every subsequent guitartist.

Dux: I actually saw Creedence Clearwater Revival in 1984 at the Lucky Lion Restaurant in Walnut Creek, Ca. My ex-wife & I had stopped there for dinner after a movie where I had to use the necessaries. Passing by the Banquet rooms, I heard what sounded like a really great cover band of CCR. The sign on the door said,"El Cerrito High School Class of 1964 Reunion". I peeked my head through the door & it was John & Tom Fogerty, Stu Cook & Doug Clifford playing their high school reunion. I went & got my ex-wife where we proceeded to crash the reunion and rock the night away. It was the only time they ever played together after the official breakup and Tom Fogerty passed away 3 or 4 years later.

Blutarski2004
03-05-2007, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Ishmael932:
What you have to understand about Jimi was that he truly was,"The Brother From Another Planet". When he was playing rhythm guitar for King Curtis in the early '60s, the rest of the band thought he was so weird, they ditched him in the middle of the Midwest.

But when you listen to Electric Ladyland for the first time & realize that people like Stevie Winwood and Clapton are on the record, it's pretty amazing, even after 40 years. What he may have lacked in technical competence, he more than made up for in pure creativity. Watch Monterey Pop sometime. I never saw any technical gaffes in anything I saw him play & I've seen the best, from Clapton,Page, Beck,Peter Green, Frank Zappa to Andres Segovia.

His style and genius are singular and I daresay he is an influence on some level of every subsequent guitartist.


..... Sums up my opinion very nicely.

Hendrix was no composer, but he was a magnicient interpreter of music. It is difficult to grasp his impact in that respect without understanding the particular musical landscape of the time.

ojcar1971
03-05-2007, 08:01 AM
Hendrix WAS a composer. Clapton, Page and Green have much more versions from other artists than Jimi had.
Jimi had "All along the watchtower" and "Hey Joe" from other people, but also had Voodoo child, Purple Haze, Fire, Axis: bold as love, Machine gun, Little wing.... and much more composed by himsel in a very brief period of time.
And he has ability too. There are many things he developped for guitar playing that have become standard today (and because this you think are normal). In his time these things weren't standard

DuxCorvan
03-05-2007, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Ishmael932:
Dux: I actually saw Creedence Clearwater Revival in 1984 at the Lucky Lion Restaurant in Walnut Creek, Ca. My ex-wife & I had stopped there for dinner after a movie where I had to use the necessaries. Passing by the Banquet rooms, I heard what sounded like a really great cover band of CCR. The sign on the door said,"El Cerrito High School Class of 1964 Reunion". I peeked my head through the door & it was John & Tom Fogerty, Stu Cook & Doug Clifford playing their high school reunion. I went & got my ex-wife where we proceeded to crash the reunion and rock the night away. It was the only time they ever played together after the official breakup and Tom Fogerty passed away 3 or 4 years later.

Wow! Now that must have been so... rockin'! Did they play the CCR years stuff? I heard John Fogerty never did that for money because he didn't want to give Fantasy Records a dime: he hated that company so much. But I guess this was a private kinda thing. Just awesome. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

BTW, "Axis: Bold as Love", I really liked that album. It's the one where Jimi is most creative, IMHO.