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Abeonis
09-01-2010, 12:59 AM
For a game about assassins, I must say this particular tidbit caught me as being odd that it wasn't in-game when I first thought of it; not that I'm trying to demean the efforts Ubi put into the animations that exists already. ANyways, to my point.

As you see time and time again in movies, when somebody assassinates someone in public, the now-dead man usually collapses onto the assassin; in Assaassin's Creed and the sequel, this does not happen. Granted, when Altair and Ezio performed low-profile assassinations of their main targets, they usually pushed the body away and fled, but for guards however, this was not the case.

Basically, what I'm thinking is this: why not include an animation wherein the assassinated body collapses onto Ezio, Desmond, or whoever, and then give the players the option to either push the body onto the ground, or drag it to a secluded place. We know such an animation is possible from Ezio's bench assassination animation, and it would also give an extra sense of realism to the games.

Of course, a few animations would need to be created... like, victim facing the assassin, victim with his back to the assassin, but all in all, I think it would be a worthy addition.

EzioAssassin51
09-01-2010, 01:11 AM
Lol, in what movies does this happen?

And what's with the choice thing? Either way you're gonna need to push off the body.

I don't think so though, because these guys stab then run. They wouldn't stab, get fallen onto, have to waste 5 minutes trying to push a heavy body off of them and then run, while a horde of guards try to kill him while he does it!

Abeonis
09-01-2010, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by EzioAssassin51:
Lol, in what movies does this happen?

And what's with the choice thing? Either way you're gonna need to push off the body.

I don't think so though, because these guys stab then run. They wouldn't stab, get fallen onto, have to waste 5 minutes trying to push a heavy body off of them and then run, while a horde of guards try to kill him while he does it!

Isn't part of being an assassin being stealthy? The whole point is too kill the target, without anyone noticing. By shoving the body away, you drawing attention to the very thing you want to keep secret.

As for the choice option, I understand that some players might not necessary want to be forced into holding the body, and so can simply leave it to fall to the ground.

EzioAssassin51
09-01-2010, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by Abeonis:
Isn't part of being an assassin being stealthy? The whole point is too kill the target, without anyone noticing. By shoving the body away, you drawing attention to the very thing you want to keep secret.

Here, you pretty much contradicted yourself.

If a dead body falls on you, and you have to push it off, you're going to have less time to get away, in which time you could be seen.

And they don't shove the body away, they just let it fall.

And who would choose to have the body fall on them so they would waste time in having to push it off?

BTW, you didn't answer my question about the movies!

Abeonis
09-01-2010, 01:53 AM
Originally posted by EzioAssassin51:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Abeonis:
Isn't part of being an assassin being stealthy? The whole point is too kill the target, without anyone noticing. By shoving the body away, you drawing attention to the very thing you want to keep secret.

Here, you pretty much contradicted yourself.

If a dead body falls on you, and you have to push it off, you're going to have less time to get away, in which time you could be seen.

And they don't shove the body away, they just let it fall.

And who would choose to have the body fall on them so they would waste time in having to push it off?

BTW, you didn't answer my question about the movies! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No I didn't... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Also, pretty much any movie with an assassination. But if you want specifics, the first the comes to mind is Casino Royale, when Bond kills Alex Dimitrios.

EzioAssassin51
09-01-2010, 02:24 AM
Yes you did!

Having to push a heavy body off of yourself could reveal your cover, because it could take a few seconds to do, in which time, someone could see you!

And i don't remember, but was Bond even assassinating the guy (i seriously don't remember so don't bag me for it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif)

Abeonis
09-01-2010, 08:05 AM
If you insist, I'm eager to hear over peoples opinions on the matter though...

Yapster11
09-01-2010, 03:38 PM
I know what your saying but it's kind of dumb. Dragging a body across the street to hide it so no one will see you and be alarmed at you killed the man? Don't you kind of expose yourself when dragging the body across the street? The only time hiding the body is suitable they already have...when you are in a haystack, kill a guard, and pull the body into the haystack with you.

Caligula__
09-01-2010, 03:47 PM
lol I think thats the point

You reveal yourself whilst trying not to reveal yourself

Edit - Yeah it's funny but stupid http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

gsosolid
09-01-2010, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by gsosolid:
Don't worry mate, I understand exactly what you mean!

Already in Assassins creed, you can pick up dead bodies and throw them in haystacks. And you can do this in broad daylight btw.

But why can you do this? So the body doesn't alert the other guards. It isn't there for fun (although it is kind of fun)

Another example of what you could do with the "drag body" feature would be when you're on a roof top, lets take the misison in AC2 were you go to your fathers prison cell window as the scenario. When killing the guards, by running away leaving him there, someone will turn around and see the dead body, and put the guards on alert.
But with this, you can just dragged the body into a corner where it would be harder to see.

Yes, it would do exactly the same thing as just picking the guy up and throwing him in an alley way, which is already possible in the game, but it would make it more fluid.

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Good idea, it SHOULD have been something which was already in the game from AC1, seeing as it supposed to be a stealth game. I don't think it's something which we should cry about but it is would definitely make sense to add this.

Abeonis
09-02-2010, 04:10 AM
To be honest, if this feature did end up being included, and you decided to celebrate by using it, and then dragging the body across the main street, in full view of the guards and every other person in the city, instead of simply around the corner so the body is outta view. You're an idiot, and you deserve to get swamped by fifty guards whilst having to lumber around with a corpse on you.

gsosolid
09-02-2010, 10:26 AM
So I guess none of you have played Splinter cell ey...

HorizonShadow
09-02-2010, 03:23 PM
I love the splinter cell series.
Except that SC follows linear level progression,static spawn points, static ai trails etc.

I have to disagree with this feature you want. I would much rather get my *** out of there then give the nice dead body a kiss.

HybridVermilion
09-02-2010, 10:18 PM
I understand what the OP is talking about, but I think the "dragging the body move" would be for the bodies of guards and other collateral damage to prevent more guards from hunting you down. Once the primary target is down, a quick escape would be the way to go.