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WOLFMondo
01-31-2005, 04:53 AM
This post is out of some recent frustration from playing online...

*Join Teamspeak, Most of the best DF servers have a TS server, the details are on the mission breifing or there website and its an invaluable tool, even if you don't have a mic, you can listen in to whats going on and form up with those on TS. Theres tools called TSDisp and TSoverlay available at sourceforge which allow you to see who's talking while playing to make things easier.

*Don't jump in front of planes trying to get a kill, try to help them and watch there 6 and in turn they will be grateful, they will not be grateful if you jump in and try to get a few meagre hits on the plane there chasing and firing upon, messing up there shot, potentially causing a collision or even worse being shot down by your team mate by accident as you fly into there line of fire. Joining TS will help you avoid this problem and if your that bothered about kills, you get more opportunities on when on TS.

*When being persued try to help the person trying to save you! If your in a 109 being chased by a Spitfire and theres a 190 trying to help you, don't turn like its going out of fashion, the 190 can't follow, the Spitfire can. See where im going? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. It helps if your on TS if you really need help..just say your grid, number pad, height, speed, heading and persuer. Help will arrive with some communication and coordination.

*Finally, if you fly red all the time, try flying blue for a week and vice versa and learn to appreciate no plane is uber...well maybe the D9.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

WOLFMondo
01-31-2005, 04:53 AM
This post is out of some recent frustration from playing online...

*Join Teamspeak, Most of the best DF servers have a TS server, the details are on the mission breifing or there website and its an invaluable tool, even if you don't have a mic, you can listen in to whats going on and form up with those on TS. Theres tools called TSDisp and TSoverlay available at sourceforge which allow you to see who's talking while playing to make things easier.

*Don't jump in front of planes trying to get a kill, try to help them and watch there 6 and in turn they will be grateful, they will not be grateful if you jump in and try to get a few meagre hits on the plane there chasing and firing upon, messing up there shot, potentially causing a collision or even worse being shot down by your team mate by accident as you fly into there line of fire. Joining TS will help you avoid this problem and if your that bothered about kills, you get more opportunities on when on TS.

*When being persued try to help the person trying to save you! If your in a 109 being chased by a Spitfire and theres a 190 trying to help you, don't turn like its going out of fashion, the 190 can't follow, the Spitfire can. See where im going? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. It helps if your on TS if you really need help..just say your grid, number pad, height, speed, heading and persuer. Help will arrive with some communication and coordination.

*Finally, if you fly red all the time, try flying blue for a week and vice versa and learn to appreciate no plane is uber...well maybe the D9.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

AWL_Spinner
01-31-2005, 05:21 AM
Quick question as I've heard this a few times online without being elaborated on -

When you say "number pad" I assume that means a 3x3 grid within your grid square? So "E4, num pad 7" means the North West corner of grid E4?

Thanks!

Von_Zero
01-31-2005, 05:28 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
Quick question as I've heard this a few times online without being elaborated on -

When you say "number pad" I assume that means a 3x3 grid within your grid square? So "E4, num pad 7" means the North West corner of grid E4?

Thanks! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, this is what it means, you split the grid by analogy with the numpad on your keyboard

MEGILE
01-31-2005, 06:34 AM
ummm no thanks, I'll stick to airquake in my Spitfire.

/sarcasm

VF-29_Sandman
01-31-2005, 06:36 AM
even if they were on ts, some still dont listen. those that dont, and are known to be on ts, mebby u should switch sides on both ts/flight, and work that goober over hardcore.

WOLFMondo
01-31-2005, 06:56 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Megile:
ummm no thanks, I'll stick to airquake in my Spitfire.

/sarcasm <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bah! You'll get yours, I owe you one from yesterday.:P

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by VF-29_Sandman:
even if they were on ts, some still dont listen. those that dont, and are known to be on ts, mebby u should switch sides on both ts/flight, and work that goober over hardcore. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats there choice if people don't listen but at least they've made the attempt to participate in the most simple and effective method of human interaction, communication via speech.

MEGILE
01-31-2005, 07:10 AM
Yeah there was some good comms work yesterday on TS.

Fehler
01-31-2005, 08:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
no plane is uber...well maybe the D9.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uber plane; marshmallow guns.

willyvic
01-31-2005, 12:42 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
This post is out of some recent frustration from playing online...

*Join Teamspeak, Most of the best DF servers have a TS server, the details are on the mission breifing or there website and its an invaluable tool, even if you don't have a mic, you can listen in to whats going on and form up with those on TS. Theres tools called TSDisp and TSoverlay available at sourceforge which allow you to see who's talking while playing to make things easier.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Couldn't agree more WOLFMondo. TS is a must in my book. Not only does it allow you to communicate in real time it also adds to the immersion factor. Having a teammate call a bogey on your six will definetly get the heart pounding. And clearing someone's six after a call for help is satisfying to say the least.

P.S. We be one for one mate. Cya in the skies. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WV

nickdanger3
01-31-2005, 12:50 PM
Like somebody mentioned a while ago, even if you don't want to spring for the mic, still download TS and listen in...valuable info being shared on those comms!

Akronnick
01-31-2005, 09:58 PM
The Mic is worth the money! Not only can you use it for TS, You can also download Shoot 1.6 and use Voice control offline, You can give the AI commands without taking your hands off the stick.

KGr.HH-Sunburst
01-31-2005, 10:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fehler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
no plane is uber...well maybe the D9.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Uber plane; marshmallow guns. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

agreed, if the Dora was uber more people would fly
it ,there are a few Dora jocks around on servers like WC GG and F16 and only a handfull who are succesfull in it as in A2A kills which is basicly the whole point on those servers

BBB_Hyperion
01-31-2005, 10:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Von_Zero:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AWL_Spinner:
Quick question as I've heard this a few times online without being elaborated on -

When you say "number pad" I assume that means a 3x3 grid within your grid square? So "E4, num pad 7" means the North West corner of grid E4?

Thanks! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, this is what it means, you split the grid by analogy with the numpad on your keyboard <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats intresting i normaly use a similar system but consisting of Sector E4 then NW N NE W SW S SE E no indication is middle field .

tsisqua
02-01-2005, 07:05 AM
You know, one of the chief reasons that people don't see me online any more than they do is that I really can't use TS until the wee hours of the night. You see, I have children that require alot of attention, and like all good kids are, they are very noisy. So, I have been online at WC a couple of times without TS turned on, but I never really thought about just putting on the headset, and just listening. That is a very cool idea, and my apologies to all who may have found me worthless because I couldn't hear the simple instructions: "Tsisqua, drag him, I'll get him before he nails you!". Someone gets on my 6, and because I can't communicate with my mates, all I have as an option is wild evasion, and we all know how that always ends up: if the pilot on your 6 is any good at all he will take you apart.

I think that you guys will see me more now, if you don't mind me having to type a bit. I'll be listening http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thanks, great post. Be it out of frustration, or whatever, you have helped me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif Quite honestly, I have felt like an @ss every time that I have been online lately. You can ask some of the pilots from the 20th FG, and they will tell you "Tsisqua isn't a bad pilot.", but I sure feel like one when I can't work as a team player. But I am definitely no ace . . . I would rather work with a team than to go out on a mission like Hartdreyer, all on my own.


Thanks A Million!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif,
Tsisqua

sunflower1
02-01-2005, 08:32 AM
I need some help with basic TS issues so that I can improve my play.

First, I am on dialup and my ping runs in the middles 300's with enough jumps to the low 4's to keep me off WC, though I play other servers fine. (If I'm warping, its hard to tell, I seem to be where people are aiming!) Dialup won't last forever, I'll be on broadband at some point reasonbly soon, so don't cast me down the river yet.

If I use TS to listen, am I putting a big bandwidth hurt on myself and others as far as smooth play goes?

Any dialup users with suggestions?

I can't type and fly at the same time yet...

Owlsphone
02-01-2005, 09:17 AM
Sunflower - surprisingly comms doesn't take up as much bandwith as youd think. Also, Teamspeak has an option to allocate a certain amount of bandwith to comms if you're on anything less than broadband.

Tsisqua - You'd be amazed at how much easier flying is online if you'd just listen to TS. I know you can't talk and that stinks, but it doesn't stop you from communicating through chat. Just notify your team through chat that you're on TS and listening. When they wing up as a group, let them know you want to join in and it'll be much easier from then on.

If someone gets on your six, your wingmen will know that you can hear them and will be able to warn you or give you break instructions.

One final statement. There is much talk of immersion on these boards. To me there is nothing more immersive than battle radio chatter. Pilots yelling out locations of enemy planes or a guy screaming for help when he's got an enemy glued to his six. If you have sound coming out of your computer in one way or another there is no excuse to not be on TS.

WOLFMondo
02-01-2005, 09:19 AM
In the settings panel theres a up and down bandwidth limit selection. You can restrict the traffic right down to a few K's if you choose to but quality will suffer allot.

LilHorse
02-01-2005, 09:36 AM
Yes, I used to run comms while I had dial-up (I've since upgraded to DSL) and I had very few problems relating to using them. Try it. I'll bet it works out.

BTW, I tried to go to the greatergreen site to get their TS addys but the site seems to be down. Would someone be so kind as to post them please. Thanks.

LeadSpitter_
02-01-2005, 11:37 AM
why does the red team always sound like aussie brit or southern redneck but luft side speaks perfect NY english http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FatBoyHK
02-01-2005, 12:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I would rather work with a team than to go out on a mission like Hartdreyer, all on my own <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder what Hart would say if he see this, lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Extreme_One
02-01-2005, 01:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
why does the red team always sound like aussie brit or southern redneck but luft side speaks perfect NY english http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol

tsisqua
02-01-2005, 07:45 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FatBoyHK:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I would rather work with a team than to go out on a mission like Hartdreyer, all on my own <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I wonder what Hart would say if he see this, lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nobbody has enjoyed Hart's tracks any more than me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I don't want him to think otherwise. His game should show all the aspiring aces that they can rack up high scores without being an @ss about it. However, his game isn't mine. For me its more about reaching an objective than scoring kills. That's more like my game http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Tsisqua