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chunkydora
06-26-2008, 11:25 AM
I've gotten decent with BnZing with the stang, I once downed 3 109s in a mission (but one was definitely heavily wounded pilot). So I decided to move onto the 190, which I have little experience with. Actually, it's what I first started BnZing with, but I soon changed to the stang. I know to handle it gentle, but it still seems to flip around a lot. Obviously, keeping your speed up is very important. Since there are SO many people on this forum who can't stop talking about how it'll never be beat if handled right, I was just wondering if you fellas had any advice.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif Praise be to you all
PS the armament on the dora seems much better for BnZing than the stang's. The 50 cals generally require a couple seconds of firing to bring down a plane, which isn't great if you are coming down really fast.

Brain32
06-26-2008, 12:27 PM
Since there are SO many people on this forum who can't stop talking about how it'll never be beat if handled right, I was just wondering if you fellas had any advice.

Talk is cheap, especially on this forum.
FW190 is not a special plane at all far from it, it's just that more expirienced players can pull nice results with it, players that went level above "more expirienced" will laugh on stories of unbeatable FW's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Here's a short guide:
Good points for FW190A:
- decent speed, not the fastest but faster than most, often quite enough to run away and trust me a good FW190 pilot on a server where Red's are not dumb@ss flying targets will run 95% of time.
- excellent firepower, the best part about FW190A, will come handy for other 5% http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif
- great roll rate, expecially at lower speeds, works good defensively on new Red players, veterans will merely be slightly annoyed
- durability, it a tough nut that lil FW, you will need it though.
Bad points for FW190A:
-manouverbility is virtually non-existent, if opposing Red pilot knows what he is doing you will virtually be unable to manouver with anything Red, you might have a chance vs P47D_late if you are really really good with the Anton
-frontal/gunsight view is in submarine class, really...bah will never get over it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
-high altitude performance is hideous, even against Russian planes you are in serious trouble after 1944 at high alt
-while overall structurally very tough, it's insanely sensitive on any kind of fire in regards to performance degradation. In other words wile your opponent will have to invest some time to you to make an obvious kill, even after first hit, no matter how small it might seem your performance will degrade dramatically(even small wing hit often means -100kmh on top speed)
-very poor level acceleration below 450kmh and horrible ground acceleration
-sustained climb rate ability not even worth mentioning

FW190D9 overall:
-is generally much better, while horizontal manouverbility is better, keep in mind it's only valid for quite high speeds, on the order of 380-460kmh, if you drop below 380kmh again, you are a brick
-speed is increased and now you are in the top class with level speed, sustained climb rate is dramatically better and is on top, right below the usual climb champs the 109 and the Spit, acceleration is also dramatically better, this one is really a fighter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
-other stuff is pretty much unchanged except one horrible thing, armament is reduced, this is the reason I mainly fly FW190A, the gunsight on the Wulfs is just too F'ed up for reduced armament. Maybe it will not influence you as much as it does me, but I noticed my gun accuracy with other planes is double!!! the one on FW's http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Bremspropeller
06-26-2008, 12:32 PM
-manouverbility is virtually non-existent, if opposing Red pilot knows what he is doing you will virtually be unable to manouver with anything Red, you might have a chance vs P47D_late if you are really really good with the Anton

Pretty much wrong.
You actually CAN dance with anything the Reds have - it just takes some practice.

It's always fun to surprise a Red guy who thinks he's seen it all and mix it up with him.
He'll still be stunning when you've sawn his wing off http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Brain32
06-26-2008, 12:41 PM
Pretty much wrong.
You actually CAN dance with anything the Reds have - it just takes some practice.

Ehh..I actually won a close-in dogfight against the SpitIXe in a FW190A8(you can see the track at CWOS), but like I said: "If the Red pilots are not dumb@ss flying targets..."

Bremspropeller
06-26-2008, 02:20 PM
mmkay, agree http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

K_Freddie
06-26-2008, 02:35 PM
Chunky:
With the FW especially(and generally with all a/c), you must fly with full cpit. With a little practice you will eventually 'feel' the plane... and it's a mean beast, but dances better than a P51.

I've flown 'full real' (FR) for years now, and pull off some amazing stunts on a 100% server, but on a open cpit server I'm dead meat.

The +ve comments usually are from FR pilots and the -ve comments from the rest. As always it's a matchup with pilot and plane, and server choice.
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

chunkydora
06-26-2008, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by Brain32:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Since there are SO many people on this forum who can't stop talking about how it'll never be beat if handled right, I was just wondering if you fellas had any advice.

Talk is cheap, especially on this forum.
FW190 is not a special plane at all far from it, it's just that more expirienced players can pull nice results with it, players that went level above "more expirienced" will laugh on stories of unbeatable FW's http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, talk is dam cheap. That said, the La-7 can beat the pants of anything and will never lose of flown right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

K_Freddie
06-27-2008, 05:29 AM
Originally posted by chunkydora:
... the La-7 can beat the pants of anything and will never lose of flown right... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Like any plane really.. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

h009291
06-27-2008, 10:20 AM
I like how the La and Spit Noobs whine when you don't turn fight with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

idonno
06-27-2008, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by h009291:
I like how the La and Spit Noobs whine when you don't turn fight with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Just the noobs do that?! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

TinyTim
06-27-2008, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by h009291:
I like how the La and Spit Noobs whine when you don't turn fight with them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I really like how they whine and accuse you of cheating when you outturn them in a 109 or even 190! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

JtD
06-27-2008, 10:50 AM
I like how 190 jocks whine when you shoot them down with a La.

h009291
06-27-2008, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by JtD:
I like how 190 jocks whine when you shoot them down with a La.

Like was mentioned above ... those are the noobs trying to trun fight in a 190 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

JtD
06-27-2008, 02:09 PM
Actually veterans are more likely to whine than noobs.

chunkydora
06-28-2008, 08:26 PM
You people just love to bash pilots of planes you don't like don't you?

That said, those swine who fly stangs always whine when you disable their engine with one shot.

Always.

Seriously.

I swear

To gosh.

Gosh is cooler than god.

The La is cooler than the 190.

It's an analogy.

Like...

They think 190 is god.

And the la is innocent and wholesome

Ok maybe it was a REALLY BAD analogy...