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VikingGrandad
05-13-2007, 07:24 PM
If any of you expert Kaleuns have time, please take a look at the unanswered/unsolved threads in the SH3 Community Technical Help forum. There's quite a few people in there at the moment who need your wisdom!

Thank you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Celeon999
05-14-2007, 03:00 AM
Is there a way to get the Community Manual back up and running ? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

VikingGrandad
05-14-2007, 03:06 AM
I hope so...

I think I have the e-mail address for the guy who hosted it, so I'll send him a message to find out what's going on.

danurve
05-14-2007, 07:04 AM
Anyone have knowledge of 1) how much bandwidth the community manual used? & 2) If the tab on the server is up if then can the data/material be obtained and moved to another host?
I was just thinking I have spare space on mysh3.info server.

VikingGrandad
05-14-2007, 07:22 AM
I'll ask the guy who set the site up, and will let you know if/when I get a response from him.

Can your server run the Wiki software?

VikingGrandad
05-14-2007, 07:31 AM
Email has now been sent...

VikingGrandad
05-14-2007, 07:51 AM
Good news - I've got a response already. I can get a copy of the site from a backup the guy has. It's a little out of date, but there haven't been many changes recently so it should be 98% up-to-date.

Realjambo
05-14-2007, 09:31 AM
Good work VG! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

danurve
05-14-2007, 10:50 AM
Just for the heck of it I looked up wiki-software, good lord what a mess of versions and jazz. Some of which have their own dns problems.
VG; mysh3.info is on a windows based server I can slab near anything requiring asp, java, access, etc., even some limited php although anything more interactive php based may require a linux box. Can you tell me anything more about the back-up/archive format? We can at least look into getting something rolling.

VikingGrandad
05-14-2007, 11:02 AM
Our good friend Minoos looked into this previously. He noted that the software used was mediawiki-1.9.1 (2007-01-24). Does that help?

Feel free to send me a PM with questions you'd like me to ask the to guy who ran the site. He seems happy to help http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

danurve
05-14-2007, 12:50 PM
Actually that does help, but..
It's possible to install mediawiki on a windows host. Getting it to cooperate requires other software and could be a technical headache. Plus my host denies certain php functions unless it's a linux box.
I appologise but regretably it looks as if I need to withdraw my offer unless another solution can be found. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

eertekun
05-14-2007, 04:20 PM
So how can I get the backup for the community manual? Any help will be much appreciated?

VikingGrandad
05-14-2007, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by eertekun:
So how can I get the backup for the community manual? Any help will be much appreciated?

Do you have a suitable hosting environment?

eertekun
05-16-2007, 09:55 AM
Unfortunately no. How big is it? Maybe we can host it on one of the free webspaces.

VikingGrandad
05-16-2007, 10:15 AM
The Wiki software requires certain server services that you won't get on free hosting.

I'm looking into the cost of hosting it myself.

danurve
05-16-2007, 02:47 PM
VG; Ok one more option I would like to toss in. This may depend on how far you have looked into hosting. But I am prepared to move mysh3.info to a Linux environment, and install mediawiki-1.9.1 or 1.9.3 to the box. Question though can you find out the version of MySQL the manual data is on? Unless perhaps it does not matter.
My host recomends 4.1 for new MySQL d/b's, 5.0 is also supported as is 4.0 however 4.0 is 'retired' and cannot be upgraded. But a faq indicated it is possible to export data from 4.0 and import it into 4.1 - your thoughts?

Also a new wiki has been started, hosted on ubrs but is currently blank. My thoughts are it is better to salvage all the material relivant to SHiii and let a new wiki for SHiv evolve. I will await your answer before I contact that webmaster.

VikingGrandad
05-16-2007, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by danurve:
I am prepared to move mysh3.info to a Linux environment, and install mediawiki-1.9.1 or 1.9.3 to the box.

That's very good of you to consider it Danurve http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


Originally posted by danurve:
...can you find out the version of MySQL the manual data is on? Unless perhaps it does not matter.

I've asked the question. I'll let you know as soon as I hear back.


Originally posted by danurve:
Also a new wiki has been started, hosted on ubrs but is currently blank. My thoughts are it is better to salvage all the material relivant to SHiii and let a new wiki for SHiv evolve. I will await your answer before I contact that webmaster.

Makes sense to me - it would take a long time to rewrite the SH3 Community Manual so comprehensively.

Minoos
05-16-2007, 04:42 PM
Tech details, mediawiki requirements : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Installation



* Web Server such as Apache or IIS
* PHP version 5.0 or later (5.1.x recommended)
* Database Server
o MySQL 4.0 or later
o or PostgreSQL 8.1 or later (also requires plpgsql and tsearch2)

danurve
05-17-2007, 01:30 PM
Yes I figgure try to keep it as original as possible. I have mediawiki ready for upload.
I know it says it will run on IIS but only after jumping through hoops and that's I think presuming you have complete control for permissions or at least a VM. My hosting service has also recently depreciated other php functions on windows based hosting because of a php update or security, perhaps both.
So, .. screw that noise. I mean I have another windows host purposely for asp but I have been thinking of a linux box anyway for an RSS Server idea of sorts as a possible way to fund a VM instead of a shared host. Or at least as a way to increase bandwidth and absorb the overhead. Im not a rich guy but I also don't mind a mild charge to a good hosting service for what I want to publish, IF the site and intent is good, true, etc. And that means without clogging it with advertisements, banners, popups or stinkin pornography. I hate that crapp trying to steal space on my screen. Quite frankly I also get disgusted when for example your trying to d/l a mod and said 'free' hosting site forces the user to wade through all that filth to get to it.

VikingGrandad
05-17-2007, 05:39 PM
I'm not as technically knowledgable as you about servers, but I think I understood most of what you said there Danurve http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

So, what's the next step? If you do get yourself a Linux box, once you've got it up and running you could PM me when you're ready to get a copy of the data.

AustinFreeThink
05-18-2007, 07:49 AM
I have resources available for hosting as well. I am very new to gaming and just downloaded SH3. I'm willing to host the site and what ever else I can in exchange for the valuable info contained therein!!

I've got no documentation to speak of, but am really excited to learn as much as possible about the game. I can't even figure out how to retrieve a radio message right now!

So, anyway, I was disappointed to find the community Manual was offline. Anything I can do to help? Like I said, I've got hosting that has the requirements that Minoos and danurve are talking about.

VikingGrandad
05-18-2007, 08:51 AM
Welcome to the forums Austin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Danurve is looking into hosting, but if you already have a suitable server, then maybe he won't need to. Let's see what Danurve decides to do.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif
As for reading your radio messages, press the 'M' key.

This is why we need the Community Manual back online!

AustinFreeThink
05-18-2007, 10:09 AM
Sounds great.

LOL - I was hitting all sorts of keys!
Much appreciated.

danurve
05-18-2007, 10:23 AM
VG; PM sent. Awaiting info.

If all goes well we could have the manual back on-line shortly after I have the d/b.
I was thinking since the former link was "communitymanuals.com/shiii" and mysh3.info is already prefixed with sh3, how about a sub-domain? Something like:
communitymanual.mysh3.info ?
otherwise a standard folder such as:
mysh3.info/communitymanual

Thoughts?

VikingGrandad
05-18-2007, 10:46 AM
Thanks Danurve. I'll respond later when I get home from work.

As someone who works in the web industry, my preference is for a directory, rather than a sub-domain. Directory addresses are more conventional than subdomains, so are easier to remember (most web users have got used to prefixing addresses with 'www.')

@AustinFreeThink - it looks like Danurve has got the goods now, but thanks for offering your server as a possible host.