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BARONVONRKENROK
05-26-2005, 08:27 PM
Ivan, maybe you can help clarify this for me, or if anybody can,i'll be greatful.i'm a devoted player and really enjoy playing online especially through hyperlobby(old adicted vef flyer).up until recently was flying almost every night but had to stop because of weird things i was seeing in those dogfight servers.to be more specific ,fighters that are able to go vertical while being chased at 170km while my more adjile plane goes into a stall.i've noticed by the threads here that i'm not the only one to see these strange and impossible manuvers.to add to my misery i've been told by a very savy person that hyperlobby and the way it's been programed ,makes players there highly open to pc attack.after buying a new pc and playing there once a think my pc was tampered with by people who can't enjoy a good fight.sry for rambling for so long but i'm in withdrawl.can you give me your honest feed back ,and confirm if what i suspect is true.is there anywhere else i can fly with a large group of flyers.p.s i do use a fire wall ,but the people that fly there apperently can go them with ease.maybe ubi can creat the same format a protect the integrity of this classic and one of a kind game.i'll never understand why golfers need to cheat,nor why players of this great game need cheat to feel better about themselves.why bother.tks for you assistance.

fordfan25
05-26-2005, 11:11 PM
well i dont know anything about people hacking into your PC threw HL. i would not dout it. i will say how ever i to have seen some stupid junk online in the last while. planes that never lose speed no matter if thay pull streght up in a climb also planes haveing a "ODD" amount of ecelaration ect. some things can be caused by lag but others are clearly some kinds BS. also A-holes that like to hit the print screen when some one is firing on them. i will say iv seen far less of that sorta thing with FB/PF than in games like CoDuty and counter strike source. i thing cheating must be mandatory in those games. the worst case of what i think was cheating happend some time ago in the UBI server. a player who i wont name was buzzing around like a tie fighter geting kills every min or two. i remeber the server had air starts enabled and he would get you at times just secounds after you spwaned in lol. he racked up 6 or so kills in a minute or two it was crazy.

VW-IceFire
05-26-2005, 11:23 PM
Paragraphs please guys...

Anyways, whatever you read bout HL making your PC open to attacks is probably that nutjob that has a personal problem with the fellow who programmed HL and has said a bunch of things that are baseless and meanignless. HL is as dangerous as using Hotmail...maybe less.

The rest is either really good pilot skill (energy management), better control settings on their joystick, lag, packet loss or another variable in the internet equation. It could be cheating but most servers run a very tight series of settings to prevent the known cheats (which are few and far between). This is not a game easily cheated with...that is one thing that its very good at.

R_Mutt
05-26-2005, 11:43 PM
these guys type EXACTLY the same, no spaces after sentences, no capital letters in new sentences. And the one long paragraph ramble. Very coincidental. I'd say two peas in a pod or two minds in the same head.

On the subject, claims of cheat without proof or evidence is pointless.

tigertalon
05-27-2005, 01:58 AM
Hi Baron and FordFan,

are you speaking about ufo-behaving spitfire? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif It happens to all of us all the time, he he.

I still strongly disbelieve code has been hacked. There are some ways of cheating from outside of IL2 code, like induced lags etc... however, can you provide tracks where obvious impossible maneouvres would be performed by players, and not caused by lag? I have never seen one (OK, tracks about invulnerability, but this is clearly a bug, not cheat as we found out).

BTW, Baron, why you hide your identity? This for sure is not your first post... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

BBB_Hyperion
05-27-2005, 07:59 AM
Provide a track http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LEBillfish
05-27-2005, 08:36 AM
AgreeWithWhatYouSayMuttButThereAreMoreIrritatingWa ysOfTypingtAKEfORiNSTANCEmEijUSTcANTmAKEuPmYmIND http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

banhappymods
05-27-2005, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Paragraphs please guys...

Anyways, whatever you read bout HL making your PC open to attacks is probably that nutjob that has a personal problem with the fellow who programmed HL and has said a bunch of things that are baseless and meanignless. HL is as dangerous as using Hotmail...maybe less.




ahhhh yes this is where you are so wrong, ever picked this program apart, or really looked at it and whats in it? im guessing not, or you just dont care, but i will say that HL does have a backdoor to your PC, enabling the mods (maybe only jiri has that access i dont know yet)access to read and write capabilities, rebooting your machine, and basically any kind of access they want. so i suggest that before anyone says some nut job made this up, you need to look into it and have other reliable sources look into it also.

I'm very sure that cheating is a little more common in this game than anyone cares to admit really, but the simple fact that kids dont play this game is why it isnt showing up as blatent cheating. The reason being that kids will blatently cheat just to show off, but a more mature cheater knows how to do it right without drawing much suspicion or attention to themselves............cheating is everywhere be sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

and because all of my posts seem to dissapear i hope this one lasts longer than an hr before someone deletes it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Philipscdrw
05-27-2005, 12:37 PM
Excuse me...

The only person who is claiming that Hyperlobby can hack your PC is Galem Thurber, who knows Jiri in real life and has a personal vendetta against him. Everything he has written, he has made up, and he doesn't post any evidence...

Hyperlobby is safe.

And the chap who made the original post: Just because your aircraft is 'agile' doesn't mean it can climb straight upwards the best. A more powerful aircraft will do that better.

banhappymods
05-27-2005, 02:44 PM
then prove it to me Phillip.............HL is not safe and if ever exploited, will have very dangerous consequenses. isnt it funny though how Jiri never proves that HL is safe, but instead erases all trace of curiosity from anyone........

BaldieJr
05-27-2005, 03:09 PM
I don't keep kiddie porn on my computer so I don't care if Jiri has access to it or not.

JG54_Arnie
05-27-2005, 03:17 PM
Hmm, my PC never miraculously rebooted while I was in HL.. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Philipscdrw
05-27-2005, 03:27 PM
I have had no problems with HL in the last six months. I've been on this forum for - ooh, years and years and years, and I have NEVER heard a single complaint from a HL user - all complaints about HL have come from one source: Galem Thurber and the people who've seen his site.

Jiri provides a free service to the online communities, and I am extremely grateful to him for doing so.

BARONVONRKENROK
05-27-2005, 08:32 PM
tks for your feed back guys.as for the english professors,hope this is better.it was more of a question or looking for confirmation vs a statement.didn't mean to offend anyone.as for mutt,if you need to go around reading forums and picking on people's spelling and trying to insult them, maybe it's time to get a life.

BuzzU
05-27-2005, 08:50 PM
Some of you may be in denial about there being no cheating. Have you forgot this thread already?

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/63110913/m/9161089323

BARONVONRKENROK
05-27-2005, 09:11 PM
oh ,to address tigertalon.this was my first post sir .just looking for clarification from the more experienced.you must have me confused with someone else.no need to hide ,i think?billfish!i don't like your comment ,but after looking at your photo i'll be more than happy to forgive you sweety.

ImpStarDuece
05-27-2005, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by BARONVONRKENROK:
Ivan, maybe you can help clarify this for me, or if anybody can, I'll be greatful. I'm a devoted player and really enjoy playing online especially through Hyperlobby (old addicted V.E.F. flyer). Up until recently I was flying almost every night but had to stop because of weird things I was seeing in those dogfight servers.

To be more specific, fighters that are able to go vertical while being chased at 170km while my more agile plane goes into a stall. I've noticed by the threads here that I'm not the only one to see these strange and impossible maneuvers.

To add to my misery I've been told by a very savvy person that Hyperlobby and the way it's been programed, makes players there highly open to PC attack. After buying a new PC and playing there once I think my PC was tampered with by people who can't enjoy a good fight. Sorry for rambling for so long but I'm in withdrawl. Can you give me your honest feed back, and confirm if what I suspect is true? Is there anywhere else I can fly with a large group of flyers.

P.S. I do use a fire wall, but the people that fly there apperently can go them with ease. Maybe UbiSoft can creat the same format and protect the integrity of this classic and one of a kind game. I'll never understand why golfers need to cheat, nor why players of this great game need cheat to feel better about themselves. Why bother? Thanks for your assistance.


Thanks for your feed back guys. As for the English professors, I hope this is better. It was more of a question or looking for confirmation vs a statement. Didn't mean to offend anyone. As for R_Mutt, if you need to go around reading forums and picking on people's spelling and trying to insult them, maybe it's time to get a life.


Edited (spelling, grammar, punctuation, capitalisation and paragraphing) for your reading pleasure.

I'm not an English professor but I am an English teacher. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

If you want anyone to take you seriously you need to bring a couple of things to the table. Firstly, a basic grasp of punctuation, paragraphing and capitalisation. It's not being picky. The forum are a WRITTEN medium and if you wish to communicate something please try and make it as easy as possible for others to read and understand your point. That means the basic grammar and spelling are in and block text and shortening works (thks, sry) are out.

It will probably strike you as pedantic, old fashioned and unimportant. However, basic writing skills are vital to all areas of life http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

Secondly, in order to be credible you need to be able to bring examles to support your suppositions. Tracks, screen shots and the like. Your specific example is not specific at all. To be spefic you would need to state what plane you were in, what plane your opponent was in, what altitude, relative attitude and maybe hazard a guess on your relative energy states.

Accusations of cheating are not something to be brought up lightly in this community. You need HARD evidence, not just "I've seen weird things" statements. Neither Ivan, as a forum moderator, or UbiSoft, as the game distributor, have any control over the game. You need to adress all queries regarding possible cheats, hacks and the like to 1C games, nothing more nothing less.

Thirdly, thousands of players use Hyperlobby every day. Yours is the second ever comment I have seen questioning its reliability. There are people on these forums and in the community who are highly technically literate. Combine these people with the sheer numbers of players and if anything was wrong with Hyperlobby then I am sure that we would of migrated to another hosting area and more noise would of been made about it. If you really are still worried you can still connect through All Seeing Eye or similar programs.

My honest feedback. I think you have little clue what you are talking about and need to play more and complain less. Actually, honest feed back would probably get me banned here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif.

BARONVONRKENROK
05-27-2005, 09:31 PM
there seem to be a lot of bitter people in this forum. again i state it was a question not a statement.hope you self-important people feel better.

WTE_Ibis
05-27-2005, 11:51 PM
Hyperlobby is dangerous, all your bank accounts were cleaned out just after this thread started. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

x6BL_Brando
05-28-2005, 05:08 AM
there seem to be a lot of bitter people in this forum. again i state it was a question not a statement.hope you self-important people feel better.

You seem to be missing your own point. You write suggesting that difficulies with your own computer are not the result of user error but the fault of mischievous hackers operating through Hyperlobby. Lots of people are writing back to say that, like me, they have spent thousands of hours in Hyperlobby without any detrimental effects. It's not about bitterness or self-importance, it's about defending a guy who has devoted an enormous amount of his time and energy to providing a free Lobby for all of us flight-sim nuts. You infer that "a very savvy person" has told you all about the supposed weaknesses, but you don't give us any details or hard facts to work with, just a disorganised and incoherent rant.

You shouldn't be surprised at getting jumped on over this kind of scatter-gun approach.

JunkoIfurita
05-28-2005, 05:30 AM
Hyperlobby is dangerous, all your bank accounts were cleaned out just after this thread started. Frown Hammer

Just as long as all that extra dirty cash goes into upgrading Dusta's server, then it's all good mate http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

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