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Mercanario
07-15-2008, 07:29 AM
.....are sadly not compatible http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

does anyone know if there is a similar utility that works in vista?

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-15-2008, 10:17 AM
Do you have all the related software set to run as admin?

mortoma
07-15-2008, 02:12 PM
This is why I don't understand all the people in this forum that are switching to Vista. I just got a new PC in April and made sure it had XP on it.
Plus the simple fact of the matter, Vista uses a lot more RAM memory and it has a lot larger footprint on a hard drive too!! Don't need it, don't want it. I plan to hold onto XP until at least 2010 if not 2012. I became such an adept expert at Win98, I was able to get some installs to last as long as three years. And IL2 ran flawlessly on those installs.

I successfully held onto Win98 XP until early this year and it did everything I wanted it to. And that included the most up to date internet streaming. You name it, it did it up to the bitter end.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-15-2008, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by mortoma:
This is why I don't understand all the people in this forum that are switching to Vista. I just got a new PC in April and made sure it had XP on it.
Plus the simple fact of the matter, Vista uses a lot more RAM memory and it has a lot larger footprint on a hard drive too!! Don't need it, don't want it. I plan to hold onto XP until at least 2010 if not 2012. I became such an adept expert at Win98, I was able to get some installs to last as long as three years. And IL2 ran flawlessly on those installs.

I successfully held onto Win98 XP until early this year and it did everything I wanted it to. And that included the most up to date internet streaming. You name it, it did it up to the bitter end.

Well, good luck with that....

Pyrres
07-15-2008, 03:29 PM
Personally since I got Vista for free from my school I had dual boot for 5moths, then deleted XP. It was just plain ugly and not so user friendly and all. And for some reasons I get better frames in IL2 with Vista install.

Mercanario
07-15-2008, 06:08 PM
well i opted for vista as support for xp will eventually caese and probably leave it vulnerable to hackers , viruses and what not, but yeah vista is a pain..ive had trouble installing il2, cant install BOB WOV at all, even problems with FSX addons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

WTE_Galway
07-15-2008, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Mercanario:
well i opted for vista as support for xp will eventually caese and probably leave it vulnerable to hackers , viruses and what not, but yeah vista is a pain..ive had trouble installing il2, cant install BOB WOV at all, even problems with FSX addons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Due to the complaints about Vista and slow penetration into the corporate world MS have reluctantly extended XP support until 2014.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsy...?articleID=208800494 (http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208800494)

Part of the reason for this is Vista is really totally unsuited to older systems and (unlike gamers) many corporate customers replace machines on a 5 year or longer cycle.

Ba5tard5word
07-16-2008, 01:00 AM
Yeah it doesn't work, the guys who made Stab need to make a version that works with Vista.

I have probably 25 pc games and all but one work on Vista. Vista doesn't make me say "wow this is sooo much better than XP" but it hasn't caused me any problems at all either.

tagTaken2
07-16-2008, 04:24 AM
Is there a particular reason that you need Il2stab?

I mostly used it for markings, and Il2Mat is immeasurably better.

Il2Stab is a useful tool, but most of the rest of its functions, from memory, can be done with conf.ini edits.


I'm another who won't be upgrading to Vista. It doesn't support several hardware bits I need, so the hell with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-16-2008, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by tagTaken2:
I'm another who won't be upgrading to Vista. It doesn't support several hardware bits I need, so the hell with it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Why does everyone blame the OS for this? Is it Microsofts job to write drivers for every piece of hardware ever made? Write to the hardware maker and ask them why they have not bothered to write a driver for your hardware, you'll get a lot better results than complaining to Joe Everybody on the internet about how vista didn't do the hardware makes job for them....

Xiolablu3
07-16-2008, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by mortoma:
This is why I don't understand all the people in this forum that are switching to Vista. I just got a new PC in April and made sure it had XP on it.
Plus the simple fact of the matter, Vista uses a lot more RAM memory and it has a lot larger footprint on a hard drive too!! Don't need it, don't want it. I plan to hold onto XP until at least 2010 if not 2012. I became such an adept expert at Win98, I was able to get some installs to last as long as three years. And IL2 ran flawlessly on those installs.

I successfully held onto Win98 XP until early this year and it did everything I wanted it to. And that included the most up to date internet streaming. You name it, it did it up to the bitter end.

Aww man, Windows 98 was AWFUL.

XP has been 1000 times better since its release IMO, as its based on WIndows NT, rather than the terribly unstable WIndows 95/98/ME.

I would agree with keeping XP, as Vista is a bloated mess of bugs right now (possibly better in the future), however Windows 98??!? ***shudder*** Absolutely bloody unstable sh*te.

Windows 98 is just blue screens, crashes, hard locks. I can leave XP running for days with no apparant loss of performance, and it REALLY multi-taks, it doesnt just try/pretend to. Even alt-tabbing out a of a game in WIndows 98 usually led to a crash.

Anyway, I will stop now or I will be ranting all day, but if someone told me we all had to go back to Windows 98 right now, I think I would give up computers for a while! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Xiolablu3
07-16-2008, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mercanario:
well i opted for vista as support for xp will eventually caese and probably leave it vulnerable to hackers , viruses and what not, but yeah vista is a pain..ive had trouble installing il2, cant install BOB WOV at all, even problems with FSX addons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Due to the complaints about Vista and slow penetration into the corporate world MS have reluctantly extended XP support until 2014.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsy...?articleID=208800494 (http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208800494)

Part of the reason for this is Vista is really totally unsuited to older systems and (unlike gamers) many corporate customers replace machines on a 5 year or longer cycle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I hope they incorporate more than 2gb per application in XP in the future, but I guess they wont. Its their way of ensuring that people have to upgrade from XP eventually.

WOuld you guys reckon it would be possible for MS to alter XP to allow more than 2gb per app without too much trouble? Or is it a genuine limit they have hit which would need an entire rewrite in order to update it?

WTE_Galway
07-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by Xiolablu3:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mercanario:
well i opted for vista as support for xp will eventually caese and probably leave it vulnerable to hackers , viruses and what not, but yeah vista is a pain..ive had trouble installing il2, cant install BOB WOV at all, even problems with FSX addons http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Due to the complaints about Vista and slow penetration into the corporate world MS have reluctantly extended XP support until 2014.

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsy...?articleID=208800494 (http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=208800494)

Part of the reason for this is Vista is really totally unsuited to older systems and (unlike gamers) many corporate customers replace machines on a 5 year or longer cycle. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


I hope they incorporate more than 2gb per application in XP in the future, but I guess they wont. Its their way of ensuring that people have to upgrade from XP eventually.

WOuld you guys reckon it would be possible for MS to alter XP to allow more than 2gb per app without too much trouble? Or is it a genuine limit they have hit which would need an entire rewrite in order to update it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just so you know ... Vista 32 is also limited to 2Gb ram its a "feature" of 32 bit operating systems.

Actually both XP and Vista 32 bit can be modified to access 3Gb but only for application specifically designed for it.This is the microsoft link for enabling 3Gb access in XP ...

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx

Both XP 64 and Vista 64 access far more than 2 Gb but in this case Vista is the better choice as XP 64 has a bad reputation for both stability and driver support.