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nvrsummer2
04-12-2005, 04:35 PM
If you own a burner for dvd or cd read this thread
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=857101043&m=9841007703&r=5331017703#5331017703

nvrsummer2
04-12-2005, 04:35 PM
If you own a burner for dvd or cd read this thread
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=857101043&m=9841007703&r=5331017703#5331017703

Cavalier889
04-12-2005, 04:47 PM
Strangely enough, this is not an issue with all DVD/CD writers. I installed mine on a DVD +/- RW and play it on the same drive with no issues whatsoever. As to breaking the drive, I don't know how any game could physically damage a drive, but if it installed, you might try removing the Starforce drivers. If you poke around a bit, there are links to Starforce driver removal tools. I believe there is also a link from Starforce that says if you are having trouble, they will work with you to solve the issue. Yes, UBI tech support aught to be slapped for that email, which is a) not helpful, b) fairly rude, and c) obviously incorrect (re: my DVD writer works fine). But take a deep breath and either return the game or look for solutions here. If UBI is reading this, get your support act together, eh?

axeman3d
04-12-2005, 04:51 PM
I had an 8x DVD/CD writer before I bought the game, and it worked just fine. I recently bought a brand new 16x DVD/CD Writer and guess what? It works just fine again, no problems here at all. Must just be specific brands or firmware that the poxy protection program has difficulty with. Cant fault that protection if it stops people playing the games, although I think maybe preventing ALL people, even those who spent money on it, is a backwards step. The idiots!

nvrsummer2
04-12-2005, 04:52 PM
[QUOTE] I believe there is also a link from Starforce that says if you are having trouble, they will work with you to solve the issue. QUOTE]

Could you point me to this?? Please and thanks for the reply. Also I have tried the removal tool and no good. Are there diff versions of this removal tool? Maybe I have an older one.

BobTuck
04-12-2005, 04:52 PM
Really nice conning tower artwork there Cavalier!

ImmunityZ
04-12-2005, 05:04 PM
Here's my take:

First off, I installed the game on a Sony DRU-710A Dual Layer DVD/CD all combinations burner. No hitches with Starforce.

However, Ubisoft made a HUGE mistake via switching to the atrocious, spyware in everything but name copyprotection system of Starforce 3. While it won't PHYSICALLY damage your drive, systemside its a known fact that it causes conflicts with all sortsa stuff cd/dvd drive related.
Starforce basically installs itself as a set of hardware drivers on your system, has the ability to muck with IDE settings, and a buncha other stuff. While I personally never experienced any negative side effects from it, they do indeed exist.

All Ubisoft is doing is causing honest customers a headache. SH3 was pirated within four days after retail release. So much for stopping piracy huh?

Too bad they signed a contract with SF3 now, and will most likely be using it exclusively from now on.

nvrsummer2
04-12-2005, 05:17 PM
If i get all this sorted out and my drive working again, you can be sure ill get crack or nocd if i can....even though i paid for this game...Way to send me to the pirates UBI!!!

CRULL
04-12-2005, 05:43 PM
Who in their right mind is gonna puchase a plain DVD player? Especially if you have a smaller case with only so many external drive bays.

"DVD ONLY" does not mean no DVD-RW's. That means it's not available on CDROM. Because so far most games have been released on CDROM, but in this rare case it is not. So they made it a point to specify that on the box.

The only problem I have with Starforce is the un-needed wear and tear on the drive, and the extra time it takes to check.

With the storage we have now there has to be a better way then this.

Bubblehead1948
04-12-2005, 06:14 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif There may be an element of truth to at least some of this. I purchased a dvd/cd-rw combo exclusively to run this sim. After reading these posts, I decided to test out the functionality of cd portion of the drive. The results are not good. Some games run ok. Many others no longer do. Anything that requires a cd in residence such as
Call of Duty
Rainbow Six
Athena Sword

can be installed, but no longer played. I haven't figured it all out yet, but if I uninstall SH 3 and the cd function returns then
I guess my suspicions will be confirmed.
Fortunately, I have an extra late model cd-rw sitting on the shelf, but the whole point of purchasing the dvd/cd-rw combo was to eliminate the need for two optical drives.

This ticks me off.

CRULL
04-12-2005, 07:50 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bubblehead1948:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif There may be an element of truth to at least some of this. I purchased a dvd/cd-rw combo exclusively to run this sim. After reading these posts, I decided to test out the functionality of cd portion of the drive. The results are not good. Some games run ok. Many others no longer do. Anything that requires a cd in residence such as


Call of Duty
Rainbow Six
Athena Sword

can be installed, but no longer played. I haven't figured it all out yet, but if I uninstall SH 3 and the cd function returns then
I guess my suspicions will be confirmed.
Fortunately, I have an extra late model cd-rw sitting on the shelf, but the whole point of purchasing the dvd/cd-rw combo was to eliminate the need for two optical drives.

This ticks me off. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just remember that even if you remove SH3. Starforce is still installed AFAIK. You need to manually remove it with the remove software.

KiwiVenge
04-12-2005, 08:26 PM
It has caused no troubles with my DVD read/write. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
It is a LiteOn

Cavalier889
04-12-2005, 11:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nvrsummer2:
[QUOTE] I believe there is also a link from Starforce that says if you are having trouble, they will work with you to solve the issue. QUOTE]

Could you point me to this?? Please and thanks for the reply. Also I have tried the removal tool and no good. Are there diff versions of this removal tool? Maybe I have an older one. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The thread where I saw that quote is here. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=2881085392&m=8631081492)

In that thread, one StarForce_ says:

Dear gamers!

If you have any disk/key problems, or, as you think, its connected in any way with StarForce Protection !PLZ! do not run in to store to bye new drives! Just ask UBI support for help.

We work together to help you.

Thank you!

However, since you've already talked to UBI support, I wonder if their commitment to solving the issue is up to the task. At the top of the thread UbiRazz has a link to their support page. If that's the one you already tried, your might try the StarForce site. Here is a link to their support site. (http://www.star-force.com/protection.phtml?c=70)

They say talk to the software provider's support, but maybe if you send enough emails, it might help. I'd keep bugging UBI until I got something helpful too. Their 'you're out of luck, buy a new drive' tact is unacceptable. Good luck!

Cavalier889
04-12-2005, 11:07 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BobTuck:
Really nice conning tower artwork there Cavalier! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you BobTuck http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif