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Schwarz.13
10-29-2008, 12:42 PM
It seems there is now another set of pedals on the market for flight simmers (albeit extremely wealthy flight simmers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif):

Tarmac Aces (http://www.valiant-studio.eu/tarmac/html/en/hangar.php)

http://www.valiant-studio.eu/tarmac/html/images/hangar/1_13.jpg

http://www.valiant-studio.eu/tarmac/html/images/hangar/2_13.jpg

http://www.valiant-studio.eu/tarmac/html/images/hangar/3_13.jpg

and with two types of pedals - Luftwaffe (leather straps available on request) or Modern Jet:

http://www.valiant-studio.eu/tarmac/html/images/hangar/mini_12.jpg http://www.valiant-studio.eu/tarmac/html/images/hangar/mini_11.jpg

Very very nice but price tag is ludicrous! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

JG52Uther
10-29-2008, 12:59 PM
The price is a joke.

VF-17_Jolly
10-29-2008, 01:03 PM
nice products stupid prices

someone made there own LW pedals had pictures and plan somewhere

Urufu_Shinjiro
10-29-2008, 01:44 PM
Is that a typo? Do they mean 600 euro or do they really mean to say 1,600 euro?! I think it's a typo as there is a space after the 1, 1 600.00.

mmitch10
10-29-2008, 01:52 PM
I don't think it's a typo, I added the pedals to my shopping cart and when I checked out it still said €1600...ouch. I didn't complete the purchase!

Having said that, they do make high quality stuff if you can afford it.

MaxMhz
10-29-2008, 01:56 PM
No typo.
This tarmac gear does not come cheap.

DuxCorvan
10-29-2008, 02:21 PM
Buying that costs 1600€ and probably your marriage. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

b2spirita
10-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Thats mad, do they actually sell any of those?

DuxCorvan
10-29-2008, 02:53 PM
That's something I wonder, too. Looks like they do those things just to show off. I doubt they're really going to sell more than two or three -if they do. They're not going to make real money with those prices.

P.FunkAdelic
10-29-2008, 02:54 PM
That Luftwaffe Throttle and Stick is pretty cool. If I were a millionaire I'd buy that for sure.

x6BL_Brando
10-29-2008, 04:20 PM
I'm just going to paint some stripes down the side of my rig and make believe I'm an ace pilot, and get by with recalling that my flight-gear controls a PC, not a frigging airplane! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

B

Stiletto-
10-29-2008, 08:26 PM
Hey I'm all about expensive top end stuff, but the price is ridiculous. In racing sims the expensive stuff with real racing equipment and hydraulics etc costs less than that for a full driving set, I've never seen pedals, racing or rudder cost more than about 600 dollars without anything else. You can get a full motion simulator for 8 grand.. Still, they look pretty sweet!

WTE_Galway
10-29-2008, 08:58 PM
Clearly not toys for kids.

I am sure some people will pay the price.

I know of people that spend thousands of dollars a year on golf club memberships and equipment.

I know someone that races open wheelers for a hobby. God knows what that costs. Motocross bikes are not much cheaper.

For that matter I know of people that spend about $100 a week ($5000 a year) on alcohol and cigarettes.

As for real flying, just keeping your license current can cost a few thousand a year.

Money is all relative.

Fehler
10-29-2008, 09:06 PM
Pedals for the price of a fair used car...



I think I will stick to my homemade all steel constructed Hall Sensor driven jobbies I am building... Plans to come in the Stickbuilder thread...

Now if you are interested...Check out this site.

http://www.schreinerschmid.com/11501.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*

The owner (Hans Schmidt) is a very nice fellow! It looks like he is making a FW190 type throttle now. He will tell you that his KG13 grips are not exact replicas. They are single molded units and not put together from a large number of replica parts like the Tarmac Aces one. But for $400 less, all you will be really missing is a spring loaded trigger/guard. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif I was able to get my hands on one of the prototypes and it has a nice ergonomic feel and functioning like the real KG13. I had an opportunity to sit in a 109 many years ago, and as best I can tell it is very similar!

Hans seems quite personable and I have had a great time getting to know him more and more over the past few months. At least take a look at his site. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-29-2008, 09:56 PM
They better do a lot more for me other then control the yaw of the plane to justify that price. Ill stick with CH. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-29-2008, 09:57 PM
Money is all relative.

Very true.

P.FunkAdelic
10-30-2008, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by Fehler:
Now if you are interested...Check out this site.
Fascinating. Can you buy these? Definitely a long term dream to get something like that.

Nice link.

TX-EcoDragon
10-30-2008, 02:11 AM
Their stuff looks good. . .no doubt, but the prices aren't just expensive, they are crazy.

For that money, they dang well better be perfect - the same for their stick, but the sad fact is, they don't even have any force system. . .no FFB, not even a spring, nothing. . the stick just moves freely! So a 20 dollar wall mart joystick with a spring on it actually has a more realistic attribute than a $2,000 joystick?!!??!?! That just isn't right!!

R_Target
10-30-2008, 02:13 AM
Somebody's gotta pay for that milling machine.

VV_Holdenb
10-30-2008, 02:28 AM
VF-17_Jolly wrote "someone made there own LW pedals had pictures and plan somewhere"

I think its these ones, look similar to above
plans are good:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/382...531097844#9531097844 (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/3821084134?r=9531097844#9531097844)

See post by Soko_1 rudder pedals by Baloo of Esquadrylia Serafimov (www.serafimov.com):

LEBillfish
10-30-2008, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
Money is all relative.

Naw I asked the relatives too, they aint got any...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

K2

general_kalle
10-30-2008, 04:30 AM
i dont mean to offend anybody but people who buys stuff at such prices is not just in possesion of too much money but also a little stupid. no way that they will be worth that much.
might be the best on the market but its still not worht THAT much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

P.FunkAdelic
10-30-2008, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by general_kalle:
i dont mean to offend anybody but people who buys stuff at such prices is not just in possesion of too much money but also a little stupid. no way that they will be worth that much.
might be the best on the market but its still not worht THAT much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
There is always a premium for the best of the best.

Value in such a focused and esoteric hobby can relatively speaking for one person be literally priceless. No doubt there are a few anti-social trust fund babies out there that get off not by hounding lovely vixens in the Soho clubs but from shooting down greenhorn pilots on Hyperlobby.

WTE_Galway
10-30-2008, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by P.FunkAdelic:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by general_kalle:
i dont mean to offend anybody but people who buys stuff at such prices is not just in possesion of too much money but also a little stupid. no way that they will be worth that much.
might be the best on the market but its still not worht THAT much http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif
There is always a premium for the best of the best.

Value in such a focused and esoteric hobby can relatively speaking for one person be literally priceless. No doubt there are a few anti-social trust fund babies out there that get off not by hounding lovely vixens in the Soho clubs but from shooting down greenhorn pilots on Hyperlobby. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

At a certain point money isn't really an issue any more.

There is a guy in our local aero club who bought a Cessna Citation as a TOY to take his family to the coast on weekends. Admittedly he traded in his Queen Air to pay for it .. but still it isn't even online for hire, during the week it just sits in the hangar.

Schwarz.13
10-30-2008, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by LEBillfish:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
Money is all relative.

Naw I asked the relatives too, they aint got any...... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

K2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Now Billfish, that was a good joke - but you already have a great pair of 'parallelograms', and they didn't come cheap either i'm sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(awaits disciplinary PM from moderator)

Jaws2002
10-30-2008, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by b2spirita:
Thats mad, do they actually sell any of those?

What this people sell fits in the cathegory of:

..." There's a sucker born every minute, all you have to do is find him." http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Fehler
10-30-2008, 09:39 PM
Actually, the Tarmac guys charge a lot for their KG13 grip. But, they tooled up to make the thing exactly like the original. The owner said that he sells the stick for nearly the cost or manufactuing it. I only have to take his word at it.

But, there is no way these pedals cost 1600 euro to make!

If so, perhaps Tarmac needs to learn about this little country they can outsource to.. it's called China.

bolox00
11-01-2008, 07:38 AM
before i comment on the pedals let me state that i'm one of the 'idiots' that own both the tarmac KG13 stick and throttle and am happy with both http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

now 1600 is alot of dosh and at that price maybe not many will buy them- it certainly looks like i'll be keeping my simpeds for a while given the current economic climate http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
that said i'm all for any attempt by hobbyists trying to bring such products to the market- particularly if they use local small manufacturers to source parts from http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif- but i don't want to get too off topic here.

control gear always seems to bring out a 'diversity' of opinion so why not a diversity of products?
if nothing else it gives some of you something to ***** about http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

ElAurens
11-01-2008, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by VMF-214_HaVoK:
They better do a lot more for me other then control the yaw of the plane to justify that price. Ill stick with CH. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

+1

YAKMAN1968
11-01-2008, 06:26 PM
See those little gas springs on it? I make them (not the ones in the pic) they arnt cheap but the arnt gold either. We have 6 CNC mills at work...... wonder if I could con the boss into making some????

blairgowrie
11-01-2008, 06:36 PM
Please check PT's YAKMAN. Your Forum Sig needs to be adjusted.