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FlatSpinMan
05-01-2006, 10:47 AM

FlatSpinMan
05-01-2006, 10:47 AM

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-01-2006, 10:52 AM
I like it.

Freelancer-1
05-01-2006, 11:01 AM
Don't bomb, don't care.

Longpo
05-01-2006, 11:03 AM
I haven't started a campaign yet but I have been messing about with the new ships.

The PE-3BIS is my favorite so far since I'm a sucker for twin engine Fighter/Bombers.

I want to learn how to use the bombsight before starting a Pe-2 campaign but that could take a while.

Might start the new Il2 campaign first.

Not bad for a ten quid I say http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ElAurens
05-01-2006, 11:09 AM
The Pe2 and Pe3 are very nice. I like them a lot.
Landing is a bit dodgy because they like to be fast, but otherwise I really enjoy flying them.

With good fighter cover they are very effective truck convoy killers, and the Pe2 is very good at pinpoint strikes of critical installations.

Glad it is on my hard drive. Can't wait for the IL 10 and Ki27.

Be sure.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

No601_prangster
05-01-2006, 11:16 AM
The campaign is great fun. I finally got around to learning level bombing so I could play the the Kurst campaign and so far I've survived the first few missions.

Makes me want to build a Mossie campaign. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Lovely job on the modelling Agamemnon.

FlatSpinMan
05-01-2006, 11:54 AM
I know what you mean about making you want to fly a Mosquito campaign. I don't usually fly twin-engined jobs but there was something very satisfying about running away from trouble in tight formation, just barely skimming the waves and tree-tops at maximum speed.
I'll have to get the hang of this level-bombing thing (or even dive-bombing, for that matter). Any pointers, anyone?

GerritJ9
05-01-2006, 01:57 PM
I bought this add-on for two main reasons: 1) to support 1C and 2) because it is required to install the Manchuria addon (SE Asia is my main interest). But now that I have it, I gave the Pe-2 and Pe-3 a spin anyway. I have to admit that they are much more fun than I expected. One thing I did was fly the Pe one-on-one against a Me-110G in QMB, then try flying the Gustav against the Pe. Normally I don't fly twin-engined jobs very much, but these duels were great fun. They seem quite evenly matched, the Pe being a bit more responsive to the controls and the Gustav having better firepower. Next thing on the list are the campaigns when I have finished what I am currently flying. Probably will do the MiG-3 campaign first- always enjoy flying that aeroplane- and then the Pe campaigns.
Nice one indeed, 1C and RRG! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Low_Flyer_MkVb
05-01-2006, 02:33 PM
Try a Pe3 v Mossie in QMB - then Mossie v Pe3 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

joeap
05-01-2006, 05:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Freelancer-1:
Don't bomb, don't care. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Fighter pilots make movies, bomber pilots make history"

Swivet
05-01-2006, 05:29 PM
The more flyables the better. Just another great add-on to an already great sim. I am not really a bomber online tho, but wtf it's fun to fly just the same, i'll take it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JG54_Lukas
05-01-2006, 09:06 PM
I love it. I've always been a fan of ground attack planes, so this addon was perfect for me. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Not to mention those excellent new ground objects!

MucusG
05-01-2006, 09:57 PM
I remain lukewarm at best about the content. A bit of fun but I dont think I will be flying the Pe 2/3 in a weeks time at all.

However, I am happy to have paid my cash to help Oleg and crew. I will look foward to the next addons, which seem more my cup of tea.

GAU-8
05-01-2006, 11:10 PM
i only bought it because it was an add on for IL-2. personally i dont care whats on it.. but i dont really see why it was a "pay for"..? maybe i missed what makes it "special" as a pay for add on.. the cockpits give me the same feeling of the OLD 109 pits in original IL-2. and the textures seem kinda bland. im not saying i could do any better, but for 20 U.S dollars, im prety much let down. again, ill gladly pay for addons for this fine sim, just to keep "up to date". but i wont do it online again. too much hassle, for somone to install a legit copy. its B.S. like this that causes players to get something by "other means"

3.JG51_BigBear
05-01-2006, 11:54 PM
I kind of like flying the Pe-2/3 but I doubt I'll look at it again after the "newness" of it wears off. Looking forward to the other addons a lot more than this one.

Aardvark184
05-02-2006, 12:02 AM
I voted Big Fan... as far as the Star Wars reference, I really think the Pe-2 looks like an A-10. If the engines were mounted high and aft on the fuselage, and it had some kind of nose cannon, it would be a respectable Warthog. The overall look is very close.

Cheers!
Tim

Kapteeni
05-02-2006, 01:57 AM
I bought it because im waiting new maps+ patches+ support Oleg and team and Finnish Airforce did use captured Pe:s. And the addon has Finnish skins already!!! New ground Objects are great. I`ve been playing Mig campaign. Love the intros!

WOLFMondo
05-02-2006, 02:34 AM
The Pe's are uber!1!2

Definately prefer them to the other light twins. They don't have much bomb capacity but there incredibly tough and can turn really well.

AWL_Spinner
05-02-2006, 02:44 AM
Your Pe-2 is incredibly tough?

Every time a German so much looks at mine it starts billowing black smoke and fuel from one of it's paper thin wings before the wing catches fire and falls off!

*sigh*

Great add-on though!

Monson74
05-02-2006, 03:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
The Pe's are uber!1!2

Definately prefer them to the other light twins. They don't have much bomb capacity but there incredibly tough and can turn really well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tough? Have you checked the "Invincible"-button? But they surely are fast & well armed - about the level-bombing: If you go 390 km/h (indicated) @ 1500 meters & set your sight to 50.0 degrees you're pretty much dead on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

fabianfred
05-02-2006, 03:40 AM
being a mission builder I love the new vehicles and guns
the PE-3 bis is a nice convoy killer although it's 20mm isn't much good against tanks... drop a load then as you are pulling out take the gunner's seat and spray away with his gun too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

WOLFMondo
05-02-2006, 05:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Monson74:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
The Pe's are uber!1!2

Definately prefer them to the other light twins. They don't have much bomb capacity but there incredibly tough and can turn really well. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tough? Have you checked the "Invincible"-button? But they surely are fast & well armed - about the level-bombing: If you go 390 km/h (indicated) @ 1500 meters & set your sight to 50.0 degrees you're pretty much dead on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I genuinely think its pretty damn tough. I did a few quick QMB's with a Pe2 and Pe3 attacking and airfield (Moscow map) with just AA and I flew around in circles shooting stuff and dropping bombs, I did get shot up enough to need to crash land but that was after dozens of hits.

I actually quite like both the Pe2 and Pe3. I thought they would disagree with me.

triggerhappyfin
05-02-2006, 05:42 AM
The new flyable PE-2 is a beauty!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

I got the addon as a birthdaygift given to me by my grown up son.

Last night I took it online. It was on Winds of war server. The goal was to bomb naval targets at Anapa harbour. It was a long flight as the Pe-2 base were located a bit inland. I had some issues on take off with full load (2*500 + 2*250). She sure felt heavy and unstable until speed increased enough to stabilaze her.
I headed due west in order to reach the sea and intended to fly in an arch out over the sea. The plan was to reach Anapa from south-west. By doing so the goal was to avoid enemy fighters.
I was climbing all the way past Novorossyesk where I reached the planned 3k.
She was easy to handle, on the trims only, through the climb and arching flightpath. All the time I held a lookout for interceptors. As I passed Novorossyesk and had the town and field in my 8-7 o'clock, I saw a dot coming on countering course at my hight, on my 1 o'clock.

There was som k's between our paths and I could see him turn right in order to reach my 6. I then started a shallow dive to increase my speed. After a while he came into my aftguns reach and I was able to give him a good burst in his nose(a Bf). Ee began to pour smoke...I switched to pilotseat as his tracers began to reach out for me. Doing evasives I was able to dodge the most of his bullets. No major damage were done to my plane. He seased firing and I took a look at the gunners place and saw him loosing speed and loose alt. He was turning inland to try to reach base. Switched back to driversseat and saw Anapa down below 12 o'clock.
I began a new shallow dive towards the harbour when a I passed two fighters appearing from a cloud on my 10 o'clock. One of these began to chase me and I had to do evasives all the way down to target. I was hit in wing either by the fighter or aaa and started to pour fuel. I let the first pair drop on a tight group of tankers at queye and took sight on a lone freighter further out and dropped the remaining pair on that one. The chasing fighter had dissapeared and I turned out the sea at some 600 m of alt.

Half way back to Novorossyesk I was jumped by a FW. I managed to avoid the most of his bullets but one engine started to smoke some. Hits had been on my wings too and the gunner got heavily wounded. All of the sudden the shooting stopped but my gunners kept on giving somebody bursts of fire. Suddenly the FW appeared on my side some 100m on my left. He kept on manouvering close to me on all sides and scissored from left to right and vice versa. In a cats play with a mouse. Apparently he was out of ammo. I tried to get him into my gunsight but he dodged every time. But after a while he got too daring and past under me from left to right appearing in my 1 o'clock and climbing. I tried to follow and managed to get a lead and gave him a long burst that hit him some. Peaces fell off him. But in doing so I lost all my manouvering speed and my plane fell like a brick. Slowly, all too slowly it seemed to me, she gained some speed. The sea came towards me faster and faster...****! I should crasch!! Flaps half the way out I was skimming the sea when she decided to turn upwards again! That was so close that closer would have proven deadly! The FW still were in the surroundings and my further attempts to follow him sure were more cautious. One more time I had him in my sight and were able to deliver a long good bust at him. This time I must have hit something worth hitting as he was slowing down and headed for Novorossyesk base. I took course for the home base on the other side of the bay and half way over I met some LA's heading over. A kill message appeared on the screen...I got him!!

I managed to get her safely on the ground and ended my first flight online with the new flyable with 2 destoyed ships and one fighter killed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

The flight was long and intense and this only flight game me full value of all the wait for this plane and for my sons money. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

JG53Frankyboy
05-02-2006, 05:45 AM
well, to be honest but not whining about it (!) , the content of the Pe2 adon was not much - in comparison to older free adons sometimes.

but, the 4.06, that is something i would call an adon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

"New flyable in Manchuria add-on:

IL-10
A-20C
J2M5
N1K2-Ja
Ki-27ko
Ki-27otsu
Ki-43-II
Ki-43-IIKAI

New AI only:

Ki-21-I
Ki-21-IIko
B6N2
A5M4

2 new maps: Vladivostok area and a small online map.
3 or 4 new static campaigns (one of them for the N1K2 over Japan - not connected with Manchuria, actually)
+ Bug fixes for the Pe-2 add-on as a surplus.

Internal release (aka Gold) is planned somewhere around end of May, or even earlier. I have no idea, when it will get to the public, though.

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Best regards,


SaQSoN (Vladimir Kochmarsky)"

FlatSpinMan
05-02-2006, 08:14 AM
Interesting to read the comments. I agree about it looking like an A-10, in fact I made the very same comment only minutes ago in another thread.