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Yoshimitzu2005
08-15-2005, 04:35 AM
First of i'm very new to simming. So i would like some advice on what joystick to get? Also what's the best training, get online asap and join a squad?

With my current joystick (which is only like a 4 button 2 axis one) I'm finding it rather hard to hit anything at all plus i have to use the keyboard too much which makes my flying horrible.

So if anyone would help out a new pilot please post some basics and advices http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


yoshi

Atomic_Marten
08-15-2005, 04:44 AM
For joystick I am currently using Saitek's Cyborg EVO. It is a good joystick. Don't expect too much, tho. Pedals+HOTAS combo is ultimative solution. HOTAS=hands on throttle and stick... like Saitek's X-45. Make sure that you are using rudder -- it is possible that your joystick do not have rudder control.

About training, train combat in QMB a lot. You may join some squad that way you will probably learn faster.
If you are total newbie you will die a lot online, so you must be prepared for that. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
But like I said, you will learn faster by watching other people's moves online. You may do that easily by recording a tracks, which I will reccomend you to do.

pettera
08-15-2005, 05:55 AM
Start by using easy settings. Otherwise you will be discouraged and find it almost impossible.

Most online aces has been flying for many years several hours a day so they have much more "combat" experience than any real pilot.

To improve your aim and actually see where you hit, edit the config.ini file and set the arcade entry to 1. Then, there will be arrows showing where your bullets and shrapnel from cannons hit. Quite educating. Also recall that hitting with 5% of the bullets is OK. 10% is outstanding. So dont get frustrated if only a few bullets hit.

Target practice on big airplanes such as bombers. You can set their weaponload to empty or use friendly bombers to avoid getting shot to pieces. Attacking a bomber is usually quite deadly.

Good luck. Nice to have you on board.

Petter

Yoshimitzu2005
08-15-2005, 06:05 AM
Wow, thanks for the quick replies and advices. Rudder is one thing i find annoying using with the keyboard so usally i forget to use it at all.

Been thinking of buying the x45 but didn't know if it worked well in il2, anyone got one who can shed some light on this ?

Thanks again, time for some practice http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif



yoshi

pettera
08-15-2005, 07:53 AM
I also use a Saitek EVO and I don't like it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If I were you I would buy a cheap stick first just to see if you like this kind of game/simulation and then go for something more expensive like the X45 + pedals.

Most (cheap) sticks use a rotation of the stick for the rudder instead of pedals. Quite important to use rudder for aligning and aiming. My wife would think I was insane and file for a divorce if I installed pedals under the PC table. So we all have our different opinions and restrictions http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Good luck
Petter

Christos_swc
08-15-2005, 08:14 AM
I have a Logitech extreme 3d pro with a twist handle.
Is all you need to get started.
Actually I've never felt the need for rudder pedals but it's all up to you.
Start a campaign offline to learn how to fly, take off and land and how not to run into the foghter or bomber you're chasing, play QMB to learn the basics of dogfighting and play online to see how different a/c are being flown to take advantage of their particular characteristics and what not to do with them.

Chuck_Older
08-15-2005, 08:36 AM
Originally posted by Yoshimitzu2005:
First of i'm very new to simming. So i would like some advice on what joystick to get? Also what's the best training, get online asap and join a squad?

With my current joystick (which is only like a 4 button 2 axis one) I'm finding it rather hard to hit anything at all plus i have to use the keyboard too much which makes my flying horrible.

So if anyone would help out a new pilot please post some basics and advices http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


yoshi

here is my advice:

Look up aerobatic maneuvers online, in real world applications.

Pick an aircrft in this sim you like. Stick with it. Learn to take off and land, and learn the basics of trimming. Learn about engine management

Now, put the real-world aerobatic maneuvers you learned about on-line to the test. Learn to do them in your FB airplane

Real training roughly paralleled this

Rudder control is going to be key in my opinion. get some type of rudder that is comfortable and easy to use. twist stick, rudder rocker, pedals, whatever

Kuna15
08-15-2005, 08:37 AM
Originally posted by pettera:
I also use a Saitek EVO and I don't like it. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If I were you I would buy a cheap stick first just to see if you like this kind of game/simulation and then go for something more expensive like the X45 + pedals.

That is a good advice. I'll second that.

Tully__
08-15-2005, 09:36 AM
Click the "Joysticks..." link under my signature picture and read the article it takes you to.

Jaws2002
08-15-2005, 09:46 AM
The X-45 alone is not too good now. It has a very bad rudder control. The rocker is a bad solution for rudder in the game right now. I would sugest X45 + Rudder pedals or get X52. X52 has a twisty stick and is more effective then the rocker on X45.