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p1ngu666
12-22-2003, 04:56 PM
ok heres the idea of this thread, we suggest varients of planes that can be easily added to FB. planes haveto be in FB or being made.
for this, there should be a minimal amount of 3dwork and fm changes to put in.
submitted varients should have a brief description on how they are different and changes needed etc. a web link to more info would be useful, aswell as links to books http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rules of the thread are no *****ing and whining etc, lets keep this clean chaps & chappettes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If a dev person has anything to add to the thread or clarify something, please please doso http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. i hope i can edit the thread to update as nessery and/or start a webpage/site to document the varients somehow.

others thoughts are welcome http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
12-22-2003, 04:56 PM
ok heres the idea of this thread, we suggest varients of planes that can be easily added to FB. planes haveto be in FB or being made.
for this, there should be a minimal amount of 3dwork and fm changes to put in.
submitted varients should have a brief description on how they are different and changes needed etc. a web link to more info would be useful, aswell as links to books http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rules of the thread are no *****ing and whining etc, lets keep this clean chaps & chappettes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If a dev person has anything to add to the thread or clarify something, please please doso http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. i hope i can edit the thread to update as nessery and/or start a webpage/site to document the varients somehow.

others thoughts are welcome http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Korolov
12-22-2003, 05:26 PM
P-400 and P-39D.

P-40F. P-40L. P-40K.

Bf-109F-4/B. B-17E/F.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg

faustnik
12-22-2003, 05:53 PM
Fw190A3, A6, A7 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/mdegnan/_images/FaustSig

Blackjack174
12-22-2003, 06:07 PM
how about the twin P51 mustang ?
will be hard to find a cockpit of course...

RAAFVirt75th
12-22-2003, 06:38 PM
PBY (PBN) would be greatly appreciated.

Korolov
12-22-2003, 09:37 PM
Another one - P-47D-35. Some cockpit changes and additional armanent.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg

WereSnowleopard
12-22-2003, 10:17 PM
What's going on? Out of my curious, why you use my idea about new variants for currently FB planes as I posted my idea two days before you?

[This message was edited by WereSnowleopard on Mon December 22 2003 at 09:26 PM.]

Ugly_Kid
12-23-2003, 02:43 AM
Bf-109 F-4/Z also F-4/R1
Bf-109 G-1/U-2 with GM-1
Bf-109 G-6/U2 with GM-1

FW190fan
12-23-2003, 06:04 AM
FW190A-6

FW190F-9 Panzerblitz

More historical loadout options for all Focke-Wulfs please.


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nutt3r
12-23-2003, 06:36 AM
hurribombers like the ones used in north africa and the far east http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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p1ngu666
12-23-2003, 07:27 AM
snowleopard, i missed your thread simpley http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. sorry
this idea has been around for a while tho, i thought a definitive list would be handy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
ill go hunt for your thread now http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

p1ngu666
12-23-2003, 07:32 AM
whoops i actully commented on your thread. loly.
sorry my memmory is crap http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif. please add your suggestions here, having this title and 1 list will be easier http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

269GA-Veltro
12-23-2003, 08:10 AM
Bf 109 G12;
Spitfire MK I, MKII. The same model of Mark V with some little differences.

Rata18
12-23-2003, 09:58 AM
How about:
I-16 tip 10 (weaker engine)
I-15 and I-15bis (predecessors of I-153)

Willey
12-23-2003, 10:10 AM
P-47M http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

FW-190D-12

Yak-9B

p1ngu666
12-24-2003, 05:03 PM
bump
on ukhistory today i heard them same mk2 hurricanes had 8 .50cals or 4 20mm
could be wrong tho :P

clint-ruin
12-24-2003, 09:27 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rata18:
How about:
I-16 tip 10 (weaker engine)
I-15 and I-15bis (predecessors of I-153)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I-153-BS with 4xUBS and better high alt performance.

I-16 T19 with Ultra-ShKAS guns.

Rocket loadouts for the I-16 T18.

Yak-9DD - something nice to keep up with the P-51s or for med/italian maps.

Mig-1 - existing Mig3 model needs a few inches shaved off the nose and straight wings.

Yak-1-Light - ShVAK only armament but superior turn/climb/speed to standard Yak-1.

Yak-7-37 - similar to Yak7/Yak9T but with 2x UBS and 1x MPSh-37 cannon.

Yak9B/9L - Yak9 with bombs.

Yak9-UT - 1945 Yak9U model with 1xNS23 and 2xB20 cannons.

Yak3P - similar to above - Yak3 with 3xB20 cannon armament.

Lagg-3 - other variants of the earlier series would be good for solving some of the whining complaints. Series 11/32 just needs the same armament as the Lagg3 '43 and some performance de-tuning.

La-9 - metal La7, same engine, better armament, similar performance.

A lot of the nice LW and allied planes have already been taken care of, I think .. Ju-87 D5, Ju-88, a few LW x-plane style things like the Gotha and Komet. Barely anyone seems to have looked at doing some of the nicer soviet late-war designs. It would however be excellent to get the P-400/39D, Spit 1a, US Navy F2As, the F-4U and some others.

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LEXX_Luthor
12-24-2003, 10:23 PM
Yak-3T version with 57mm cannon, flown one time, by A.B. Yumashyev, Bless his soul.


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p1ngu666
12-25-2003, 05:57 AM
good lists ppl http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LeadSpitter_
12-26-2003, 03:43 AM
109 g2 with nitrous gm2 boost,
109 g12
p40n
Hurricanes
Mark IID 800
Mark IV 794
Mark V Two conversions from Mark IVs.
Mark X 489
Mark XI 150
Mark XII 398

payloads for the hurricanes

and if we are getting the 109z twin fuselage why not the p-82 the twin fuselage p-51

and what i would like to see the most p47m

and wnat to see what everyone above listed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Uhm the p-82 cockpit photos can be found at http://www.p82.org/ you have to write to them and they will send them to you but dont want them public so people will visit the museum to see

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[This message was edited by LeadSpitter_ on Fri December 26 2003 at 02:56 AM.]

[This message was edited by LeadSpitter_ on Fri December 26 2003 at 02:57 AM.]

p1ngu666
12-26-2003, 02:01 PM
dump
p47 m had a 2800bhp engine from the n didnt it?
i would like that alot http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

p1ngu666
12-27-2003, 08:16 AM
bumpity

clint-ruin
12-28-2003, 05:39 AM
Pe-2 "improvised nightfighter" with onboard searchlights.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/djgwen/fb/leninkoba.jpg

Extreme_One
12-28-2003, 07:22 AM
I want some working flaps on my Hurricanes please.

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p1ngu666
12-29-2003, 02:04 PM
bumpity
cmon lads
109 k6? < nabbed from another thread http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Rattles_UK
12-30-2003, 03:50 AM
Spitfire Mk1/II
early 109B or C with Jumo engine and mg only
109E with added nose cannon
Hurri IID's with Vickers anti-tank guns

VVS-Manuc
12-30-2003, 04:59 AM
Bf 109 E-1 and E-3,
Ju 87 B-1,
Ju 88 A-1,
Hs 123
for 1939/1940 scenarios.
Hs 123 was used until 1943 at the Eastern Front as a ground attack plane)
Hs 126 (german early war reconaissance plane)

(no Bf 109 E had a nose cannon in combat units. The cannon was unreliable, so is was not used in frontline duty)

robban75
12-30-2003, 05:41 AM
Fw 190D-11/12/13/15. And Ta 152C!!!!

p1ngu666
12-31-2003, 07:48 PM
bumpity http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ElAurens
12-31-2003, 11:12 PM
The P/F 82 Twin Mustang shared no structural parts with the P51. True it looked like two P51s stuck together, but it was, in fact, an all new aircraft.

The F82 got the first air to air kills of the Korean war BTW.

http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/fighter/xf82-2.jpg

The Stats:

SPECIFICATIONS (F-82B)
Span: 51 ft. 3 in.
Length: 38 ft. 1 in.
Height: 13 ft. 8 in.
Weight: 24,800 lbs. max.
Armament: Six .50-cal. machine guns, 25 five-inch rockets, and 4,000 lbs. of bombs
Engines: Two Packard V-1650s of 1,380 hp. ea.
Crew: Two
Cost: $228,000
PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 482 mph
Cruising speed: 280 mph
Range: 2,200 miles
Service Ceiling: 39,900 ft

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BlitzPig_EL

p1ngu666
01-01-2004, 10:01 PM
bump

p1ngu666
01-04-2004, 04:16 PM
from the stuka book im readin
more types of bombs, torpedo, drop tanks and machine gun pods and ejectable wheels needed http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
not finished the book yet http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Recon_609IAP
01-04-2004, 05:52 PM
How about an earlier model 190?

S!
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Hot_Space2
01-04-2004, 06:13 PM
The Spit:

Mk I.
Mk II.
Mk Va.
Mk Vb.
Mk Vc.
Mk VIII.
Mk IX.
Mk XII.
Mk XIV.
Mk XVI.

Hot Space

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jagdmailer
01-04-2004, 10:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by robban75:
Fw 190D-11/12/13/15. And Ta 152C!!!!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I will second that! The late D variants would be great as well as the short wing span Ta 152.

Glad that we are getting a Ta 152H veriant but with the way FB handles high altitude flight, we would be better equipped with the C variant IMHO.

JagdMailer
Do 17 - Do 217 - He 177 research coordinator
Omega Squad

p1ngu666
01-08-2004, 07:57 AM
bump
field mod to remove the horns of jericoh on the stuka, good for a extra 20kmph thenhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cossack13
01-08-2004, 09:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
P-400 and P-39D.

Bf-109F-4/B.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

These three would be at the top of my list along with the Hs-123 (although I think we could use the CR.42 as a reasonable substitute if it doesn't happen).

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jagdmailer
01-08-2004, 10:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
ok heres the idea of this thread, we suggest varients of planes that can be easily added to FB. planes haveto be in FB or being made.
for this, there should be a minimal amount of 3dwork and fm changes to put in.
submitted varients should have a brief description on how they are different and changes needed etc. a web link to more info would be useful, aswell as links to books http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rules of the thread are no *****ing and whining etc, lets keep this clean chaps & chappettes http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

If a dev person has anything to add to the thread or clarify something, please please doso http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. i hope i can edit the thread to update as nessery and/or start a webpage/site to document the varients somehow.

others thoughts are welcome http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually I am redoing an early Barbarossa campaign and Jabo Friedrich would be great. I do not think much would be needed to model an Bf 109F-2/B and an F-4/B with ETC250 + 250Kg, 4 X 50 KG, 300 liter drop-tank and the related cockpit bomb panel.

Some more engine options on the late Gustav/Kurfurst: ie. A Bf 109G-10 variant with DB605DC engine option added, G-14/AS, 20mm cannon option on the late Gustav. Bf 109K-4 variant with DB605DC engine option added. Probably not much programming here.....extra 200 hp for both from the use of C3 fuel 100 octane.

An early Fw 190 would be great, such as an A-3 or possibly even an A-2. Fw 190A-6 would be fun too. Fw 190F-9, some properly named Fw 190G series.

Late Doras D-11,D-12 & D-15.......Ta 152C, Ju 87D-5, Ju 88A-17, Ju 88S-1, He 111H-16

Of course, we should be coming up soon with our lot of Dornier Do 217 series bombers (E, K & M), Do 17Z-2 & He 177A-5...http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Cheers,

JagdMailer
Omega Squad

Bogun
01-08-2004, 11:22 AM
A lot of the planes mentioned are definitely coming in add-on or following patch for it, so I will talk only about planes not mentioned as being modeled‚...

I would love to see flyable

Early/Pre war:
I-16 type 10
I-15
Bf109B, D, C
Fiat CR 32
Caudron CR.714

Mid war:
Fw190A-6
Hs129
He177
Yak-9B
Pe-2
Tu-2
F4F Wildcat
F6F Hellcat

Late War/Post war:
Ta-152C
Yak-9UT
La-9
Yak-15
F8F Bearcat
Hawker Sea Fury

Regards,

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p1ngu666
01-08-2004, 01:41 PM
thankyou for these http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
wish a dev would comment on this thread

Copperhead310th
01-08-2004, 02:30 PM
off the top of my head:

FW190 A3- with all load outs
Mustang I , IA, A-36*
{*A-36 Appachee already external model completed by Meshsmoother}
P-51-H & K
F-82 Twin Mustang
P-47 B,C, M & N
B-17,24,26 & 29
Hellcat, Corsair
P-38K
P-61 Black Widow- A, B, & C
FW-200

There are a few more but that's just off the top of my head. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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Oso2323
01-08-2004, 08:41 PM
We have models of the Spitfire IX and XIV coming, but those are rarer versions of these two marks (i.e the pointed-rudder IX and the bubble canopy XIV). We need the standard/round rudder IX (which served from 1942-45) and the standard canopy XIV.

Other easily converted spitfire models:
VII, VIII
Vc with the tropical filter (we could fly Aussie against the Zero!)

Early FW-190's (A1-A4)
Ju-88 Torpedo loads

But my heart is with the Spits IX and XIV.

p1ngu666
01-09-2004, 08:37 PM
quick bump and a copy n paste for us 47 whiners http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
As the German army was pushed closer to the border of their homeland, newer sub-models of the P-47D found their way into service. The P-47D-27-RE arrived with an up-rated engine of 2,430 hp. and Hamilton-Standard propeller. The P-47D-28-RA was essentially the same aircraft, but used a Curtiss Electric prop. Some of the next to last sub-model, the P-47D-30-RE, incorporated a new dorsal fillet at the base of the rudder assembly. Virtually all of the final D model, the P-47D-40-RA had the fillet installed. The loss of side area due to the cutting down of the fuselage (to accommodate the bubble canopy), reduced the linear stability of the bubble topped Jugs. This could lead to a loss of control if rudder deflection was too great at low speeds. The fillet partially corrected this rudder force over-balance condition. It would not be fully eliminated until the final production model of the Thunderbolt. The P-47D-40-RA was the first P-47 to have the new K-14 gunsight installed at the factory. It was also the first Thunderbolt to carry the new tail warning radar equipment.

from http://home.att.net/~historyzone/Seversky-Republic7.html
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PESushi
01-10-2004, 05:50 AM
early version of the Stuka B2 is a MUST !
it was less armored and (I'm not sure) had no self sealing tanks than the version we have in FB now

with this version, much more vulnerable to small cal (like Hurri MkI MGs), we could have accurate battle of Poland/France/Britain missions

I think only the DM would have to be changed over the FB version

Stalker58
01-12-2004, 10:51 AM
And why not He100D if we already have MiG3U and soon gonna get I183...

Altitude, speed, manoeuvre and.... CRASH!

JG53Frankyboy
01-14-2004, 07:34 PM
one of the easiest planes to ad (beside the Fw190A6 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ) should be the Bf109E-7/N !

just take the 3D modell and pit from E-7/B and marrie it witht the flight performance and handling from the E-7/Z (disabled GM1 !).
as skin, use the E-7/Z one http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

e voila, we would have the standart Emil of the later "emil-years" http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

guderian_ente
01-16-2004, 03:09 PM
Bf-109D and E-3 (http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/bf109.html) - Used in Spain and Poland, plus the 109 is one of the stars of the game so it would be nice to be able to follow it's evolution from early on.

I-152 (http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/i-152.html) - Used in the Winter War and well into the Continuation War on the Finnish front. Fixed gear and straight wing sets it apart from the I-153. I-15 (fixed gear but gull wing as on I-153) would be great as well, but I-152 will do.

I-16 Type 10 (http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/i-16-t10.html) - Used in Spain, at Nomohan, and even on the Eastern Front after 1941. Weaker engine and armament than the variants we have in the game. Would love to see Types 5 and 6 as well, but I'll settle for the Type 10.

B-17E and F (http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/research/bombers/b2-19.htm) - No chin turret (except on late-model Es), plus some other relatively minor differences compared to the G model in the game.

[This message was edited by guderian_ente on Mon January 19 2004 at 07:34 AM.]

p1ngu666
01-17-2004, 08:47 PM
good couple of posts. thanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
quadthanks for the links too http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bristolboy
01-18-2004, 12:23 PM
Ilyushin Il 10.This game will never be complete without the final and literally ultimate varient of the Il2.

guderian_ente
01-19-2004, 08:38 AM
Ditto on the Il-10 (http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/il-10.html).

Gotta have the original Beast in the game, plus it would be extremely fitting given the name of the sim. A closing of the circle, so to speak.

However the link I posted says it was "completely redesigned" compared to the Il-2, so maybe it requires an entirely new 3D model? The part about "enough speed and agility to perform active combat again enemy fighters" sounds mouth-watering, but also hints at a completely different flight model.

Oso2323
01-19-2004, 03:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>We need the standard/round rudder IX (which served from 1942-45) and the standard canopy XIV.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I forgot: Reconaissance versions of the Spitfire: PR Mk IV and XI. We could also have PR versions of the Bf109F-6 and G-4 (Cowl mg only)

johann_thor
01-21-2004, 10:13 AM
russian 2-engine bomber

p1ngu666
01-21-2004, 05:44 PM
ta for these
the il10 would deffo need a new model.
it looks like a sleek il2 http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
01-23-2004, 07:15 PM
bump

JG77_Tintin
01-24-2004, 01:14 AM
Here's the really quick, dirty and rough solution for those deperately wanting the early Polikarpovs. With the I-16, over its life, from prototype to type 29, the final fighter version, power was increased by only 12%. (the Bf 109 was 67%) So how about flying the existing I-16 type 18, at 90% throttle to simulate a I-16 type 10. Can do the same thing with the type 24, to simulate a type 17. To simulate the even earlier type 6, use a I-16 type 18 at 90% throttle and ensure that there is no ammunition in the cowling guns. The I-153 series is rather more problematic. The I-152 (I-15 bis) had a different wing structure and the I-15 was much more fragile than either, but more manuverable then the I-152. They both had similar performance and the I-152 wasn't much of an improvement over the I-15. All I can suggest to simulate both of these, are keeping the undercarriage down on both and reducing the throttle settings to 90 & 85% respectively. Don't know how you could enforce any of this and would love to see inclusion of these early Russian fighters within the game.

Nunsuch
01-24-2004, 03:57 AM
Pe 2 is at this point the only plane I miss. If it can't be done I would settle for a Tu 2.

p1ngu666
01-24-2004, 07:52 AM
ta tintin. ive sent a pm to oleg because its been abit over a month now, i think this topic deserves some comments from him or a dev.
keep em coming guys http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

p1ngu666
01-26-2004, 08:40 AM
bumpity

PE_Sushi
02-25-2004, 02:26 PM
bump for hurricane payload and early (BoB)Ju87B2 with less armor and (not sure) no self sealing tanks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

[This message was edited by PE_Sushi on Wed February 25 2004 at 11:32 PM.]

JuanT
03-02-2004, 05:12 PM
Ju52 3mg3e
Desperate for a Ju52 Bomber variant, like Ju52 3mg3e. Needs bomb bays and(optionally)'dustbin' ventral gunner position. Specs and performance apparently identical to existing Ju52 3mg4e in FB except 1,000-1,500 kg bomb load.
Essential for Spain and also used in WWII

WereSnowleopard
04-30-2004, 09:15 AM
BF-109F-4/B for RHAF plus re-corrected bombs types carry by BF-109 variants to more historic like Emil used to carry AB-24T and racks for 96 SD-2(Emil). Also add quad SD 70.

lebobouba
04-30-2004, 09:48 AM
Yes, please don't forget payloads http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/11.gif

WereSnowleopard
04-30-2004, 03:17 PM
How about that plane to be flyable "MORANE-SAULNIER M.S. 406 and 410: Lots of different variations, for example there were in use five different propellers and five different guns shooting thru them. Moranes gained in winter war 14 aerial victories when one MS was lost. In continuation war they gained 121 aerial victories while 27 was lost due to enemy action." http://www.jiop.fi/ksimuseo/planes.html
Plus possible Super Morane aka M√¬∂rk√¬∂ Morane to be flyable?

JG77_Tintin
04-30-2004, 04:34 PM
I'd like to support WereSnowleopard's request about the Moranes. Presently, I'm in the middle of creating a large Swiss campaign and have obviously seen inside and out pictures of the improved Swiss version of the Moranne MS 406H, ie. the D3801. It is in a musuem over there and is credit to the Flugwaffe. Unfortunately (or fortunately), I live in Australia, not Austria, so its hard to pay a personal visit. I wouldn't mind having a crack at modeling it though and am curious about what software program / techniques that are required to adequately do justice to its physical likeness and flight model. In my campaign, I intend to use the standard MS406 for D3800 and the Morko for the D3801. However, is there any way I can use the MS410 skin with the Morko flight model? The D3801 has a fixed radiator and same nose as the MS410, but has an improved Hispano-Suiza 12Y51 and only one gun in each wing, like the Morko. Thanks in advance for any information on this. Hopefully somebody is already working on the Moranes and if there is, then a big thankyou from me.

II/JG77 Tintin

DuxCorvan
05-01-2004, 10:52 AM
Now that all AI fighters are getting flyable, the turn is of Folgore, Moranes and M√¬∂rk√¬∂...

...and why not? Ar 196.

Bf 109D, E-1 & E-3 would be nice. Specially the latter just need minor adjustments in cockpit framing. Decrease a very very little the 109G-2 performance, and you have a G-4.

P-47C & P-38H, the first ones in the 8th AF. The earlier Lightnings just need changes in air intakes.

P.11f, the model exported to Rumania: just different engine cowling and no propeller spinner. P.24, an enclosed cockpit.

I-16 type 10, the most popular of early VVS. It was the most used in Winter War and it was also in Spain.

LaGG-1. There were hundreds of them! It was identical to early LaGG-3, only worst.

MiG-1, with some minor changes to the nodel of MiG-3. 2100 delivered!

The RAF Gladiators, and Sea Gladiator of Malta.

Tropicalised versions of Hurricanes, Spitfires and 109 -adding, for instance, the filters. Most Hurris in Russia wore trop. filters.

It would be great all the new aircraft being included in the extant DGen campaigns both as flyable as for friends/enemies, thus expanding the scope of variables.

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fofosse
05-01-2004, 11:59 AM
I-5 the first fighter of N.N. Polikarpov design which was produced in large series and became the basic in Red Army Air Force in the beginning of 30th. The first prototype VT-11 has made his maiden flight in April 29th, 1930. I-5 fighters participated in the air battles of the initial period of the Great Patriotic War. In total in 1931-1934 were produced 800 I-5 fighters.

Basicaly a I-153 with a Gladiator Upper Wing type. Not Sure if the I-5 saw any action, perhaps with some border skirmishes vs Poland??

Also thumb upp for DuxCorvan proposition of
* P.11f
* LaGG-1
* Mig-1

but a big no too more yankee planes =) This is a east front game. Cant say I like all the US planes whom where not leand leased. Think abt all the exsotic russian/german/italian/french-captured planes we can get instead.

WereSnowleopard
05-01-2004, 12:45 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
Now that all AI fighters are getting flyable, the turn is of Folgore, Moranes and M√¬∂rk√¬∂...

...and why not? Ar 196.

Very good idea! We should get that Ar 196 to be flyable even try on MBR-2 too. We better look up FAF to see what A/C they used most for martine patrol.

Pzyber
05-01-2004, 01:04 PM
Here are a list of a some of known aircrafts that will be included with the AEP add-on!

I-185 M-71
I-185 M-82A
Lagg-3 29 Series
Lagg-3 35Series
Spitfire HF MkIXe
Spitfire LF MkIXc (CW)
Yak-3P
Yak-7A
Yak-9B
Yak-9M
Yak-9UT

Pzyber
05-01-2004, 01:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ******:
Here are a list of a some of known aircrafts that will be included with the AEP add-on! (Patch)

I-185 M-71
I-185 M-82A
Lagg-3 29 Series
Lagg-3 35Series
Spitfire HF MkIXe
Spitfire LF MkIXc (CW)
Yak-3P
Yak-7A
Yak-9B
Yak-9M
Yak-9UT<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pzyber
05-01-2004, 01:05 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ******:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ******:
Here are a list of a some of known aircrafts that will be included with the AEP (add-on) patch!

I-185 M-71
I-185 M-82A
Lagg-3 29 Series
Lagg-3 35Series
Spitfire HF MkIXe
Spitfire LF MkIXc (CW)
Yak-3P
Yak-7A
Yak-9B
Yak-9M
Yak-9UT<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pzyber
05-01-2004, 01:05 PM
Here are a list of a some of known aircrafts that will be included with the AEP (add-on) patch!

I-185 M-71
I-185 M-82A
Lagg-3 29 Series
Lagg-3 35Series
Spitfire HF MkIXe
Spitfire LF MkIXc (CW)
Yak-3P
Yak-7A
Yak-9B
Yak-9M
Yak-9UT

JG77_Tintin
05-01-2004, 05:26 PM
In response to fofosse. The Polikarpov I-5 was withdrawn from front line service and with the appearance of the I-15, most were transferred to training units during 1936. Some were still some around at the time of Barbarossa, being used as fighter bombers, with two bomb racks fitted under the fuselage. These were on the forward airfields of the Ukraine at the start of the invasion. Some were also transferred to naval units, such as the 11th Fighter Regiment of the Black Sea Fleet, at Jankoy Airfield, Sevastapol.
Like yourself, I also prefer the old, obsolete stuff, that saw out the critical early years of the war.

Snuffy_Hadden
05-01-2004, 07:43 PM
Lancaster (all variants)
Hailifax (all variants)
Sterling (all variants)
B-17 E, F, & G variants
B-24 (all variants)

p1ngu666
05-01-2004, 08:36 PM
woah someone saved me some effort http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
please remmber i started this thread for EASY planes to add, thats varients.
someone is making i15 i think
i wonder if that is complete we will get spb with 2x i16 and 2xi15, i think that also had another fighter tho :\ http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

theres a veritable boatload of spits we could have.
and im wondering if we will get more mistel's. there where various ones bulit or designed
bf109/ju88 and 262/262 come to mind

seagladiator with the optional fearsome armament of 6 .303 mg guns http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/59.gif

also good to see no whineing and stuff here still, thanks guys http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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Maj_Death
05-01-2004, 11:53 PM
Bf-110C4/B
Fw-190A2
Fw-190F9
Bf-109F4/B
I-15
P-38F
Bombs for Hurricanes
Me-163B without engine bug
A6M3
F2A
Gladiator

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LIDZ
05-02-2004, 06:55 AM
how about these:
Bf 109E-2 With two 20mm and two 7.9mm guns
Bf 109E-3 With one hub 20mm and four 7.9mm guns
Bf 109E-5 Reconnaissance fighter with two 7.9mm
Bf 109E-8 4 x MG17, extended-range
Bf 109F-1 DB601N, one 20mm (mg/ff) and two 7.9mm gun
Bf 109F-2/B
Bf 109F-2/Z DB601N, With GM-1 boost
Bf 109F-3 DB601E, one 15mm and two 7.9mm guns
Bf 109F-4Z DB601E, With GM-1 boost
Bf 109F-4/R6 extra pair of 20mm MG 151
Bf 109F-5 recon two 7.9mm guns
Bf 109T 40 being built
Bf 109G-5 enlarged rudder; had DB605D with MW-50

Kurfurst__
05-02-2004, 07:37 AM
*109E-1, with 4x7.92mm MG17 guns, important type for 1940
*109F-4s with gunpods (/R1), bomb, droptank
*109F-4 1942, with increased power w. 1.42ata, increased perfomance
*109G-4, minor modifications to the G-2 model, at 1.42ata as per 1943, increased perfomance
*Basic G-10 and G-14 models with MG 151/20 nose cannon
*K-4 with increased boost, 2000HP DC engine, increased speed/climb at low/mid alts.
*Me 410, slight modificiation of existing 210Ca-1 model
*190As with ability to remove outer guns for performance gain

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"We've got the finest tanks in the world. We just love to see the German Royal Tiger come up on the field".
- Lt. Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. Febuary 1945.

"One day a Tiger Royal got within 150 yards of my tanks and knocked me out. Five of our tanks opened up on him at ranges of 200 to 600 yards and got 5 or 6 hits on the front of the Tiger. They all just glanced off and the Tiger backed off and got away. If we had a tank like that Tiger, we would all be home today."
- Sgt. Clyde D. Brunson, US Army, Tank Commander, February 1945

clint-ruin
05-02-2004, 07:58 AM
I forgot about my post back on page 1, damn, from the looks of the beta plane list there's a lot I asked for in it! :&gt;

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p1ngu666
05-02-2004, 04:42 PM
yeah clint http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
i thought this had not been looked at... maybe it was http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

i doubt we will get early 109's tho, i think thats more bob teritory

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clint-ruin
05-02-2004, 07:54 PM
Yeah, also explains why the F2A, P39D/P-400, and other "easy" modifications aren't making it - being done for PF instead.

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Tetrapharmakoi
05-02-2004, 08:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
posted 01-05-04 22:53
Bf-110C4/B
Fw-190A2
Fw-190F9
Bf-109F4/B
I-15
P-38F
Bombs for Hurricanes
Me-163B without engine bug
A6M3
F2A
Gladiator

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Agree with you 200%

DIRTY-MAC
05-03-2004, 06:10 AM
You have all forgot the Fiat G-50!
what about the later variants like the
G-50bis ectr

LeadSpitter_
05-04-2004, 02:00 AM
he111zwiling flyable from one side only
British Mustang III 4 cannons,Its seen combat in europe too
p40b and p40c russia had them
p40n
spitfire mk1
all varients of the hurricane especially the north africa models.
p82 twin mustang
making some of the aircraft like the storch and u2 flyable having the pilot shoot a side arm as a gun turrent position.


making all ai flyable from within the cockpits as a $49-$59 expansion pack.

I see the sales graphs and profit statements from 1c provided by E3 seeing each employee makes over 150,000 a year. Dont you want to add more to that yearly salary.

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p1ngu666
05-11-2004, 09:06 PM
http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/images/smiley/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif @ lead
im not sure if D7/8 stuka is in list, i think only different radiator at front, ill scan/check plans tomoz
also to g2 stuka http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

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NN_EnigmuS
05-13-2004, 08:09 AM
Fw190F9 and F8 with panzerblitz 2
Fw190A8/A9/F8/D9 with drop tank
Fw190D9 with 500kg bomb
Fw190D11/12/13
Bf109G10,G14 with mg151/20
bf109K4 with 2000hp at taking off
Bf109F with bomb and fuel tank
Bf109G with Wgr21 roquet
He111H11
bombs for hurri MkIIc
loadouts for spits
Yak1M
Mig 1
He162 with 2Mk108
Bf109G6 U2 and with Mw50 boost
P40b,c
I15

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jagdmailer
05-13-2004, 08:59 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by NN_EnigmuS:
Fw190F9 and F8 with panzerblitz 2
Fw190A8/A9/F8/D9 with drop tank
Fw190D9 with 500kg bomb
Fw190D11/12/13
Bf109G10,G14 with mg151/20
bf109K4 with 2000hp at taking off
Bf109F with bomb and fuel tank
Bf109G with Wgr21 roquet
He111H11
bombs for hurri MkIIc
loadouts for spits
Yak1M
Mig 1
He162 with 2Mk108
Bf109G6 U2 and with Mw50 boost
P40b,c
I15

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Enigmus,

You forgot:


Bf 109G-10 with 2000 hp (DB605DC)
Bf 109G-14 with 2000 hp (DB605ASC)


The Bf 109K-4 with 2000hp came available with either engines (ie. DB605DC & DC605ASC)

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