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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:44 PM
Follow up to earlier thread.... I want thank all the vets for their recent advice.

I went after Ju-88s, in LaGG-3, in the 1st mission in the Russian fighter campaign in Sturmovik with realistic gunnery on.

Aiming for engines (and not just the tail!) made a difference. Of course, it was also necessary to learn how to get up close, slow down a bit, and do a lot of dodging to avoid rear gunners. I shot down one Ju-88 and assisted in the kill of another. Pretty darn good given that my untutored attack techniques of the past had only emptied all my bullets while simply stripping the paint off enemy planes!

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:44 PM
Follow up to earlier thread.... I want thank all the vets for their recent advice.

I went after Ju-88s, in LaGG-3, in the 1st mission in the Russian fighter campaign in Sturmovik with realistic gunnery on.

Aiming for engines (and not just the tail!) made a difference. Of course, it was also necessary to learn how to get up close, slow down a bit, and do a lot of dodging to avoid rear gunners. I shot down one Ju-88 and assisted in the kill of another. Pretty darn good given that my untutored attack techniques of the past had only emptied all my bullets while simply stripping the paint off enemy planes!

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:50 PM
you're on the right track,

tip1,==> shoot the small oil cooler hanging under the IL2 till you see smoke, it wil go down

tip2==>get as close as you can (100-300 meters) before using cannnons ,

tip3==> train against fighters in the QMB to practice your deflection shooting


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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:55 PM
ditto with above. Practice practice practice

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:56 PM
Another good tip.... thanks. I was definitely opening up with cannons too soon. A waste of ammo.

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 09:07 PM
Try high angles of attack, coming in from almost straight up or head on to maximize the amount of damage to the engines and vitals.

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 11:39 PM
cannons work good at taking off wings in a high angle diving pass. and it's very satisfying to watch the plane tumble away.

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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 11:59 PM
I never open fire until 150m, usually 100m. 150m might be enough if I have trouble catching the bandit (like a fast fighter) and I'm in a hurry like if it is shooting my pal. Be careful thou if you are not familiar to shoot this close (some real aces opened fire at 50m!) or you collide easily.

About bombers. Like with every enemy, shoot only when you know you hit (thats close), even with rockets. Engines are good targets and fuel tanks as well. Different bombers can have little different soft spots (like with SB-2 target the engines - they will catch fire easily). Il-2 it is radiator or wing roots (easier to hit than radiator). You can search for soft spots easily in quick mission builder.

If you come slow and straight behind (especially above) you are often an easy target for the rear gunners (a very bad idea against Pe-8 in v1.0). I noticed that if I come 45 degrees behind and fast the gunners usually miss. After the pass I come from the other side and so on (fly zig-zag along the bombers course). I never have to make 360deg turn. This works if there are relatively few escort fighters. Some bombers doesn't have a belly gunner (like Li-2 or Ju-52), then you should attack rear and below.

Also if you see yellow flames coming out of the bomber (usually wing or an engine), it is already doomed. Then stop shooting, as you just waste ammo. I have never seen yellow flames without sooner or later seeing an explosion (you friendlies might still continue shooting, but they are stupid). It is much to better to make an engine catch fire than to shoot it off completely (He-111 etc can fly alright with 1 engine).

This way I once shot down all 6 Ju-88s and a Bf109 in LaGG-3 when I had rockets (realistic gunnery, limited ammo etc. of course).

Anyway different people like to use different tactics and you just cannot say this or that is right.

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 02:05 AM
Krupinky becamed famous for shooting from 10m , but he was a nutcase, so...
Watch out for He111, if you use mg's or shoot on the wings or fusselage, You're wasting time and ammo, and it's even harder against a TB-3.
In the case of fighters they wil usualy enter a deadly spin if they catch fire, so there ain't much trouble after.
The Ju88 will crack one wing easely if you dive from above and and fire on one of the wings, they will lose it veryu soon.
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