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Stillzero
10-28-2007, 06:53 PM
Assassins Creed is going to be a great game, it's already sure that it's going to be a triple A quality game and that it's going to sell really good.
But what bothers me is that it's never ever going to outsell that "run of the mill" shooter that's more populair then god at the moment.
Yes i'm talking about Halo 3.
It bothers me that a superior game like Assassins Creed will never be able to outsell a game like Halo 3 seeing as Halo 3 has Microsoft at every game journalist stabbing needles of dopamine into their spinal collum every hour or so.
It makes me wonder how shallow the market has become. Games like Halo 3, Pokemon 200, Fifa08 and "The Sims 2: Aren't you tired of this game yet ?" are dominating the market.
I really hope that Assassins Creed can produce the kind of winnings that Halo 3 is doing so that we'll see more quality titles like it.
Because unlike Bioshock, Assassins Creed will decent from heaven in a silver charigde leading us to the promised land.
Just had to lay my egg here, with you guys lol

sweetlou280
10-28-2007, 06:57 PM
It won't outsell Halo 3. Sadly people like games that everyone else likes...so that makes Halo 3 the best game ever (its not). Its just any idiot with 2 thumbs can pick up the game and play it decently within 5 minutes, there is no thinking involved just guns and explosions. AC is...cilivized only for the upperclass gamers like us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif But once people start talking about it and commercials come out the sales will pick up. I can promise you that AC will have a TERRIBLE first week since the only people who will buy it will be the numbered few on these forums.

b-busher
10-28-2007, 06:59 PM
I know what your saying, but if this game delivers (which the people who have played it said it does) then for assassins creed 2 and 3 the hype will be incredible believe me the first game will be popular but it wont beat titles like that because their well established, but just like halo 1 the hype will get bigger and bigger as the sequels come out and the sales will destroy these games.

princeofyo
10-28-2007, 07:00 PM
It could outsale Halo 3. It is on both 360, PS3 and PC, while Halo 3 is only on 360.

DeadCorpseAC
10-28-2007, 07:02 PM
BioShock > Halo 3.
But it sold less than Halo 3. (I'm talking about shooters)
This is just one more example of a game that sold/sell more than other that is only "good".

sweetlou280
10-28-2007, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by princeofyo:
It could outsale Halo 3. It is on both 360, PS3 and PC, while Halo 3 is only on 360.
No one owns PS3...Halo 3 had legendary sales, I mean it outsold most games opening day....it won't outsell even though AC will be SUCH A BETTER GAME.

MrMoo333
10-28-2007, 07:04 PM
Nah, there'll be a lot more sales, but still not as much as Halo 3... hehe yeah, everyone I know with a 360 owns Halo 3, I played it at a friends house and had to give the controller to my other friend because I was too bored... Anywhooo, back to my point.

There will probobly be about as many sales in scale (because of how many more gamers there are now) as Halo 1

Then AC 2 and three will follow in the Halos footsteps except for the fact that it will be fun each time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

As I said some other time: Halo1 was a revolution to gaming, and so is AC. but they both must get recognized at a pace http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DeadCorpseAC
10-28-2007, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by MrMoo333:
Nah, there'll be a lot more sales, but still not as much as Halo 3... hehe yeah, everyone I know with a 360 owns Halo 3, I played it at a friends house and had to give the controller to my other friend because I was too bored... Anywhooo, back to my point.

There will probobly be about as many sales in scale (because of how many more gamers there are now) as Halo 1

Then AC 2 and three will follow in the Halos footsteps except for the fact that it will be fun each time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

As I said some other time: Halo1 was a revolution to gaming, and so is AC. but they both must get recognized at a pace http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
I have a 360 but I don't have Halo 3. I just played it at my friend's 360. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

MrMoo333
10-28-2007, 07:11 PM
Cheaper that way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif hehe

DeadCorpseAC
10-28-2007, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by MrMoo333:
Cheaper that way http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif hehe
True. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

LFox
10-28-2007, 07:31 PM
Its sad but new games from companies that aren't known for having sold one of the top of the top games never sell that well. I STILL don't get the freakish halo love people have, yeah its a good game and i've laughed at the comments of the enemies plenty of times. But jeez its only a 1st person shooter. How on earth do you get so much gameplay out of that? If it's multiplayer well ANY 1st person shooter has that anyway.

Bioshock was a fantastic game, i haven't played it as much as i hoped i would but for the storyline oh wow it was totally and utterly worth the money i paid for it. It's just a shame it isn't even bigger known than it is.

Assassins creed i think is gonna rank right up there with the GTA's in terms of hours to play. Sales will no doubt be slow on the start but they'll pick up over time especially when people start giving out insane numbers for how many hours of gameplay they've gotten out of it.

It still amazes me that i would probably never would have looked at assassins creed if someone hadn't made the armor as a mod for TES Oblivion. After seeing the cool armor i checked the game out to see what all the rav was about in the thread and i was pretty amazed at what the game was. As for bioshock i heard about it from a friend, if i hadn't i probably never would have glanced at it.

CheZeDip1337
10-28-2007, 08:04 PM
lol sounds like the OP is a fan of the game reviewer Yahtzee

WeWantEasy
10-28-2007, 08:26 PM
^^ bioshock not well known? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Barnstormer
10-28-2007, 08:44 PM
I don't know why you can't love both? I love Halo 3 and I know I'm gonna love AC.

Wamp_Rat
10-28-2007, 09:40 PM
I agree Halo 3 is nothing more than Halo 2 with new weapon skins and a few extra sounds.

As far as Assassins Creed, perhaps the first one of this series will not out sell Halo 3, but have no fear. Games like Assassins Creed and Gears of War which revolutionize gaming via taking a new approach will in time surpass the "Halo 3's" of the world.

The proof of that will be the second Gears of War will outsell Halo 3, just as the second Assassins Creed will.

sweetlou280
10-28-2007, 09:58 PM
As much I as love AC, and I am ADDICTED to the game and i haven't even played it yet. The second one will not outsell Halo 3. Nothing will outsell Halo 3 except for Halo 4. Its the sad truth. Halo 3 sells so much because it has the word "Halo" in it. Assassins creed will most likely follow the same path as Rainbow 6. Its a great game (Vegas is the best Xbox Live game ever) but there just are too many devoted Halo fans to make it surpass Halo.
Don't get me wrong I am not dissing AC in any way shape or form, but it just can't (economically) stand up against a world wide default video game like Halo. Why do you think Bioshock got forgotten? Because Halo were already running commercials by the time Bioshock was coming out. AC will do better then Bioshock cause ppl are starting to get their heads above Halo's flood waters.

SilentAce07
10-28-2007, 10:06 PM
Im actually happy someone other than me realized that the OP just basically directly quoted Yahtzee on several occasions in that one post.

Your point is true though, but wording is completely taken from Yahtzee.

Photus
10-28-2007, 10:57 PM
The fact is: Halo is a game idiots can play.

SixWon85
10-28-2007, 11:22 PM
Halo 3 is lame because Bungie makes it and they are idiots. I play it though, and within 30 minutes I'm some how getting pissed at it because it can be stupid at times. Once AC is out, no more Halo 3. AC will have my complete attention.

eliteassassin69
10-28-2007, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by sweetlou280:
It won't outsell Halo 3. Sadly people like games that everyone else likes...so that makes Halo 3 the best game ever (its not). Its just any idiot with 2 thumbs can pick up the game and play it decently within 5 minutes, there is no thinking involved just guns and explosions. AC is...cilivized only for the upperclass gamers like us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif But once people start talking about it and commercials come out the sales will pick up. I can promise you that AC will have a TERRIBLE first week since the only people who will buy it will be the numbered few on these forums.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif go upperclass gamers!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BellumetPax
10-28-2007, 11:54 PM
AC 2 genuinly does have a chance at beating halo in sales. This is my crazy theory. Halo has a few interesting titles coming up, they just released halo 3, but they also have halo wars, a halo movie, and the new halo comic book among other things. With so much coming out, some of it is going to suck. You can only capitalize on one thing for so long. Halo will lose its lackluster and people will stop buy and caring about it. Other games will come out, and other games will surpass halo in sales.

sweetlou280
10-29-2007, 12:02 AM
Your forgetting Halo 4...sorry to everyone who hasn't beat the game yet. But Master Chief lives so there is gonna be a 4th one.

AirRon_2K7
10-29-2007, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by Stillzero:
Assassins Creed is going to be a great game, it's already sure that it's going to be a triple A quality game and that it's going to sell really good.
But what bothers me is that it's never ever going to outsell that "run of the mill" shooter that's more populair then god at the moment.
Yes i'm talking about Halo 3.
It bothers me that a superior game like Assassins Creed will never be able to outsell a game like Halo 3 seeing as Halo 3 has Microsoft at every game journalist stabbing needles of dopamine into their spinal collum every hour or so.
It makes me wonder how shallow the market has become. Games like Halo 3, Pokemon 200, Fifa08 and "The Sims 2: Aren't you tired of this game yet ?" are dominating the market.
I really hope that Assassins Creed can produce the kind of winnings that Halo 3 is doing so that we'll see more quality titles like it.
Because unlike Bioshock, Assassins Creed will decent from heaven in a silver charigde leading us to the promised land.
Just had to lay my egg here, with you guys lol

Nice Yahtzee quoting there. did the marine AI crash into a rock, while the enemy tank leisurly blew you too narnia as well?

It probably won't sell as much as H3 simply because 360 owners have been tossing each other off with glee for this next installment

Sorry, end yahtzee references [/yahtzee]

EDIT: Dude, if HALO is a trilogy, then there will NOT be a forth one. If the rule was: If you live at the end of a game, there will be a sequal. Then the planet would be swamped with games with cheesy, romantic-esque endings...

Robbinho1992
10-29-2007, 01:10 AM
Who ever said in this thread that no1 owns a PS3 you'd be very wrong...I own a PS3, and so do many other people.

EDIT: ALthough i also own a Xbox so im cool either way.

Stillzero
10-29-2007, 01:40 AM
Yup shame is on me for quoting yathzee twice indeed. I've recieved my just punishment already, bad karma as they say right ?
Anyways i myself will be doing everything i can to make sure Assassins Creed will surpass if not sell equally to Halo 3.
I'll certainly be crushed if it ends up like Bioshock and Bluedragon, you know those 2 games that where of great quality but ended up somewhere in the back shelf of a store because we had to promote and sell Halo 3.
And i know this game has to build up a bigger fanbase by it being a trilogy but screw that, it deserves way more credit then that ! If anyone who owns a console buys any other game then Assassins Creed this November (with the exception of Mass Effect) i'll make you lick the *** of a heroine ******, wich everyone knows is suicide.

yehonatan.roth
10-29-2007, 06:11 AM
i love the frase "just had to lay my egg here" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

and i totaly agree with you, every word... well, maby not about the egg thing that's kinda sick to do in the middle of the forum (Just kidding...)

b-busher
10-29-2007, 06:20 AM
I think maybe it could equal halo 3. Shops here in the uk are making a big deal(Their is alot of boxes and posters all over the place) about its release maybe even more than they did for halo 3.And its out for ps3 and pc too.

som3tin
10-29-2007, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by princeofyo:
It could outsale Halo 3. It is on both 360, PS3 and PC, while Halo 3 is only on 360.
so true

dirtybird21
10-30-2007, 12:21 AM
AC won't outsell halo, But AC WILL be a better game. But halo isn't good because it does something amazing, Halo is good because it is basically the building blocks of a FPS, It has all the normal elements, It's easy 2 get into, And it's fun, Now that might make it seem like it's just another boring game, But halo basically symbolizes the FPS, Most other shooters are just Halo with different added features, It's simple, But fun. The reason it sells so well is it's basically a space filler, Nobody is going 2 spend 2 much time with it but it's going 2 get alot of sales because it's one of the most balanced games out there, Like almost everyone has a microwave, It isn't new or good at anything inpaticular (accept popcorn) but it's sort of in between everything.... AC isn't REALLY comparable 2 anything. It's sandbox game, But theres alot more 2 it than that, Almost EVERYTHING AC does is new in some way. I think it will be the best game for a LONG time.


See, Halo is a sort of flat game that atleast slightly appeals 2 almost everyone, AC is kind of a special intrest game, If you didn't already want it you probably will never get into it.

Legolas00198
10-30-2007, 02:45 AM
Originally posted by MrMoo333:
Nah, there'll be a lot more sales, but still not as much as Halo 3... hehe yeah, everyone I know with a 360 owns Halo 3, I played it at a friends house and had to give the controller to my other friend because I was too bored... Anywhooo, back to my point.

There will probobly be about as many sales in scale (because of how many more gamers there are now) as Halo 1

Then AC 2 and three will follow in the Halos footsteps except for the fact that it will be fun each time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

As I said some other time: Halo1 was a revolution to gaming, and so is AC. but they both must get recognized at a pace http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Yeah, it will take time for AC to get known, as it took time for Halo 1 to get known by AC2 and 3 it should easily sell out the Halos.

avsrule247
10-30-2007, 04:58 AM
We shouldn't be the ones worried about how much the game will sell. We just need to play it. Ubi should be concerned about the sales.

Stillzero
10-30-2007, 05:55 AM
It's not the commercial aspect of this that concerns me, it's the fact that an average game can outsell a game with superior content.

b-busher
10-30-2007, 07:18 AM
Originally posted by Stillzero:
It's not the commercial aspect of this that concerns me, it's the fact that an average game can outsell a game with superior content.

AC will sell well better than most games but AC 2 and 3 will easily be top sellers.

BTOG46
10-30-2007, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by avsrule247:
We shouldn't be the ones worried about how much the game will sell. We just need to play it. Ubi should be concerned about the sales.
You should be, if the sales aren't good enough, there might be no further games to make it a trilogy, how would you feel if that happened? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif

KlNDRED
10-30-2007, 07:43 AM
They need more publicities

avsrule247
10-30-2007, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by BTOG46:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by avsrule247:
We shouldn't be the ones worried about how much the game will sell. We just need to play it. Ubi should be concerned about the sales.
You should be, if the sales aren't good enough, there might be no further games to make it a trilogy, how would you feel if that happened? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sadeyes.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There will be enough sales you are just exaggerating too much now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

ScytheOfGrim
10-30-2007, 08:35 AM
But he didn't say that there won't be enough sales.

He said that if we didn't care about how much AC made, then there might not be a sequel. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif
So it is imortant to us how much AC makes.

membernametaken
10-30-2007, 08:58 AM
Whether you like Halo 3 or not, you have to thank it for helping keep videogames on the map and cementing their place as a legitimate form of entertainment, with more potential for sales than movies, today.

danny.b87
10-30-2007, 09:17 AM
well why woudnt it outsell halo

every game starts on the bottom of a ladder so did halo... halo wasnt on top right away.

its the same with AC it wil start on the bottom of a ladder...

after awhile we will see what game will be on top. every game has to proof itself

BTOG46
10-30-2007, 11:40 AM
A lot of games like Halo 3 sell vast amounts on release and then die away, with only a small number of sales after.
A good game can actually outsell them if it's got lasting appeal and continues to sell over time.
Hell! even a low key, limited appeal game like the Settlers series has sold millions over the years, over 5 million by 2005, and there have been 3 new releases since then so it's sold a lot more since those sales figures were published.
If Assassins Creed proves as popular as the Prince of Persia series, it should do very well in terms of long term sales. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

jimbo96710
10-30-2007, 11:45 AM
Personally halo 3 was really dissapointing, it was extremely overhyped and was given way too much credit for an overused trademark. and by the sound of it theyre making another one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/disagree.gif

Then again this is just my opinion.

DeadCorpseAC
10-30-2007, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Stillzero:
It's not the commercial aspect of this that concerns me, it's the fact that an average game can outsell a game with superior content.
This really sux. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

jimbo96710
10-30-2007, 12:13 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

MiniAssasin
10-30-2007, 12:15 PM
ok i read most of this thread and have sumarised and concluded from it

summary : i am really bothered about assasins creed a good game not bein as popular as halo3 another fps

conclusions: why do you care who cares, you'l own the game they'l make more

BTOG46
10-30-2007, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by MiniAssasin:
ok i read most of this thread and have sumarised and concluded from it

summary : i am really bothered about assasins creed a good game not bein as popular as halo3 another fps

conclusions: why do you care who cares, you'l own the game they'l make more
Ok, I read your post, summarised and concluded from it..........
You totally failed to see the whole point of the thread, people are worrried that failing to achieve high sales figures like whichever over hyped FPS game is currently the one to buy, may have an effect on any planned trilogy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

MiniAssasin
10-30-2007, 12:32 PM
doubtful

i own a ton of games that werent popular and they still made sequels

AirRon_2K7
10-30-2007, 12:36 PM
Not doubtful.

In previous interviews, it has been discovered that, if AC 1 does well, they'll consider making a trilogy.

Just because one game does something, doesn't mean that they all do. That is to say
i own a ton of games that werent popular and they still made sequels Just 'cos those games still made sequels, doesn't mean that AC will. It hasn't even been confirmed officially that there will be, so there IS no guarantee.

BTOG46
10-30-2007, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by MiniAssasin:
doubtful

i own a ton of games that werent popular and they still made sequels
lol, doesn't say much for your choice of games. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif (joke)
But seriously, Ubi have already spent a long time and a lot of money on this game, and it's already been reported that a trilogy will be decided by sales figures, Ubi are very much a "bottom line" accounts driven company, at the end of the day it's how much money, for how much cost that they go by.
That's what worries people, and is the main point of all the posts in this thread.

rahul911
10-31-2007, 12:18 AM
It won't outsell the Halo3 in any manner(sigh). But we can hope that it atleast crack into 2mil considering its gonna be on 3 systems. U made a great point
Halo3(good but probably the worst in the series, my opinion)
Sims2-got bored of it within a few weeks
FIFA08-PES RULES!!
the market needs to mature and that is something my friend which is gonna take ages(wii're looking at u)