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KonstantinL100
10-25-2004, 05:30 PM
I know the British RN used Hellcats (or Gannets as they called them) on the European Front because I've read about one pilot that downed several FW-190's & Bf-109's flying them.

But did the Royal Navy use Corsairs on the European Front? And while I'm asking did the US Navy deploy any aircraft on the European front or was it just the Pacific?

KonstantinL100
10-25-2004, 05:30 PM
I know the British RN used Hellcats (or Gannets as they called them) on the European Front because I've read about one pilot that downed several FW-190's & Bf-109's flying them.

But did the Royal Navy use Corsairs on the European Front? And while I'm asking did the US Navy deploy any aircraft on the European front or was it just the Pacific?

Jungmann
10-25-2004, 05:41 PM
Carrier air supported the US landings on the south coast of France in '44, I believe. Operation whatever. No Corsairs. Naval air also supported Operation Torch in '42, the invasion of Tunisia--the Ranger (CV4) and some CVEs with F4Fs and SBDs aboard. Ranger and lots of CVEs served in the North Atlantic, but you may not consider that Europe.

Cheers,

Zyzbot
10-25-2004, 05:51 PM
USN Hellcats were used in France:

€œ€¦The F6F served with distinction in Europe as well. USN Hellcats flew missions over France in support of the Allied landings. During the invasion of southern France (operation Anvil-Dragon), Hellcats flying from the escort carriers Kasaan Bay and Tulagi (VF-71 and VFO-1) performed deep penetration attacks up to 100 miles inside France and flew CAP over the invasion fleet. Five Hellcats were lost to anti-aircraft fire. These same two squadrons also accounted for three Heinkel 111's and three JU-52 transports, shot down over France. They were denied an opportunity to engage German fighters, who fled at their approach. All 6 German aircraft were downed on August 19, 1944, D-Day +4.

The British used the F6F in significant numbers. The majority of these saw their only combat in the Pacific. However, Fleet Air Arm Hellcat I fighters achieved success against the Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine. Royal Navy Hellcat I's (F6F-3) were involved in escorting attacks on Tirpitz from April through August 1944. One of these missions, on May 8, 1944, the Luftwaffe came up to protect the battleship. Some #800 squadron Hellcats from HMS Emperor took on the German fighters and shot down 1 Fw-190 and two Bf-109G fighters. The Hellcats suffered one loss to the Luftwaffe and another to anti-aircraft fire. RN Sub/Lt. B. Richie got the Focke-Wulf and went on to total 6 kills, becoming one of only a few Royal Navy Hellcat aces.€

http://home.att.net/~C.C.Jordan/Grumman.html

Info about Hellcats from VF-74 usedin France:

http://www.cocardes.com/Histoire/a_vf74_page2.php

DangerForward
10-25-2004, 05:57 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KonstantinL100:
I know the British RN used Hellcats (or Gannets as they called them) on the European Front because I've read about one pilot that downed several FW-190's & Bf-109's flying them.

But did the Royal Navy use Corsairs on the European Front? And while I'm asking did the US Navy deploy any aircraft on the European front or was it just the Pacific? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought British Corsairs were high cover during some attacks on the Tirpitz.

Frequent_Flyer
10-25-2004, 09:49 PM
Corsairs, Hellcats, Wildcats and seafires, were all used in 'operation Tungsten' the second attack on the Tirpitz.

Latico
10-25-2004, 10:13 PM
I believe the RN used the Corsairs for carrier Ops before the USN finally excepted them.

Bluedog72
10-25-2004, 11:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Zyzbot:
USN Hellcats were used in France:

€œ€¦ All 6 German aircraft were downed on August 19, 1944, D-Day +4.

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I realise this is a quote from some other source, but that Aug 19 1944 (D Day +4)is laughable.

D Day +4 was June 10 1944, they're only a month and a half out.

Fornixx
10-26-2004, 12:24 AM
Well Blue..... could it be so that the D-day refered to isn't D-day Normandy but D-day Southern France (operation Anvil whatever). There are several d-days you see....

Hurribomber
10-26-2004, 03:32 AM
A good number of Corsairs involved against the Tirpitz.

Tirpitz aircraft (http://www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/miscellaneous/airattackstirpitz.html)

budvar62
10-26-2004, 04:09 AM
Wow - just checked out that site Hurribomber. Definitely makes me feel better! By my mental reckoning that means over 700 aircraft went up againt the Tirpitz before they finally got it. Have only just installed PF last night (not much sleep) but even from FB days, began to wonder if it was ever possible to sink a battleship. Can't remember how many times I've been literally shredded trying to do a torpedo run (in Sturmoviks and he111's) or dive bombers. Now I'm beginning to think maybe Oleg has made it too easy - ulp!