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mistral_73
04-27-2005, 01:57 PM
Hi all,

I've just established my Internet connection at home. So I'm a "newbee" interested and ready to get killed online. I've read that many of you use "Hyperlobby", but it's all that I know. If you have any link to a "how to ..." thread, it's welcome. (I'll also try to find it myself).

See you soon online, if everything works well!

sammy4657
04-27-2005, 02:07 PM
welcome mistral. To play online, you have to install ubi.com. I dont know anything about 'hyperlobbys', and i cant remember wether you download ubi.com from the cd or the internet. Do you have pf standalone, because i think these 'hyperlobbys' are only available with the merged install. Sorry if i wasn't vey helpful! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

ytareh
04-27-2005, 02:15 PM
Forget about any online play via Ubi Soft...Download Hyperlobby and unless you are an experienced flight simmer stick to the easiest (simple settings eg padlock allowed ,external view etc)servers/'rooms'.Even at that expect to have your a** kicked-online can be very hard for beginner!

hotspace
04-27-2005, 02:16 PM
When you installed whatever version of the Game: IL-2 FB/AEP/PF or just PF you should alreay have ubi.com on your Desktop m8 (If you haven't it's on whatever is your Main CD, just Double-Click and Install). As for Hyperlobby here's a Link:

http://hyperfighter.sk/

On the Site it will show you how to Install it etc... I'm not sure if it has a Server for just PF only, but I think it has m8 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Out of both go for Hyperlobby as it's the better of the two http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Hope this help's m8.

Hot Space

Buzzsaw-
04-27-2005, 02:27 PM
Salute

Installing Hyperlobby is a simple procedure. Do it and your online gaming fun will increase manyfold.

mistral_73
04-27-2005, 03:32 PM
Thank you all.

I downloaded the Hyperlobby client (used by all "real" fan boys, as it seemed), installed it, launched it without reading the fine manual, and I managed to connect to a session to the "warclouds" server at the first time.

I was so exited that I crashed at my first take-off attempt, something that never happened since a long time !

I choosed the blue side and flew into another location closer to what looked like the war front, I saw another planes, but the "icons" were all in black, so I couldn't see if they were blue or red, just the name.
They weren't agressive at all, exept one shooting at my six, but I escaped. I didn't see any other "agression"...

What happen if I shoot other planes of my side?
Should I be banned for this?

Thank you again.

9th_Bloodfist
04-27-2005, 03:47 PM
Your forgetting that the one thing you need most importantly to play onine is beer. It doesn't matter what kind, as long as you like it. Have a couple, kick back and enjoy the ride. Oh and it calms your nerves and you actually fly better, and have more fun!

Troll2k
04-27-2005, 03:51 PM
Most if not all server admins (and players) frown upon team killing(shooting a teamate).Usually you will get a warning before a ban.Sometimes it is impossible to avoid.Such as having a teamate spawn right in front of you as you are starting your taxi.Some severs have a team kill kick.

JunkoIfurita
04-27-2005, 04:20 PM
posted Wed April 27 2005 14:32
Thank you all.

I downloaded the Hyperlobby client (used by all "real" fan boys, as it seemed)

I don't know if using Hyperlobby means the difference between the fanboys, whiners and plain old indifferents http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Everyone uses Hyperlobby: if you go onto Ubi.com, you might find up to 10 or 11 players on at any time. You go onto Hyperlobby, and you might find 100-400 players at any given time http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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mistral_73
04-27-2005, 04:22 PM
OK, I gave it another try using 109vsSpitfires(or something like that) and drinking a "full real" beer.

and the most difficult thing is :
To find enemies to fight!

I tried to follow "respectfully" a group of planes of my side, but after a few minutes, they "seem" to fight at each other... something that I can understand, because it's frustrating when you know there are sometimes 50 people on the same map.

So what's your advice to find ennemies?

In fact, I'm more looking at this moment for a server when you can shoot the first plane you see!

strelnik_Sipi
04-28-2005, 07:35 AM
Try some server with easy setings with externals and icons. Go for the hardcore servers only if you are ready http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Warclouds and 109vsSpit are with limited or disabled icons so its hard to identify your target. You will learn it in time.

Try UK-Dedicated for start. A nice srver with icons and plenty of targets.

EnGaurde
04-28-2005, 07:47 AM
i hope you spend the time to get into it mistral. It really is worthwhile.

try to establish boundaries, as in never, ever fight your own team. Just not on.

this can be a bit slow at times, but if you join well populated servers i assure you the trouble is there for the taking. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Use your minimap and read the briefings for headings to the right squares, ie E1 or AB27 where the objectives are. Arm your aircraft accordingly, and set out.

Dont just fly around aimlessly.

Read that briefing and do your job. This way, it wont seem so pointless. Most fighters can carry bombs or rockets, so a little bit of ploughing could be just the ticket until the skirts show up.

dont expect help. Its rare to find coordinated attacks unless everyones talking to each other using teamspeak.

once you cross the border, or get close to their side keep an eye out, someone WILL come looking for you.

then....?

well, game on. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

HotelBushranger
04-28-2005, 07:53 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif In My Opinion (IMO, good to use http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif ), your best best is to play a few months of offline first. Learn to identity all the different aeroplanes before going to a full real server like Spitvs109, which doesn't tell you what it is. A handy thing to use is Icons. You can find it in the Difficulties options. Also have external view on, so you can look at your teamates and enemies. Work's wonders, I flew mostly offline till about a month ago. With my previous flight experience, I was able to hold my own and after a while got a kill. This was on a server with Icons. Most full-real fanboys will preach that full-real is the only way to go, but most of the time I just want to play on a server, have a coupla laughs, which I do, and generally have some fun. A good server is SarahZOOM. A small amount of people which means the Chat Log is always packed. Come by on a weekend to see if I'm there-I'll have my guns ready http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif ...and I give ya a few tips

Cheers and good luck

CAPT_COTTON
04-28-2005, 08:13 AM
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Sounds like you have mreged and go to UBI and get a room and the icons are not so hard to under stand and there are rooms with coxpit on if you want a real feeling and the chat is not hundreds talking and they take time to help just like on this forum and put a beer cooler behind that plane seat and make sure no one gets to shoot that cooler. the most important thing in a game is protect that beer at all cost!also on ubi if after three landings in a row or at 300 points the girls will bring your beer out to you on the runway and help you out of plane http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

EnGaurde
04-28-2005, 08:21 AM
cotton,

do you use a language translator to post your stuff in english?

its just so ....er.... and.... and.... hard to read???

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ImpStarDuece
04-28-2005, 08:33 AM
i have been online for about 4 months after owning the sim for over two years.

I started off in what is termed an 'airquake' server; Trollville2.04, mostly because it was the only thing running LI2 version 2.04 and I didn't have PF yet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif. I have since moved on to servers geared towards more of a 'realistic' environment.

Online you will find a couple of different 'flavours' of game.

"Dogfight" servers are essentially unlimited, free-for-all servers. They can be all-in or team Vs team (Red Vs Blue). The plane set is usually unlimited or only loosely defined and is usually constant. The maps may or may not rotate.

Dogfight servers typically run the 'default' icon settings; Colour, ID, Type and Range all displayed at 6 km. Dogfight servers also primarily run what is known as 'wonder woman view'. Essentially this is 'cockpit off' where you get a floating gunsight and no obstructions. Most run 'full externals' as well, pressing F6 will go to an external view and padlock the nearest opponent for you. There are usually NO objectives, vulching with anything but bombers, bombs or rockets is very highly frowned upon and everyone is there to shoot down the other guy. The most popular at the moment is 334thDedicated, usually running anywhere between 10-30 simmers

"Scripted dogfight" servers have most of the characteristics of standard dogfight servers with a few twists. Firstly they usually have some objectives; bomb this, defend that. Secondly they usually have a more limited or realistic plane set; say a Russia 1942 or a ETO 1944 plane set. Its usually 50/50 if the run cockpit off, most will have externals enabled though. Icons are usually at default, although some run closer in icons, which makes things harder for turners and easier for boomers.

Best example I can think of is UK_Dedicated which runs scripted, objective based maps with a decent rotation but has icons at 2-3 km, cockpit off and a period/ mission limited planeset

"Scripted" servers are similar to "scripted dogfight" servers but go for the extra realism. Most, if not all, will have cockpit on, no padlock and no external views. They are usually objective based; destroy this bridge, those cars, kill this many enemies, defend this patch of real estate. Thought they do sometimes get treated like dogfight servers for the better pilots mostly they revolve (hopefully) around the objective. Usually they will have speed bar and limited icons.

A good example is WarClouds_WF (Western Front). It has cockpit on, no externals, no padlock ect ect. The only concessions to difficulty it makes are icons, speed bar and you icon on the map. It has friendly icons pop up at 1.5-2 km (in black, no colour) and enemy icons pop up somewhere around 750-500m.

The last type of server is the "full switch" server, such as Spitfire vs 109s. These usually have no icons or EXTREEMLY limited icons. Often the speed bar is disabled as are map icons. These servers actually range from dogfight to objective based (most are objective based though) and are populated by some of us (such as myself) who probably find this game more addictive than opium. Be warned, they are fun but probably not the best server to jump into straight away. Finding an emeny to fight can be difficult, you can and will get 'bounced' very easily and many of them have 'death kick' (get killed x times and be banned for Y minutes [no more than 5 usually]). Still, full switch are some of the most competitive rooms out there and they really force you to think and fly right.

There are also co-ops where you run an assigned mission against the AI and other players. These range from fantastic to boring but usually are a higher order of entertainment than the servers, even the dogfight ones. Co-ops usually have plenty of action, good team work, easily identifiable objectives and often some brilliant mission design.


Hope this helps!

mistral_73
04-28-2005, 05:52 PM
Hi all

thank you for your answers.

I'm not exactly a newbee on IL2, I've played offline before... and managed to kill 3 or 4 players tonight on the _79_kk server, my second online attempt : a small map, 5 vs 5, icons shown, no external view, "instant action" once you've taken off AND vulching temptation avoided. Chat was fair, beer was fresh, players were nice (and good pilots!), I had a lot of fun.

So a total success and exactly what I was looking for, at least today. Then why not, try more "sophisticated" servers...

See you soon!

Mistral